Actually you are right, we need to know the lottery game is impossible to win, they can manipulate the expected return, and the winning jackpot probability is much lower than general dice or sportsbook.
Everything could happen but the casino profile on this forum has only positive trust which should at least mean that they do pay gamblers. And they are among very old casinos, they were created in 2013. As for lottery, they say the say edge is zero... But their thread is not active although it is old. And it mostly consists of newbies posting their referral links. So I just suggest the OP to keep us up to date about his negotiation with casino managers.
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You have a lot of casinos on your site but what are the criteria os sites' order? I mean, I have no clue about the first 12 casinos or so, because fortunejack, crypto-games are closer to the bottom. And I guess the trust is not one of the main criteria, because betcoin.ag is a lot higher than crypto-games, for instance... And what about the new casinos like btcdragon or bonanza? Or is this site only about quite old ones?
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Hi. I'm sorry maybe this is not the right place to post it but from yesterday when I go on my profile page and click 'Show the last posts button' all of my posts are slightly floated right and so to see the time the post was made I have to scroll right. Anybody else having this issue or is it just me? I have the same thing on different computers, by the way. I'll add a photo here.Thank you. http://imgur.com/a/oQLUR
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The site looks good but I've heard about it being a scam. Some people say they recieved payment (low one). And some guys who earned 0.01+ say they didn't recieve the payment. You can see the complaints right here: https://netbusinessrating.com/en/review-10532-freebitcoin. The OP doesn't have negative trust, the thread itself is quite big here, so can somebody tell me is it a scam or not? Thank you. i never heard freebitco.in scam people since they are started from 2013. They are the longest and trusted for faucet site (for me), so i doubt if they ever did that (scam). But, i have no idea how the pick the winner from their weekly lottery, and their House Edge (5%) is too high. Okay, maybe you are right but why are people writing other thigs on the site to which I gave link previously? "freebitco.in is a Scammer page The "provably fair" algorithm does not even exist!" and "Biggest Scam. They have stole my 0.01559201 BTC. May be they are paying regularly to small earner."? Well, anyway, I've signed up here and I'll try playing.
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The site is quite nice but I think it would have been better if users didn't have to keep their fumds on another site. I might be wrong but I think I've seen people not enjoying such schemes. I guess nowadays famous casinos let people keep their funds there and withdraw from out there. Anyway, it is only my opinion and I just wanted to express it to try to help the casino become better, because the games and design are attractive. And I guess I might be wrong, because people actually trust moneypot and so maybe this is not a disadvantage but an advantage of this casino. What do you guys think about that?
It is moneypot based app where the only way to play is using moneypot wallet. It is possible for this site to stand alone, but BITDV will need his own bankroll to do it. The reputation of moneypot is also help this site, btcdragon may get different result if they start with their own bankroll. Of course btcdragon get better start by using moneypot. Just my opinion. You are right if owners doesn't have enough bankroll to start or separate alone then getting aside on moneypot is a good move and as you said the reputation would really sound enough to most gamblers because we do all know about moneypot then for sure players would really to test it out. Yes, I guess you guys are right. I read more about moneypot and it is highly trusted, so thus a new casino acquires some kind of a protection and people who already have casinos they enjoy gambling in might try this one as well, because at least they can be sure there is no scam here. It is just that I didn't know about moneypot before trying to play on BTCDragon.
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It is better to risk your profit after withdrawing your initial deposit than playing it all risking it again will had you chance 50/50 its either you gonna win again or you gonna lose it all from playing it in the long run well you already did risk there but for me be careful i must go play with profit than doing nothing.
I agree with that. Moreover, I think it is a good strategy in many other things as well. If you bought some altcoins and the price grew highly, I think it is better to withdraw the money you initially spent on buying them. This can work for any gambling as well is investing situation. However, when you withdrawed your initial deposit and lost other profit, you face the same situation again and it is really hard to make yourself withdraw the money when you feel like you can win more using it.
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The site is quite nice but I think it would have been better if users didn't have to keep their fumds on another site. I might be wrong but I think I've seen people not enjoying such schemes. I guess nowadays famous casinos let people keep their funds there and withdraw from out there. Anyway, it is only my opinion and I just wanted to express it to try to help the casino become better, because the games and design are attractive. And I guess I might be wrong, because people actually trust moneypot and so maybe this is not a disadvantage but an advantage of this casino. What do you guys think about that?
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i lost 1 btc at the old edition , it was very hard to win and no provably fair as now
Well, if you lost it doesn't really mean the casino isn't proably fair. I'm sure it is. And you at least found out how to play. I didn't. The design is pretty and as I am a fan of sushi I wanted to try that game. I read the instruction but still didn't get how tp set the bet amount and try my luck. SO I just kept crossing the rows till it bored me a bit and I decided to go back to this thread and see if someone can tell me what am I doing wrong ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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The site looks good but I've heard about it being a scam. Some people say they recieved payment (low one). And some guys who earned 0.01+ say they didn't recieve the payment. You can see the complaints right here: https://netbusinessrating.com/en/review-10532-freebitcoin. The OP doesn't have negative trust, the thread itself is quite big here, so can somebody tell me is it a scam or not? Thank you.
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Oops my bad if you got hurt on my words pal and you are right its not nonsense at all since its just a question i just reacted too much because FJ is really a legit site and i cant see any complaint as of now and as you said having a crash is possible anytime but i think it would happen as of now.
i kinda disagree with everyone who said if fortunejack is really a legit site. First, let see about trust rating on Fortunejack's account ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=303298) Mitchell 165: -0 / +17 2015-10-05 0.00000000 Reference This casino faked their statistics. I mean, they seem to be legit, but faking statistics is still very questionable. Second, still remember about this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434612.0Well, the author of their official thread on Bitcointalk has a zero trust. If it was a scam he would have surely got some negative one. And I've looked through a few pages in their thread and have seen no complaints. So, let's say it is quite a trusted casino, although there have occured some bad situations with it. I am almost sure that the guy who started this thread will get his payment soon. If it is a big sum then it's okay it takes more time till you get it.
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Design looks nice, but is waaaaay too heavy. I have a good connection, but page took almost a minute to load (all other pages take a under a second on average). The first review I clicked on took legit 2 minutes to load, and the information was well presented. However, I think you should write your own in-depth reviews, and on top of that have reviews written by users.
I have a good connection and an old acer Extensa computer and the page downloaded in a few seconds fully, so I guess the design is beautiful and super-light. Unfortunately, I seem not to understand what is this site about. Is it a site about btc casinos? I think so. But why old and famous casinos aren't there? If this site is only about new casinos then why fortunejack is there when it's years old? And who is adding rewiews here? Site manager or gamblers? If a site manager then I'd ask you to add BTCDragon as a new not-scam casino with many games you can play and a 4-faucet system. They have cool designs for old and good games to look more attractive and it works.
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I'm currently looking to casinos who accept Bitcoin as an investment to their sites. Do you happen to know any of it which is legit? I know that there some suggestions few pages back but I want to know the existing ones in 2017. And if you have any suggestion, do you have any experience with them in the past?
their so many site offering that and it matters on which site you would choose and try to go on big sites since i believe that they are the one who can safeguard your money against to scam gambling site who just want to get some money to their investors. My best pick for now is bitdice,bitvest,crypto-games(dunno if they still accepting investors) or might just scroll down on those buried threads where you can find great info's to your inquiries. Crypto-games still accepts investors and the min sum is only 0.01btc. They have mare than 1500btc (I don't remember the exact sum) bankroll, though, and so for now you get 4.75% profit every month (all this info comes from Lutpin, you can check it in crypto-games thread). Although there are many new perspective casinos now and maybe it is better to invest in them (but you risk more, of course). Or investments in old profitable casinos in altcoin's bankrolls can be made. Thus you invest in a lower bankroll but have a risk of the currency falling down.
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Great run by N8snathan , he won over 110 BTC on dice . Congratulations to him ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Good to see so many wins on dice at 50% chance . Big congrats to this guy. I hope he knows when to stop, because such a big amount won is great if you don't lose it due to gambling addiction. As for investors' complaints - yeah, stuff like this happens sometimes with casinos, but I think good casinos stay profitable anyway, so everybody will be happy eventually. Site's design is quite pretty and easy to use, dice game design remind strongly about primedice, though ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif) It is sad that newbies can't chat but the sum which needs to be wagered is not that big. And good idea to make people use tokens, thus your really small amounts in btc look more serious. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Old trusted casinos are good for bigger investment as gambling in these casino while if new casino come in existence then they often give good bonuses so in these we have to gamble with lower amount to claim the extra bonuses.
Why are trusted casinos better for investment than new ones? You mean because of them being reliable? Well, they surely are more reliable and yet it will take a couple of years just to get your money back. Yes, that is the truth. Even new ones will have a good faucets, games and even a high house edge, though they cannot give their full trust to some new casinos without even knowing if they will be. And i will really pick the old casinos because it is the trusted and proven sites and casinos.
But I thought it is not the matter of being proven. Casino can be provably fair regardless to its age and after a week or so payments will be confirmed, so after that it is already quite trusted. Old casinos is not always trusted and recommended, reviews are also can be made by shills to make the casino looks so good. Example 999dice, it is an old dice site but it cant be trusted and many people recommend to stay away from it.
Yes, sure. Sometimes awkward situations like with betcoin.ag occur but I think old casinos are still more trusted in general than the new ones.
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Payment received. Thanks DarkStar. So now there is just one more week for the campaign, right? Unless the owner of the site decides to continue the campaign. I've recieved my payment. It is nice to work with you. Thank you!
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We know many quite old and trusted casinos like Primedice, Safedice, Crypto-games etc. And yet I see there are many new casinos appearing like Bonanza or BtcDragon. Do new ones have a chance of becoming popular nowadays? And what can bring populatiry to a new casino? I think new casinos attract investors, because there is a low bankroll there which strengthens such casinos. What else can help? Do you think a signature campaign makes big difference, for example?
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That's a law that we all just loose in the long run. Those gambling theories that should help you to win work only like 1:1000 cases. And there is another rule - a casino never loose. So I gamble only for fun and just in the case if I get free ticket on some gambling site.
Just like others said, there is no law of losses but only the probability law perhaps. So our problem is that we neglect the probability and feel like we can win no matter what. It is good for you that you gamble for fun but I think it can still lead eventually to attempts to win and become addictive. As for casino never losing - some casinos ger robbed, some just stop being popular for some reason, so in such a way they can lose. Or if one wins big time, they don't want to pay this person and lose trust.
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I've been checking the links posted here https://dicesites.com/ and http://bitcoingamblingreviews.com/bitcoin-gambling-investments-612/and I think I will give it a go. SafeDice seems to be doing very well, and it will probably be my first option to try this. Let's see how it goes. Do you guys recommend a minimum amount to invest or something like that? I think I will leave the investment active for at least for a month there, I'm just not sure about the value. Crypto-games is also trusted and has shown that it is a good site to invest in. But you have to remember that such sites have a huge bankroll, so your stake is likely to be small. Lutpin told me that in crypto-games you get 4.75% profit per month now. This means that you'll get your money back in a year and 9 months and than you'll get the profit. Let's say it is approx.2 years to return money. Than if you invested 0.01btc (a minimum sum which is 10$ now) you get 0.005 per year which is in case btc price stays $1k five dollars. I think that's why people rather go for big investments than small ones and often say that small investment doesn't make sense. Another option is to risk more but to invest in a new but perspective casino like btcdragon with a smaller bankroll, so each month you'll get more than 4.75% profit.
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Without spending money isn't always an indication that you aren't considered as gambling addict and as you said if playing gambling/poker consumes too much time on his life or shall we say longer hours on an entire day then hes definitely a gambling addict because we should really need to balance our time on leisure and some important matters on life no matter how old we are.
I agree. One can be addicted to something not requiring money to be spent. You say he's addicted but how can he stop playing for some time then? And how can he stop participating in a tournament when he is winning but just got bored? He doesn't actually have important matters in his life, so he plays, because there's nothing else to do. However, now he got interested in starting business, so maybe this will distract him a bit.
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When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?
For me it totally makes senses since it would still earn a profit, We are investing to make some profit so even if it is just a small amount a profit is still a profit so it would always count for me. You are right in a way, it sort of makes sense as long as it is profitable. However, it doesn't make sense in a different meaning. I mean that from what I have learned so far, if you invest in a popular site which has shown to be profitable for investors (crypto-games) you get your money back (neglecting the price changes in USD) in a bit less than two years. Then you start to earn. It is okay if you do that with big sums of money but if your invested 10$ it means that you'll earn around 6$ per year which in a way doesn't make sense. Nevertheless, if one believes that 0.01 is 10$ now but will be 200$ in a few years, it changes everything and you get the same sum of btc back but in USD it's a lot bigger. The opposite can occur as well though.
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