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961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 20, 2023, 10:53:59 PM
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That's not what I meant. That Ronaldo himself is in great form and not going to retire just yet is understandable. But the question is, will players move to the SPL with the same fervour if Ronaldo isn't there? It's essentially a question of whether Ronaldo's move has had an impact in the long term

Yeah, you're right.

The first move is the most difficult and expensive probably. Once you have at least one big player there in your league the second will be easier to bring. And so on.

That's what has happened in the European leagues, people want to go there because they pay well but also because there are other great players.

Right now there is a lot of money in the Saudi Arabian league, but it's lacking the skilled people. Those might arrive in the future if they offer lots of money, at least for the first ones.
962  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 20, 2023, 10:51:37 PM
How did this unemployed person got addicted to gambling in the first place?
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I would think that many unemployed people turn to gambling as a way to make money, as they don't have it.

Not saying it's the best way to do it, but many do.

They will use some or all of their savings and try their luck at the casino, most of the time of course they simply end up losing it all.
963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: November 20, 2023, 10:50:11 PM
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In the process of becoming a good gambler we need to understand; money management, self discipline and self education on the effects of gambling. What works for the next gambler may not work for us. Hence, it's the duty of every gambler to manage their risks by following the right routines. When a player lose their control in gambling. They'll be controlled by gambling addiction. And it'll be much difficult for them to withstand the gravity dragging them towards every day gambling. The difficulty of curing gambling addiction depends on the decision of the addicted person. Yet, it's always hard for them to fight against what's eating them up mentally. But, if any addicted gambler try his best to stop, he'll achieve it. Given time. If they read news articles about what gambling addiction has done to gamblers, it can help in reminding them about their mistakes. Families has been broken because of gambling. Many have wasted money meant for the growth of business on gambling. Another important aspect of maintaining healthy gambling habit, is having a personal gambling technique. Which money limitation is also a nice gambling skill. I still don't get why the addicted gamblers don't feel the pain of the punishment they cause themselves and family members. Changing themselves can take longer time, but when the family tries to help, the time it'll take can be slashed into two. Thereby facilitating a fast healing process for the gambler.

Yes, the fundamental skill that any gambler should have is money management. Avoiding bankruptcy should be the number one driver of decisions for a gambler.

It doesn't matter if the gambler is the most skilled person in the world if they just lost their last cent. They can't play any more.
964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 20, 2023, 10:48:43 PM
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FIFA made many changes to boost the reward they are getting. Even splitting the World Cup between many nations means developing better infrastructure for football, extend its supporters and with the more games you have, the more advertising you have and more sponsors you get which in the end turn to more money for them.
I agree that basically every match in World Cup is watched by millions of people around the world and most of the time by people who aren't even the citizens of these countries. Imagine hearing Saudi Arabia are owning Argentina in football. Everyone will turn the TV to watch this humiliation! World Cup have its own charm Wink

Yeah, at the end of the day, the main driver of decisions from FIFA will always be money maximizing.

I don't think it necessarily is a bad thing though, for example having now more substitutions and extra time will probably make games more interesting to watch, even though there will be less unique players as you can move them around more often, like in Basketball for example.
965  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 20, 2023, 02:55:06 AM
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It's not that the GOAT is the Saudi Arabian but I think Ronaldo is the GOAT in the world and regardless of his age, he can still have good performance in the time he plays for them.
We know Ronaldo had good performances when he was a younger player in Real Madrid and Manchester United but even after the age of 30, he still had good performances and Ronaldo even scored more goals after this time. He is definitely a player who can play for a longer time.

Ronaldo is a player from the previous generation really, the sport has now changed quite a bit.

For example, the many substitutions you can have, the extra time going further than 5 minutes, etc.

It's a very different game now that probably will suit a different type of player.
966  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 20, 2023, 02:53:16 AM
In a situation where they make it 48 teams, with 4 teams in each group, that would be 12 groups, if they do 2 teams from each group that would be 24 teams, how are they going to handle that? They would be forced to make some teams play more games of knock off stage, and I do not think that would be fair. If they want to make it bigger, I would say 32 is the ideal number, let them stay with that, getting it to 64 would be way too much, and putting extra teams to groups would just make more teams lose at groups that's it, nothing changes, the fun is at the knock off stages not the groups.

In the end, this is just a small cup, a team plays a maximum of 7 games including finals, most teams have like 3 games, and some have something in between, trying to make it more games doesn't change a thing. This cup is already making way too much money too, not like they are not making any money, so they do not really need to change anything at all, feels like it is as normal as it gets.

Yeah, I'm not sure how they will manage to do the whole tournament with so many teams.

It means in my mind that basically the qualification stage will continue a bit into the initial stage of the world cup.

Maybe they will have a longer knock off stage, which is probably the simplest to implement as each stage halves the number of teams, whereas the group stage comes with multiple games.

But I have to say that the fun is in every game, not just knock-off stage. If anything, I think the group stage is more interesting as there is a chance to make one mistake for example, and still win, like Argentina did as they lost their first game to Saudi Arabia, and then continued to win the whole thing.

At the end of the day FIFA will probably maximize money making designs. We'll see how it goes.
967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: November 20, 2023, 02:48:48 AM
No one put me in gambling I do it my own. My dedication help me a lot. I have seen my some big brothers who loss a huge amount in gambling. After that he left gambling because it was huge amount. Then I realized that is game of experience not luck. Form now to then I face losses but not that big amount to left gambling.

All gambling is simply luck, and the odds are against the gambler.

Sure, experience and skill can increase your chances, but your expected return is always negative. That's how the casinos design their games.

That means that for the vast majority of people, they will lose more than they win.

Only a few will actually win, but even they might want to continue gambling, which means they will also lose in the end.
968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: November 20, 2023, 02:46:45 AM
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Don't you think it's a benefit that whenever you are back reviewing your spreadsheet with your win or loss data, you will think not twice but more than that before you gamble? Because in my opinion, it's a kind of reminder, not like guilt-tripping or anything, but the reality check on your spending. The real benefit of keeping a record is that you can analyze not only your lose and win record but also your actual financial spending on gambling, and you can verify it with your actual financial savings. And I don't think every gambler should have to keep their record, because if you're not a gambling addict, then you will definitely think before spending.

Yeah, it's clearly a benefit.

But it will most of the time mean that the person will see that they are paying way more than what they feel comfortable, and maybe stop gambling, which is an activity they enjoy.

So, many people just don't want to see that reality because they want to gamble again.

Same with alcohol, if you enjoy drinking it, you won't bother paying high prices for it, whereas paying for other things at the same price would be a big no for the same person.

Human behavior is so interesting!
969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 20, 2023, 02:44:22 AM
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One issue I often find among people is that they do not take their finances as seriously as they should, they think that since they plan to only use a small amount of money to gamble then it does not really merit for them to be that careful when they do.

But that is precisely when a person will eventually spend more money than what they originally thought, and when this behavior keeps repeating itself not only in gambling but on several other aspects of their lives then it is not surprising we see people being unable to save any money and getting a lot of debts for stuff they did not even need.

I personally think that the amount is not necessarily the key aspect, as I've done it before without ending up in multiple gambles. I just gambled a small amount, and that was it.

There are other triggers that are more important, like how much your brain gets hooked with gambling in particular.

In a similar way, someone that is not prone to be addicted to alcohol can take a small sip and walk away, whereas other people will keep sipping for the whole night.
970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: November 19, 2023, 12:44:17 AM
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Overthinking it could sometimes take away all the fun out of it and anxiety slowly replaces the feeling of excitement that was initially there. And that’s why I think people dream up notions about the possibility of earning an income from gambling.

Casinos, being in business to make profit, is not really different from any business that has profit oriented goals. would create a suitable environment for anyone willing to gamble. After all, it’s only natural for businesses to be innovative and want to provide the best environment for customers.
I must admit. Not having clocks or windows so people wouldn’t be time conscious would go a long way in making people stay much longer and spend more money.

Yeah, it's a form of entertainment in a way.

Casinos provide the space for people to enjoy some chances to become millionaire. That's also why many casinos are built as "fancy" places, so that people would feel a bit of that lifestyle.

As with everything in life, if you do it in a balanced way, there's no issues. The problem starts when people lose control and gamble all their money away.
971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: November 19, 2023, 12:41:11 AM
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This is incredible, because most of us have always seen the USA as a clearly developed country in all senses, this is something that could help a lot to make others believe that this country can make a difference in the world, if we put our minds to it. Let's see, the world economy is given because the entire world economy is given by a clear hegemony of the dollar, every advance and every category that has to do with economic progress. The first Indicator is the dollar, so based on this, we realize that the USA It has many economic activities, because for what their economy is currently, they have clear inflation, people know that to make a good market you need more than 500usd and this in comparing just a few years with 100usd the things that could be There were many changes, this without taking into consideration the services that I have also been told are cheap, so I believe that this high cost of living is due to that very thing, how expensive this is becoming.

With respect to politics, they have a tone that is becoming very fierce , they are already resembling the policies and actions of my country where it is being shown that the oldness for power is too much, and that is not good, for one thing. On the other hand , I think that they are waging a lot of war on Trump, whether it is true or false about the accusations that have been made against him, it seems that the same politicians are putting him in trouble and that I consider to be playing very dirty, and something that I have Expectations about It's when politicians play dirty against others, because I live in a country where being a politician guarantees you a full life because what they do is be very corrupt, and that apparently is what generates more money , money that they blatantly steal, and even though This is not the case in the USA, I see that there is a lot of fighting for power, and perhaps people see that and do not want things to turn out the way They want , surely the president who Remains will have strong protests..

It's good to remember that the US is just about 200 years old, and that empires far larger and greater have fallen down.

There is no guarantee that the US will always stay as a super power.

For example, Argentina used to be a rich country, top 10 in the world, and now it has a horrible inflation destroying its wealth.

In these uncertain times who knows if we are looking at the last few years of the US power.
972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: November 19, 2023, 12:38:26 AM
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I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before someone creates and AI bot that can sit around making thousands of bets per day and winning at a rate slightly higher than the average gambler. I still don’t think AI can beat the odds over a casino in the long run, but I imagine it could probably bet a massive amount of money with a ton of bets to make gamblers inflate their amount bet numbers like never before.

In a way this has already happened, in the stock exchange. It's called High Frequency Trading (HFT), and it's been happening since more than a decade or two already.

Basically the bots try to find a good opportunity and they buy or sell stocks, all of this in milliseconds. There's no way a human can compete with this.

In terms of betting, I guess most casinos have slower interfaces so I don't think they provide a similar infrastructure like the stock exchange.
973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 19, 2023, 12:35:18 AM
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yeah we are all aware that consulting in a specialist is a bit expensive and this is the best way to seek help, but I think it depends in every country because there are some that offers Therapy and check up's for free by the help of the government and insurances like HMO, they covered consultations as well. Since OP seeks low cost but effective solution for gambling addiction, the last thing that possibly may help an addicted gambler is by the help of family; Console, listening to them and giving an advice but most importantly, gambler should have to help their self to overcome this matter too. 

Yeah, the social aspect is quite important actually. There is a lot that can be fixed with having a supportive network.

Spend time with your friends and family, that will make you feel much better, and will have less chances of becoming an addict.

Low cost as well, unless your friends and family charge you by the hour  Grin
974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Changed the game you gamble on? share your story. on: November 19, 2023, 12:31:52 AM
How exactly can one enjoy gambling playing just one game? i have not gone through the comments and honestly do not think that there will be anyone who have focused on just one game for over a year or more, every gambler must have shifted from one game to the other in the search for luck, except for those who are just starting out in gambling.

For me, i have played a lot of games in all my gambling journey, i have played slot games, casino games, sports betting of different types like football, handball, volleyball, table tennis and so on, when it comes to slot games, i have also played a lot of slot games, of which most of it i can't even remember their title or name.

So, for me, i think the fun in gambling is trying out one game after the other, one never knows which of these games he or she will find good luck in, so this is why i personally believe that it makes more sense to play from one to another, than just focusing on just playing one game all through.

I think you are just enjoying gambling. Some people get quite obsessed and they will think a specific machine, game or site is somehow "lucky" and they will stick to that.

It's a bit like how people believe in superstitions, they are not real, but their minds make them real.
975  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as a peer to peer method less popular than as an investment on: November 16, 2023, 12:22:43 AM
I was thinking about this, and realized that Bitcoin on-chain peer to peer works great for transferring large amounts of money.

If you plan to use a bank to transfer a lot of money, it is really inconvenient and it takes forever to send the funds internationally.

With Bitcoin though, you just need a few minutes and you can transfer any amount, anywhere in the world.

Yes, to pay for a coffee you would probably use a different method, like lightning for example. In the same way that you wouldn't make a bank transfer to pay for your coffee with fiat and use a card instead.
976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: November 16, 2023, 12:19:50 AM
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Stats are for people who want to present or have a detailed report on something and while I’m yet to meet someone who would want to be continuously updated on the sizable chunk of money he has lost overtime compared to peanuts he most likely felt really happy to have won, there may actually be some people who have and keep such detailed report of their gambling history for whatever reasons.
I think the average gambler which includes the group of gamblers who play for recreational purposes as well as those who aren’t frequent and play at random could care less for records of their gambling which would probably show more loses than wins.

Yes, spot on.

The whole gambling thing is about not thinking about it too much. That's also why in casinos they don't have windows or clocks anywhere, they don't want you to realize how much time you have been in there.

It's a bit like being in a different reality, controlled by the casino. And when the gambler wakes up, sometimes they find themselves in a very different reality.
977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 16, 2023, 12:15:13 AM
Is the US team actually prepared to win their tournament?

Historically, the home team always has an advantage. Could they use this opportunity?

I think they currently don't have players of the caliber of Landon Donovan, or Clint Dempsey. Those were probably some of the best players in the best era of US football.

But maybe I'm missing on some young talent, anyone knows some of them?
978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 16, 2023, 12:11:44 AM
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There are countries that offer free sessions or rehabilitation and the government is the one sponsoring it, so check with your government if they have a program like that there are charitable institutions that will sponsor rehabilitation too, so the first thing is to check the availability of these services in your country, these sponsorships by the government and charitable institutions will last until you are fully healed.

Here in our country, we have free counseling and rehabilitation but there is an agreement that you need to fully commit yourself until you are fully healed because you will be called to also offer help to those who need treatment that you've gone through.

I've always thought about those things as being a bit strange.

Because when you think about it, the government earns a lot of money from the gambling activity of their citizens.

Then, on the other hand, the government has to pay to rehabilitate and help the gambling addicts of their country.

I'm pretty sure they don't use the whole amount they earn to help though.
979  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Changed the game you gamble on? share your story. on: November 16, 2023, 12:09:54 AM
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Even me as well football betting is one of the game I love betting because I'm a footballer and I have been playing football since I was a kid so I became attached to football betting because as soccer player I know how most of the team or rather clubs normally plays whenever they meet certain clubs.

Perhaps that was the reason why i stick more on football betting because I'm more familiar with football betting games than the rest, but although I have played other games but I found football betting as the best for me and I don't think I can change it because in as much there is always chances of losing bet, there is always chance for me to also win because as a footballer I have study them a lot.

Yeah, personal experience definitely makes you a bit better at guessing the results of the matches.

But realistically speaking, if you know noting about football and see the odds of a match, you already know the favorite.

So, at the end of the day, it is still random. The best team pays less than the worse team, because they will most probably win.

Maybe if you know something in particular about a player or match that is not well known you could have an edge.
980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: November 15, 2023, 02:11:50 AM
Not a good idea.
What happens if your boss or superior finds you and this is against the companies playbook?
If an employee has this much free time and can gamble then they aren't doing their job and need to get back into what pays them for their time.

Many employees spend most of their time at social media, or just randomly scrolling the web.

It has been studied, and they realized that about 20% of the workers generate about 80% of the work.

It's the Pareto distribution all over again.
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