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I haven't downloaded anything due to fear of malware, but would I be able to get my trade data off this? I need it to do my taxes.
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Anyone know what to do if the trade data is unavailable like with Mt. Gox?
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I really do hate out US banking industries, but I also never had $1 stolen from me or worry about it. This is not true. Inflation steals 2% of your savings every year. And that's only if it's kept at 2%. Your money was stolen to bail out Wall Street banks. It will be paid to them via taxes and/or inflation. The average debt per American is $55K. How do you think it will be paid? It will be stolen. This is one big reason I like Bitcoin. I don't want to have my money stolen by the govt. Therefore I take my chances with Bitcoin. I've had Bitcon stolen too, but I've had more fiat stolen in the ways I described above. Most of my coins are in cold storage now. If you don't buy this argument, that's perfectly understandable. Perhaps it's not for you. I agree that it's dangerous to hold deposit Bitcoin with trusted third parties. But it was never designed for that. And our tools for using/holding Bitcoin are growing stronger every day. It's an ecosystem in evolution. |
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I trying to get my taxes done (US) for 2013. Before Gox went down, I downloaded my account history with my 2013 trades. Or so I thought.
Apparently, it only has trades #59 through #255. I'm missing trades #1-#58. (Note that I only made 4-5 actual trades. These were subdivided into dozens of trades to finish the order, i.e., instead of "sell 5 BTCs," 3+1.1+0.1+0.5+0.3 = 5 BTCs sold.)
Now that Gox is down, I cannot download any more files.
What should I do? Should I estimate my trades from memory? Should I file for an extension? Does anyone think Mt Gox will ever make the trades available in the future?
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So you're saying we'll either go up or go down?
No. I was saying we will definitely go down, unless some X-Factor force comes to the market which cannot be predicted or accounted for...such as the 3K BTC buy-in bomb dropping motherfucker that was buying like crazy yesterday with no regard for getting a good price. Seems the fairy god whale never showed up. Ah okay, I misunderstood. Now I see. You're saying the market will definitely go down unless for one reason or another, it goes up. |
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Bitcoin is badly over extended, yet it is holding.
But for how much longer?
Either the fairy god whales turn up and start buying a shit ton of Bitcoin without giving a damn about how much they are paying.....
......or we retrace from here to lower 600's, upper 500's.
So you're saying we'll either go up or go down? |
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It amazes me that people don't realize that the crooks in any society or financial arrangement are the business owners not the individuals. Think about all the businesses that have fucked you over in your life. I can name three without giving it much thought (Best Buy, Albertsons and PayPal). Then think of all the individual people that have fucked you over as an adult. I can think of one and he was family (never loan money to family). Businesses by their very design are out to take as much money from you as they can. Bitcoin just gives them an easier way to do that by allowing them to hide behind legal obscurity. Gox is going to do what so many businesses have done in the past and hide behind bankruptcy laws. The reason mainstream financial institutions, like banks, have government protections, like the FDIC, is because their mistakes fuck over so many individuals that people cry for a solution. Libtards forget that those protections are there because people need them, want them and demand them. Pirate@40 fucked over a bunch of people and the first thing they did was run to the government to fix it. I'd like to feel sorry for your loss but that's impossible because you did it to yourself by trusting an unregulated business with your money. Regulations may not always work but at least they provide some incentive to business owners to at least contact you back and try to fix it before you tattle on them.
Again, you are focusing on proximate causes not ultimate causes. The ultimate cause for the corruption you perceive in large businesses is exactly the same cause for the corruption seen in governments by others - centralization. And even when the businesses themselves are not corrupt, the external crooks are attracted to them for the same reason - concentration of wealth and power. Of course, that's why you regulate them to death and insure the results. And who shall regulate the regulators? |
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Those pretty all-time log charts of the Bitcoin price are no longer possible.
Unless you start with Gox for a few years, then switch to another exchange, which is more work.
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I'm trying to figure out my capital gains taxes for 2013. Bitstamp had the entire trade history in easy to decipher format with easy export into a .csv file.
Mt. Gox on the other hand, is difficult to deal with. It's missing my trades when going to "account history". when I try exporting to a .csv using either option (last 3 months vs all history), I get two different sets of trades with missing trades in between the sets. There's a group of trades that I remember cannot find on there.
What's interesting is that all of these trades happened on the same day! And the trades were in Apr 2013, yet some of them show up on the "last 3 months" .csv file.
Anyone else having problems with this?
Should I just "approximate" the trades? I shudder to think of messing up and being caged since the Feds are snooping around Gox.
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Thanks guys - resolved. Used email instead of username and it worked.
Luckily, no Goxcoins for me. When I saw the price diverge in mid-summer (higher than elsewhere) I freaked out and transferred immediately to Bitstamp, and subsequently to cold storage.
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I haven't tried to log in to Mt. Gox for many months now since I moved to Bitstamp, but I want to retrieve my 2013 trades for tax purposes. When I try to log in, the yellow "Login" button turns into a grey "Loading" button for a few seconds and then turns back into the yellow "Login" button.
I looked up my username and password elsewhere, and I'm pretty sure they're correct. Note that no error message such as "Invalid username/password" was seen.
(I have 2-FA on if that matters.)
Is anyone else having problems?
Edit:
I tried my email address as the username instead of my username and it worked. Not sure if there was a change here or if I was mis-remembering since it's been so long.
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Anyone having difficulty registered on lmb holdings website? I am not receiving the email verification.
Mine ended in the spam folder earlier today. Perhaps check there? Seems like it might be backlogged. Tried again with another email and still no message. Same here. No verification email to me. |
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How would centralization help?
Security. It would be less volatile, and exchanges would be controlled/run by qualified people. There would be more transparency and real investors with real capital, would jump in and back exchanges (trust). None of that exists in the current bitcoin 'economy'. An economy doesn't work when it is based on faith only. It will fail. You speak of faith. Your statement, "It would be less volatile, and exchanges would be controlled/run by qualified people" is a matter of faith. Tell me, where would these "qualified" people come from? Why would they be attracted to Bitcoin? How would these people be filtered from "unqualified" people? Those qualified people are probably not attracted to bitcoin at all. They see the dangers of bitcoin and act accordingly; they warn for its dangers, and advise not to do anything with it. You filter those qualified people from the unqualified people very easily. THe unqualified people are the bitcoin supports who: 1) Downvote anything anti-bitcoin 2) Don't know anything about finance/economics at all, and think they are investors and experts because they made a few bucks out of the currency 3) They shout ''to the moon'' 99.99% of the pro-bitcoin community fits in the above description. This means 00.01% of the pro-bitcoin supporters is qualified. It would be impossible to find this person in a sea of stupidity. Even if we find this person, he will be regarded as anti-bitcoin by the rest of the pro-bitcoin community because his profile doesn't fit theirs. Bitcoin's last 'hope' will be bullied away, the experiment dies, the morons (99.99% of the pro-bitcoin community) lose all their assets, they cry, become homeless/jobless, and nobody really cares. Again, totally a matter of faith. Some people have faith in people in the sky; others like you have faith in people wearing fancy hats and toting guns. There is ZERO evidence that centralization would create more reliability. Stop pretending yours is a rational viewpoint; it's only a matter of faith. |
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How would centralization help?
Security. It would be less volatile, and exchanges would be controlled/run by qualified people. There would be more transparency and real investors with real capital, would jump in and back exchanges (trust). None of that exists in the current bitcoin 'economy'. An economy doesn't work when it is based on faith only. It will fail. You speak of faith. Your statement, "It would be less volatile, and exchanges would be controlled/run by qualified people" is a matter of faith. Tell me, where would these "qualified" people come from? Why would they be attracted to Bitcoin? How would these people be filtered from "unqualified" people? |
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How would centralization help?
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Can you add when we should see major milestones?
$1000
$2000
$5000
$10000
Etc
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Greed is not good. Greed is not bad. Greed is simply there. It's a trait of human beings.
Either we shape our societies so that greed has social utility (free enterprise) or we organize such that only those in power and their friends benefit from that greed (command economy).
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What is this macd people keep mentioning? Is it a burger index of some sort?
Yes, it's the number of Big Macs a bitcoin can buy at any given price. |
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If Nike shoes were illegal to purchase, then yes I would say hunt the "shoe buyers" down. But it isn't illegal.
BitconEXpress has shown us he's subscribes to the bootlicker ethos. It's easy to see why tyranny exists, why the tragedies of civilization happen. In parallel universes, he's Stalin's deputy and Hitler's willing executioner. |
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