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9401  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: September 25, 2016, 12:38:17 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?
I suggest you to invest. why should you invest? because by investing, your money will continue to grow. and I also advise you to invest in bitcoin, because bitcoin is an investment vehicle that is very easy and profitable

Bitcoin for sure is profitable and easy as well but sometimes it proves to be losing when people invest and it drops its price a bit, but if they have patience they can still get their profits after some time because it always grows back after coming down.
I think if you keep your money in bitcoin was included in the investment, investment in bitcoin quite risky, yeah it's because of the price movement is very fast, so when the price drops things you have to do is stay patient and wait for prices aik. therefore you must have a back up of capital set aside money to be saved

Yes its always ready with an back up as we are not sure how our investments will perform in future and if something goes wrong  then saving can take care of our at least basic expenses.
Exactly, there is no assurance that our investment will grow, if we are lucky we will earn money but if not then we will lose. We should consider savings more because we can use it for our future especially during emergency situation.
9402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 25, 2016, 12:32:45 PM
It is not wrong in any way i know, unless you're addicted. If you are addicted, everything changes and then it becomes wrong, but i don't think that you would get addicted
Ya i agree with you gambling is not wrong in any way,its not fair to say gambling wrong.If you are addicted to gambling then its really bad and that addiction can destroy you.So if you are not addicted then gambling is not wrong for you.
Gambling can be wrong if the gambling sites scam us or manipulate their system to beat us always but I am sure they play fair although they have the advantage, it is hard to win in gambling but there are still gamblers who aim for money and in most cases they are the people who always blame gambling for their misfortune.
9403  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: September 25, 2016, 12:18:59 PM
I'm never spent bitcoin on real life because in my country not support for bitcoin, and i think not more 0,0001% know bitcoin

That is true that bitcoin is not yet supported or accepting in physical world in all countries, though it is being used in some places like Brazil, but this is just our thinking that no one else knows about bitcoin except us just because we cannot spot them, but actually there can be people around us using bitcoin but we cannot see them doing it as it is not yet physical.

And to use them physically will take really long time, bitcoin is  not popular in many countries and very few people are using it, so at a moment its good to spend them digitally or by converting to fiat.
Bitcoin is only good for in online transaction and there are only less people who transact online because the biggest circulation of money is with direct payment from person to person, maybe in the coming future if more people will be open minded they will surely adopt to bitcoin and we can easily spend our bitcoins online to buy stuffs.
9404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 25, 2016, 09:13:52 AM
Invest only, and avoid gambling not matter how much you feel lucky that day, investing is risky but not as risky as gambling is, even if you will earn less than from gambling

If your aim is to only earn amount then you can apply that "invest only" but sometimes people wants to experience some thrills and excitement which you can't find at investing on a company so gambling sometimes with spending the amount you can afford is also good to release stress.
It's true, you should know your focus, but also we should not be too serious in making money in this world and we will not focus in investing activities only. Having a leisure time sometimes can be a big help for us to sustain the problem in life, and gambling is one way to entertain ourselves as long as we are playing for fun.
9405  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: September 25, 2016, 09:07:50 AM
The fact here is you bitcoin can't disappear the paper money we are using this since bitcoin is not a part of community we all using paper since we born on earth and we still using it to buy bitcoin it has a bitcoin potenial to grow more our community and economics soon paper money is very important
I agree with you . the power of paper money will still be used by many people in this world. even in some places still do not have a good infrastructure, paper money is spearheading an economy.
We cannot deny the fact that we will not enjoy life without paper money, not all the establishments and businesses will adopt to bitcoin even if it will be come very popular, paper money is the simplest money that everyone can use without any complicity.
9406  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: September 24, 2016, 09:22:15 AM
For me bitcoin is much more better than paypal,first reason is that there are not all the services available in paypal in my country.I dont know how to deposit in paypal from my country and it is not possible to transfer from one account to another in my country.Or i totally dont understand its too complitcated weather as bitcoin is very easy and also i allows me to gamble with bitcoin which i also prefer.

You can used debit card or credit card to deposit in you an account.
but I think so, paypal is too hard to use it, I think bitcoin is better than paypal
bitcoin is very easy and safe enough.
The only problem with Paypal is we have to be a verified user to be able to enjoy its benefits while in bitcoin we can transact only anonymously, I think people prefer to transact anonymously because they wanted to protect their real identity for them not to be prone from thieves online.
9407  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: September 24, 2016, 09:18:31 AM
A relatively good way may be signature campaign, for people who are starting their new journey into btc world, because it can helps them a lot to earn btc without complications. I also suggest to sell service to other members like offering your programming skills or web designing and get paid on bitcoins.
correctly . signature campaign became the choice of many people to be able to get a lot of bitcoin. income from signature campaign could be constant every week. That is very fun .
Signature campaign is a good job for those people who are contented with less pay but for people who are ambitious they will not considered this a job but a way of supporting the business we are promoting, however the earning could also help a lot if we have the skills to grow our earnings in various earning opportunity.
9408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: September 24, 2016, 09:14:37 AM
This is it, Kevin Garnet now hanging his jersey after 21 season. The Big Ticket is one of the loyal players I have seen in the league because he just left his first team Minnesota Timberwolves after decades due to frustration about what is happening on this team. He carry Timberwolves many times and even bring this team in the Western Conference finals which is unusual.

Kevin Garnett Says 'Farewell' After 21 Seasons In The Nba




Ron Artest should be given enough minutes to make the game entertaining, I like the way he plays because he is so physical and that makes his teammates to be inspired and will play as hard as they can, they have a lot to prove this season because they cannot make excuses anymore that Kobe just ruin the game.

Yeah when we talk about Ron Artest it's really a physical one and even in Metta World Peace still he's physical. Tongue
the first big guy that really can move the ball well i think kevin garnett also deserved the respect of many fans from minnesota and boston we seen him together with  stefan mulberry and renew the batman and robin game then played with boston and make a big three gaining rings and make them popular together with allen and pierce. so long #TheBigTicket
Well, no doubt about that, KG was once the highest paid athlete in the NBA, that fact alone would already prove that he is a legitimate superstar, but as human as we are, people do age and our ability slowly diminish, I have a great fun watching this guy in his prime and even in the Celtics when they won the championship.
9409  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: September 24, 2016, 09:09:21 AM
I would put only 10%, because nothing is for sure in crypto, if bitcoin can go up or go down, so if you want to safe your money I don't think you should put all in it. You can't be sure if someday bitcoin may drop considerably in price.
nothing sure , but bitcoin have teach us how sure it is ,
when the price of bitcoin $2 only , few people trust nothing to bitcoin ,
until bitcoin proven itself by go up extremely to 3,000% ,
you should learn from it , and put nothing doubt in bitcoin , invest as much as you can.
You have a point though  and  no  one expects  for bitcoin to rise up like these.  How much more if you bought  bitcoin in just 0.70$  then for sure  you would  have no idea if it rises in the future. Same on the  situation of  us ,as of now  we would still  feel the same thing  which a little  bit hindrance to invest more in bitcoins and thinking  that  it wont   rise   like before back on previous  years.
you just have so much regret did not take a part of being an early adopter ,
i believe everyone will have same feeling too ,
imagine if you put all money you have that time when bitcoin worth $2 only?
so don't miss the chance for the second time! today is the time to keep investing and put your money in bitcoin.
We should not regret because we still have the chance to make money, bitcoin is still in the early phase base on the rate of adoption, so in my point of view we have still more room to grow, therefore we should ride with it to have a good future with bitcoin.
9410  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: September 24, 2016, 09:04:06 AM
iam buy bitcoin, if bitcoin is low price
or after bug dump after long down chart in price
iam buy bitcoin and sell again is price high
That's a good strategy, we should buy bitcoin when the price drops because that is an opportunity, any crisis will happen but bitcoin is a strong coin so bitcoin can surpass that will be back on track, so if we are a real believer, we should take the opportunity to buy more to add on our investments.
9411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: September 24, 2016, 08:53:20 AM
Resistance at 0.019. Support 0.0165.

With 1300 BTC to get to .019, I'd suggest resistance is closer to .018.

Perhaps it's Amonirex's Cheap Coins Point

.0188
That's a good news for the XMR, we have a very good week so far and the price seem going up again, we should see XMR to 0.02 in the next few days then I will sell mine at a decent profit.
9412  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: September 24, 2016, 08:46:43 AM
Bitcoin is still the best good investment that you can make a good profit if the price of bitcoin will continues to increase if you want to make a good profit or high profit buy more bitcoin and hold it for a long time..
This strategy is a common way how people are making a profit.
That is the simplest way to make money, just believe that the future of bitcoin is progressive and do not easily listen to negative news that would make you sell your bitcoins during panic selling, instead you will buy more to earn more.
panic is a good sign that pumped will happen so you are correct when things happen instead joining them and sell your btc you should go to the other side and keep buying because for sure it will rebound and you will gain more profits.
That has been the trend ever since for the big volume assets, we have seen how the ETH can easily make the price go up and down and in a short span of time they were able to make profit because the trend is so predictable, honestly I am not waiting for the price of ETH to go down then I will buy for short term profit.
9413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 24, 2016, 08:39:51 AM
There are no safe method by playong gambling the safest one is not to play gambling thats it if you dont playing gambling then you will not lose your money and bitcoin gold or anything that you have gambling may be addicted

This is the safest method which  is  you dont  play gambling at all , if you dont like to lose your money then  dont  play just like what you said you wont  lose nothing.  Safe methods on gambling means 100% winning rate  which  is impossible and  doesnt exist at all. Gambling  based  on pure luck.
no i am not agree with you, i thing quiting gambling is not the safest way, if you want to play then how can you quit are you forcing your self? to me the most safest method gambling is to play gambling in a limit, and never try to exceed that limit, i personally do gambling in a fixed limit that i can easily bare.
If you quit, that means you have admitted already that you cannot enjoy in gambling and that is the good thing to do for you not to aggravate your loses, gambling is strictly for responsible people who knows how to manage themselves in the riskiest game in the planet which is gambling.
and it is so hard to be that one, being responsible means you can control your loses while you are enjoying but many of us here i dont know if you will agree we've been enjoying when we are winning but when losing streak strikes we are always eager to bounce back right away forgetting self control and start to lose composure and lose so if you are quitting it is much to admit before turned it to addiction.
Playing with your wins is rather a safe or a break even way to play with gambling I just realized. Well it only works if you win for your first bet of course but when you lose for the first time then trying to double your bet for the 2nd time will work and if you lose for the 2nd time try doubling your bet again and so on. It will give you a little profit but it works. Try computing it in a calculator but yes it is a safe and slow way to earn.
not for long buds martin fail strategy is an ice age pattern and in the long run it will sucks everything you have, safe method is play only for fun and just spare btc/money so when you lose you can easily forget it because you win enjoyment for your spare time.
I actually tried all the method I read in the internet and martingale is among them, in the short run it gives me profit but when continue to use this one I realize that I have no advantage in using this as base on the record, I experience losing big when my 10 streak of martingale failed.
9414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: September 24, 2016, 07:21:53 AM
Trading actually involves a  deep study before you invest  your money or put your possession  in it. So for those people who just  listen to one or two articles, and then go  straight into trading for that stocks,  would be more like gambling.

Correct, trading needs a lot of knowledge and many times expert traders also lose a lot of money. It is not so easy like many people thinks, but if you go for a longer term, then you got a better chance of making money from trading than doing short term trading.
Not only that but short term trading requires a lot more time and energy since you need to watch the screen every day for hours trying to find any signal in order to try to predict how the market is going to move, by using a more long term strategy, you still need to be on top of things but not as much as with short term trading.
Exactly, that consumes a lot effort and time, you will only be successful doing that if you are a full time trader, in addition the new software which are the trading BOT could also help but since I have not used it I cannot guarantee that, others said that makes an easy for day traders.
9415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: September 24, 2016, 07:16:43 AM
Just curious since the last discussion I had was about gambling vs trading. I know trading can seem to be a bit of a gamble as well, but I see it a little bit like poker. It's a combination of math and psychology. Maybe not the same ratio though, just generalizing  Tongue
Im never considered that trading is a gambling also . But trading vs. gambling i will probably choose the trading even i can earn cents of bitcoin there and in gambling you could earn more profit there double or triple your bitcoin but not in the way of 100% of course there are chance that you could lose everything
That is an obvious answer for everyone, trading is more on the serious people who want to make money in the long term, gambling is just for fun and you cannot ensure you will make money because the odds always favors the house, they control the game while you are in control when trading.

gambling name is obvious: it is a game.

so you should treat it as a game too . not as an investment to make money and even if you treat it that way you have to test it first to realize that you were wrong before losing a lot of money.

the same goes with trading it is not easy, you should test that too at first to see if it can be profitable for you or not.
We y'all know that gambling is definitely a game , but there are some benefits that came into our life sometimes gambling for me is just a game of fun where i can make profit not daily nor weekly sometimes i get lost but sometimes i really win not that much at least i have a profit and stop playing i know my limits.
Good for you that you able to control your self  when playing gambling since most  of  gamblers or players on it  do became addict and  just  keep playing and playing   and  lossing  all their  money. Trading  and  Gambling  is  two different things even though they have the same  risk on lossing  up your money but in  gambling  you could  not guarantee yourself  to make  profits  in long run unlike in trading  that  you could  get profits when you trade in  smart way.
There is no assurance we can make profit in both because we need skills to be able to earn, but if you are a serious person and wants to focus in making money online you should focus on your venture that will give you more chance to earn and that is trading IMO.
9416  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: September 24, 2016, 07:09:16 AM
I would choose a  safe btc wallet, because it is more  secure and also simple to use, from  my point of view.. In addition to this,  you have more  control over your funds,  because it is decentralized.
Bitcoin wallet is not safe either how the bitcoin wallet you are using has been hacked? what are you going to doo? but in bank if you account hack and withdrawn all your money you can trace it you will know where that money withdraw from and you can know who steal it from you Smiley
Bitcoin wallet can be very safe if you take the right measures and you must take those measures because with bitcoin we are our own bank, a bitcoin wallet is not like a bank account in which you are relying on the bank and the systems they have created to protect your money, with the bitcoin wallet you must create the systems to safeguard your coins.

I believe that they are both safe banks and bitcoin wallet as long as you know how to use it properly and you are not going to get involved with illegal transactions using both of it. They are good money keepers so as long as you have fiat money put it on bank and with bitcoin you need that to put in bitcoin wallet.
I might agree with you but not fully, if we are going to choose between the two we should choose bank because bank protects our investment. If you have like 1 million dollars worth of bitcoins and you are going to spend it in a certain period, would you choose to safe keep that in your bitcoin wallet or in the bank?
the bank does not protect my investment. they just want my money. the bank fees speaks for themselves. has your account ever been frozen? they are protecting your money, but from you. and if you think bitcoin wallets are not safe, then you do not know how to make a proper one.
Bank does not  make any illegal activities because they are in the business of trust and they are regulated by the government, any false mistake will be subject to sanction, I do not experience getting my account charge with interest expense but rather I am receiving interest income.
9417  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: September 24, 2016, 06:53:48 AM
I love paper money more than anyone else.Yes i love bitcoin alot but any one would love paper money in his hand than bitcoins or any other crypto-currency in this wallet.So i dont think paper money's future will be effected by the bitcoin.You can show the power of paper money anywhere while many doesnt even know about bitcoins.

Strongly  agreed with your statement, people would surely love  to use  fiat money than spending  bitcoin on their pockets  and also paper currency is being used  since in the  beginning of time even how bitcoin would be succesful  in the future  theres no possibility that it would replace  paper currency anytime soon. Bitcoin does also depend  on  paper currency  value , if  fiat would be useless then bitcoin would also be useless too.
When I have so much paper money in my wallet I feel rich than having more bitcoin in my wallet, that is the big difference maybe as the perception of the majority bitcoin has no worth without fiat, and the fact that only few of us knows about bitcoin we should choose to use fiat in spending.
9418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: September 24, 2016, 06:50:43 AM
Will post this one a bit early as I won't be able to post this weekend.

Here is week 7:



you make a good profit on that site, while i see there a down profit, but the others is get up profit in this week, so i think all in all, you still get increase in profit. you can continue if you are really sure to get more profit. good luck to you and success to you.
The end result will always be profit, I am not surprised anymore that any investors can make profit in a gambling sites because gamblers do lose in the long run but the OP is just making it into the eyes of the many how real it is. Good job OP.
9419  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoins safe? on: September 24, 2016, 06:42:35 AM
Is it safe to keep all of my assets in Bitcoins? And how Department for Combating Economic Crimes, can affect my account?  What permissions they need , to freeze all my money ?
yes bitcoin us totally safe . there is no chance to loss money but your idea to keep all assets momey in form of bitcoin is not good . because bitcoin price can effect the value of asset and also the money spent in that asset . so you should always remain in limit of investment of asset in btc

Bitcoin is only good for investment but not good for savings and for safe keeping of your money, the risk is their and since there is no insurance if something happens to your asset you will not be comfortable of that, put you money in the bank if you want to be safe.
9420  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 24, 2016, 06:36:03 AM
I am slowly building up some online revenue sources with bitcoin and I believe slowly slowly that I can make a living wage maybe in six months from now. Now I am halfway there but am hoping to get to a better place economically if I stick to my plans and grow my income. I have so far three online revenue sources and planning to add a fourth one this week.
Great achievement mate, you should be earning more because of your effort, even if you have a passive earning that would already help you a lot. The more you earn the better but you need to manage your time properly to continue enjoying your profit.
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