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961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 12, 2017, 12:40:01 PM
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So is the US$ and every other currency the governments should stop these too

BTW bitcoin cannot be stopped without turning off the internet worldwide

Your BCH wallet is on 'Electron Cash'?
Electron cash is safe wallet for BCH?

ALL my wallets are on a TREZOR hardware wallet

Electron Cash has been around since the split and I have not seen any reported issues so far but that does not mean any exist
962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 12, 2017, 12:27:31 PM
Segwit works. Security is not compromised. Bitcoin is over $5000, everyone's happy, except the bag holders.

Its above $5200 and what the hell is going ..
internet is full of articles against BTC as it is using for terrorism,drugs,selling sex,black market
Don't you think governments will stop BTC soon or late ?

So is the US$ and every other currency the governments should stop these too

BTW bitcoin cannot be stopped without turning off the internet worldwide
963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 12, 2017, 10:44:50 AM

Honest question what do you have against segwit ?

Segwit weakens Bitcoin's security model
https://bitcrust.org/blog-incentive-shift-segwit

Risk of SegWit
https://nchain.com/en/blog/risks-of-segregated-witness-mining-cartels/

Dr. Peter Rizun - SegWit Coins are not Bitcoins - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoFb3mcxluY

Didn't SegWit increase the block capacity?
https://www.bitcoincash.org/
Even if used in 100% of transactions, the increase would equate to 1.7MB blocks. Thus, it is a small capacity increase at best. It will not handle exponential growth or worldwide usage. Second, the soft fork implementation results in discardable signatures, which weakens Bitcoin's security model. Third, it makes future capacity increases more difficult due to bandwidth inefficiency and quadratic hashing attacks which SegWit doesn't solve since an attacker isn't forced to use it.

For those (and other) reasons, Bitcoin Cash was necessary as a pre-SegWit fork. Segwit will not be adopted.


8 times Core told people Segwit is a Blocksize Increase
http://archive.is/6DkOY

Small Blocks Destroy Miner Revenue
https://keepingstock.net/an-open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-c260467e1f0


Is that the best you can come up with some BS articles I could come up with a list of articles that list technical reasons on why increasing the blocksize is bad does that make it a valid reason.

on another note looks like the miners have finally thrown in the towel and gave up last block 3 and a half hours ago now just wait for the EDA exploit to fix the profitability for them they only need to trigger a single reduction to keep parity any more and it will be more profitable and back to hyper blocks

Did you even read tec-bro? You've got a long way to go to fully understand this technology. MartinGandhiKennedy was nice enough to paste you a dump of some pretty well-researched academic work that shoots Segwit full of holes, and you want to reply 10 minutes later that you've still got all the answers? Lrn2google and educate yourself.

Here's a 20 word summary for you: Segwit is 6000 lines of code that will haunt Kore/BTC to the grave. Lightning doesn't exist and won't ever work.

I suggest you adjust your thinking accordingly.

Oh, and BCH hashrate/EDA gaming is fixed. Somebody made an API which allows miners to jump on BCH mining the minute the hashrate drop dramatically - market forces at work...



MartinGandhiKennedy on Today at 01:48:58 AM
tekmobile on Today at 06:41:51 AM


Someone needs to learn to read too  Roll Eyes

segwit is in the wild securing a lot of money currently over 10% of all btc transactions are segwit on and has been active on litecoin for years with 0 reported issues


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Oh, and BCH hashrate/EDA gaming is fixed. Somebody made an API which allows miners to jump on BCH mining the minute the hashrate drop dramatically


That is not the definition of fixed, fixed would be that they cannot game the system anymore not that they can game it more accurately there are currently talks of removing it altogether
964  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 12, 2017, 06:41:51 AM

Honest question what do you have against segwit ?

Segwit weakens Bitcoin's security model
https://bitcrust.org/blog-incentive-shift-segwit

Risk of SegWit
https://nchain.com/en/blog/risks-of-segregated-witness-mining-cartels/

Dr. Peter Rizun - SegWit Coins are not Bitcoins - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoFb3mcxluY

Didn't SegWit increase the block capacity?
https://www.bitcoincash.org/
Even if used in 100% of transactions, the increase would equate to 1.7MB blocks. Thus, it is a small capacity increase at best. It will not handle exponential growth or worldwide usage. Second, the soft fork implementation results in discardable signatures, which weakens Bitcoin's security model. Third, it makes future capacity increases more difficult due to bandwidth inefficiency and quadratic hashing attacks which SegWit doesn't solve since an attacker isn't forced to use it.

For those (and other) reasons, Bitcoin Cash was necessary as a pre-SegWit fork. Segwit will not be adopted.


8 times Core told people Segwit is a Blocksize Increase
http://archive.is/6DkOY

Small Blocks Destroy Miner Revenue
https://keepingstock.net/an-open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-c260467e1f0


Is that the best you can come up with some BS articles I could come up with a list of articles that list technical reasons on why increasing the blocksize is bad does that make it a valid reason.

on another note looks like the miners have finally thrown in the towel and gave up last block 3 and a half hours ago now just wait for the EDA exploit to fix the profitability for them they only need to trigger a single reduction to keep parity any more and it will be more profitable and back to hyper blocks
965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 12, 2017, 01:09:56 AM


And why would we want to do that segwit fixes most if not all of the outstanding bugs that satoshi was struggling with

Honest question what do you have against segwit ?
966  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 11, 2017, 11:02:55 PM
$50 par value ~ i'll pay that cuz thats where i saw bitcoinSatoshi make moves  Cool  lol

You have to wait so long for this moment but I don't think you will get succeed to pick at this value. This coin still has good support than it bounce back soon once the accumulation will be done.

Yes agree, it seems like it takes a long time and is difficult to achieve, I'm sure the BCH price will not drop under $ 100, this is a good time to invest the price of about $ 300 next year will reach at least $ 1000.

They were saying that at $600 it wont go below $500 and it's just kept going down but hang in there eventually one of you will get it right 
967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 11, 2017, 07:06:38 PM

Bitcoin XT (RIP)
Bitcoin Classic (RIP)
Bitcoin Unlimited (RIP)
Bitcoin Cash  (Life Support)
Bitcoin Gold (TBA)
Bitcoin 2x (TBA)



At least the cash guys didn't call it "Bitcoin" like the 2X gang will call their altcoin.

I will give them that at least they did it right with replay protection but if you split properly then replay protection makes no difference it will only catch the inexperienced
968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 11, 2017, 04:52:32 PM
And after BCC, we now have MillionBitcoinCash (MBCH, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2244959)

Can anyone confirm if this is legit or not? Since the guy behind it is claiming to have been on the BCC team:

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I am Arvind Norberg , I Have 5 years experience on block chain technology.

I am also technical team in Bitcoin cash
when hard fork happend on 1st August and it was big success then we expected .

This is one I would stay away from without a doubt just a money grab it got mentioned once in one of my twitter posts I had a look for like 2 seconds and that was enough for me

And as for bitcoin cash was was bigger success than expected I just have to give that a big lols the expectation was to steal the majority of power and value from core

If this is real it will go with the long line of failures

Bitcoin XT (RIP)
Bitcoin Classic (RIP)
Bitcoin Unlimited (RIP)
Bitcoin Cash  (Life Support)
Bitcoin Gold (TBA)
Bitcoin 2x (TBA)

969  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 11, 2017, 03:11:19 AM
Hi guys. 
Can anyone shed some light on this talk of "airdrops" I have been hearing with the upcoming BTC forks.

Like what will be airdropped and when?

Just seen a certain B2X with a maximum supply of just over 1,000,000 valued at $5 on coinmarketcan.

Did that one get airdropped already.

Thanks a million in advance for any response guys. (Be nice).

By airdrops what these mean are when a clone of bitcoin happens the chain is cloned and any bitcoins you hold at the time of the clone are duplicated 1:1 so far there is just bitcoin cash this happened on the 1at august.

The next one is called bitcoin gold this is due to happen on the 25th October but may be delayed as there seems to still be quite a bit of work required and then there is B2X than will happen sometime in November I think it's somewhere around the 17th

The value of any chainsplit is unknown until it has hit the market and actually trading if you have just started collecting bitcoin and only have a tiny balance then you probably won't get anything of substantial value

Also you must have the original bitcoin holding any forks or any other altcoins and you won't get anything

Actually splitting your coins can be risky too unless you know what you are doing
970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 10, 2017, 07:14:49 PM
Dead yet?  Awful lot of maximalists heavy winded in here  Cheesy

It's getting there slowly where's all the BCH supporters shouldn't you all be here trying to defend this
971  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 10, 2017, 12:05:07 PM
This fork soon will not have the same success that he had. The new fork will take over the bulk of cash money. Good luck bcash Wink

Sort or correct yes right now Bitcoin is just competing with BitCash

The split between Bitcoin and BitCash is pretty much a clean split you are either with core or against

Going forward the core supporters remain core supporters but the non core supporters will now be split between BitCash and Seg2x (probably be a 50:50 split)

So right now Bitcoin/BitCash (87:13)

after probably more like below

Bitcoin/BitCash/Seg2x (86:7:7)
972  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 10, 2017, 12:52:08 AM
BCH is more expensive than ETH, wow, what a good thing.

Probably does not help when the BCH supporters are throwing some weight behind B2X now
973  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 09, 2017, 05:50:28 PM
Same here. I feel bad for anyone who left BTC on Coinbase and is still months away from being able to dump their BCH. They lost out bigtime.

BCH has no use case now - what good are 8 MB blocksizes when 100 kb. is more than it needs? Other than that it is just a fossilizing relic with no segwit, no LN, no dev support, just a bunch of miners wringing the last bit of EDA-driven profit they can out of it before it is dead.

fundamentals and development don't matter. 99% of people don't give a shit about that. all they do give a shit about is whether it's gonna pump, and if it won't then they'll arrange that themselves.

there's no way i'd ever put any actual money into bch. all the same its death is being overstated.

Yea there are miners still with 1000s of these in wallets they wont let it die if need be they will pump it themselves just so they can unload what they have
974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 09, 2017, 03:18:38 PM
Right now it's very close to its all time low and this is the low from the mass dumping right after users were able to get to exchanges from the chain split

it's also a low after a few months of it being alive which has proven it's not being used for anything and it's being gamed to shit.

i'd say this low is less reassuring but it also coincides with all alts dwindling to nothing. if you haven't got rid already i can't really see the point of making a move now.

Being as low as the initial huge mass dumping is definitely not a good sign if it remains low tomorrow after the Koreans bank holiday ends then it's even worse since they seem to be the main users
975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 09, 2017, 03:06:12 PM
Seriously guys, hold to what? Catching a falling knife will make a big hole in your hand. Get out of BCH while it drops. Unless you have money in it you don't "need" or "can lose". My two cents.

EDIT: I'm watching the chart for BCH / BTC all the time though. I'll buy back in eventually.

Right now it's very close to its all time low and this is the low from the mass dumping right after users were able to get to exchanges from the chain split
976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 08, 2017, 09:36:47 PM
https://news.bitcoin.com/indias-multi-currency-exchange-will-list-bitcoin-cash-in-two-weeks/

It's almost Oct 11 now. Let's see how this will impact the current trend.

Isn't India the #1 capital of SCAMS quite fitting really

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Hello this is steve from IRS we have outstanding balance that need to me paid or police take to to jail you must send us 30BCH




I wonder how much longer the miners will let the profitability slide before forcing the EDA scam
977  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 08, 2017, 09:15:40 PM
Yeah, dropping big now. Lots of sell orders at Bitfinex. Looks like everyone want "out" of it. Shocked

Why they are selling quickly?

There could be a various reasons such as

1. B2X is almost here and many would rather hold this to selling for BTC
2. The EDA is killing the credibility as it's being gamed by the miners
3. The users and devs from all the different camps are all kind of fighting on the best way to deal with the EDA issue
4. It was initially seen this would take over BTC but it's been proved this will not happen

plus any more anyone can think of
978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 08, 2017, 05:35:30 PM
BCH is the real Bitcoin. Buy when it's low! It is more user friendly with low fees than BTC Core-Blockstream which is funded by AXA and Bilderberg Group/ BTC-Core will defo die, and BCH will take its place shooting to $200,000/ BCH

No its an alt coin and loosing value fast currently on a fasktrak down to 0.075BTC
979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 08, 2017, 05:32:53 PM
bch is bcc is bcash. they're all the same thing. people choose to give them different names.
electron cash is the one you need for windows.

BCC is bitconnect with different price
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitconnect/

And BCH is Bitcoin cash
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/

How you say both are same!

Bitconnect is BCC but when BitcoinCash launched they decided they wanted to use BCC too so they did but pretty much everywhere decided to use BCH to stop confusion between the two yet the Bcash wallets still insist on using BCC.. confused yet lol
980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 08, 2017, 11:15:13 AM
I think that there should be a big thread about the upcoming fork at this end of the month called bitcoin gold, as I am yet to understand how it's work and what it aims to be.

I think that once bitcoin gold comes out, we are probably going to see a decrease in the price of bitcoin cash, as we are going to have another bitcoin like alt who is going to be fighting for the same market share, not going to be so easy for bitcoin cash to fight both bitcoin and bitcoin gold, if I was an holder I would be selling my shares for bitcoin.


the only reason bch is a big deal is because they cleverly aligned it with the threatened chain split and it's backed by bitmain and all the usual hijacking pricks.

bitcoin gold will be a pipsqueak with no momentum. it won't have any impact.

I wouldn't say gold won't have any impact maybe not quite the same as cash but then again they are competing in different spaces gold is really competing against other GPU coins

The biggest threat to cash is segwit2x because a lot of current cash supporters are also big B2X supporters there have been many polls run on twitter and most end up close to 50:50 for which chain they will support

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