What kind of logic is that and why should NEM be held accountable for decreases in the NXT/USD rate?

Check the logic out for a sec...  you're saying that if someone bought 1 NEMstake for 40000 NXT but had bought his/her NXT in November 2013...  he/she only paid ~0.04 BTC for it.

Guys give it a rest... Some people won some lost.. Nothing can be done about that now and looking at historical data is pointless when trying to gauge potential.

Why not sit tight for a while and let the devs work their magic. There's a bright future ahead so there is no reason to dwell on or debate the past.

Please take this to pm if you wish to continue the debate as its not helping anyone doing it here. Thanks.

Go read...  it has been proven that there have been no major dumps and that the greater majority of XEM holders (including those that bought on the Nxt AE) are in the green...  

My dear Mister Singing Club,
maybe they only understand train station either because your english is under all pigs.
The drop is sucked.

NOPE. I dont think that numbers support your theory. I am saying that majority of people who got envolved with NXT are now in red numbers. Majority of people involved with NEM are in green numbers. Dont forget that NXT was sold at 90 mil. mar.cap. now it is not even 9! Volume and interest is biggest on pumps and ATH, so many people lost even 90 percent of value of their investment. No such disaster with NEM.

Yes NXT stakeholders are driving lambos, but people who gave them money to buy those lambos are now desperate and turned into trolls.
NEM had no pumps, volatility is not big, and people are waiting for AE and other features. Current price and volume is just logical to me. It just says real project in development. I know you guys think that this thread is dead and there is nothing more to NEM, but that is not truth.

NEM devs left BTT, they consider it toxic, and they also dont care if you will sell your XEM. They are working and they have plenty ideas, but they are not promising shit, because its contraproductive. Things gonna be ninja.

Also, this is not communist movement. It is equality of opportunity, now we are in free market forces phaze. Someone makes money someone loses money. What should devs do? A little pump for bored crowds? No, thank you.

You're joking...  right?  

WTF does that have to do with NEM?   

Edit:  How about those that bought their NEMstake for 15000 NXT?   

This is  nonsense. If you are comparing original stakeholders, Nxt original stakeholders made a lot more money.  But what's worse, Nxt sold pretty cheap for first month (1 btc to 2 btc per million nxt), so anyone who bought Nxt in first month after the launch made  significant money by January 2014  (launch was in November 2013).  All early Nem buyers lost money (both on AE, and after launch)

This is a unique opportunity! One of the NEM team (maybe paid patmaster) should go to the Liberland guy (maybe with community funds) and explain to him personally the advantages of NEM!

Question: What incentive do banks have to partner up with a crypto coin from some corner in the world when they already have systems such as swift or they can just fund their own cryptography/programming experts?

edit: Just to clarify, this is aimed at all alt-coins, not just node. I just don't see the logic behind all these coins thinking they can partner up with multi-billion dollar institutions.

You don't need 5 million, that is just the number that would be optimal.

It's not like it's going to be a situation where 4.5 million won't be enough. It's just what Makoto said he would have, knowing what he knows.

They are not about to say, "surprise, you only have 3 million so your out!"

same here. ups