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961  Economy / Economics / Re: Real estate vs cryptocurrencies vs business on: August 13, 2023, 08:57:07 AM
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Which one would you choose from these and why?
It's fun to fill Sundays imagining if I have a lot of money then I will choose all three for me to make a better future financial arrangement.

I will experience with business because business has many types. Then I will choose bitcoin for long term investing and thirdly I will choose real estate.
Starting from a business where 70% of profits will be invested in bitcoin and several other types of crypto which can get good returns when the target time is set and 30% of the business profits carried out are added to capital.

Maybe I will do something similar with real estate, where the profits earned on investing in bitcoin and several other coins will be pooled for real estate. Of course, real estate requires a lot of money because land and apartments are very expensive to buy, so I made real estate the third choice.
962  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [SHARE] Kumpulan Gratisan, Giveaway, Kontes, Dan Sejenisnya on: August 12, 2023, 12:05:02 PM
SINBAD,IO MIXER August Price Prediction Challenge



Berspekulasi terhadap harga bitcoin selalu menjadi sebuah hal yang paling banyak diminati oleh orang dalam melihat dan menilai peluang yang akan terjadi sehingga banyak topik tentang spekluasi harga bitcoin ramai dikunjungi dan menjadi diskusi yang tergolong paling aktif.

Bulan Agustus tinggal sekitar 19 hari lagi dan salah satu mixer bitcoin yang bernama Sinbad.io sedang menunggu peserta yang memberikan prediksi harga bitcoin untuk bulan Agustus.
Caranya cukup mudah. Kita hanya perlu mengisi format yang sudah disediakan dan mengisi berapa prediksi harga bitcoin di bulan Agustus.
Peserta yang ingin berpartisipasi juga diberikan kesempatan untuk mengirim dua prediksi harga.

Format Pengiriman

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Prediction 1: $xx,xxx.xx
bech32 address:


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Prediction 2: $xx,xxx.xx
bech32 address:

Siapa tahu kita beruntung sambilan menguji tingkat keakuratan dalam menebak harga.
963  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: SINBAD,IO MIXER August Price Prediction Challenge on: August 12, 2023, 11:54:00 AM
Prediction 1: $30,271.90
bech32 address: bc1q7ctksgvqhaanqe5ckzrv9q4zdcfz77z0h6p45j
964  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Passive income with crypto on: August 12, 2023, 11:31:41 AM
... ... -snip- Too, you can try mining, but the mining issue is in getting tools and electricity costs of mining, and some platforms allow you to mine their coin and earn some rewards. Just be reminded that all these involve risk because you are dealing with Alcoins.
You are right, Franctoshi, in trying to get passive income by mining, you definitely need a tool or equipment that requires a person to spend a large amount of capital to buy and maintain the work equipment.

Regarding risk, it must be managed.
I still remember to this day that risks will always be there and will never disappear even though we have tried our best to stay away from them. That is, not necessarily because dealing with altcoins we will be at risk.
Dealing with bitcoins also comes with a risk to be faced, but not as great as one might get when dealing with altcoins.
965  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Bagaimana Cara Mewariskan Wallet/Bitcoin? on: August 12, 2023, 10:59:56 AM
Saya juga tidak bermaksud untuk ikut campur mengenai keputusan anda tentang rencana merahasiakan semua yang mengarah kepada akses ke aset yang anda miliki.
Mungkin kedepannya bisa direnungkan kembali niatan tersebut. Bagaimanapun pemanfaatan aset kripto atau aset dalam bentuk lainnya apalagi bagi ahli waris itu lebih baik ketimbang jadi 'barang' yang tidak bermanfaat sama sekali. Minimalnya edukasi pada salah satu keluarga yang memang 'layak' untuk meneruskan itu.
Seharusnya demikian karena bagi kita mewariskan sesuatu yang bisa bermanfaat untuk orang lain selalu menjadi keputusan yang baik untuk dilakukan.
Ribuan tahun yang lalu mewariskan sesuatu yang bisa dimanfaatkan oleh ahli waris sudah dilakukan dan masih bisa diterapkan pada era kita saat ini bahkan hingga ke anak-anak generasi setelah kita.

Bukankah secara tidak langsung Bitcoin itu merupakan 'warisan' dari Satoshi?
Tidak mungkin saya tidak sepakat kalau Bitcoin itu merupakan sebuah 'warisan' dari Satoshi Nakamoto kepada semua orang yang memiliki BTC.
Hanya berjumlah 21 juta dan tidak sebanyak koin lain. Sudah seharusnya ini disebut sebagai sebuah 'warisan' yang patut dan perlu dijaga serta dimanfaatkan dengan baik.
966  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin really not for everyone? on: August 12, 2023, 10:30:46 AM
I think he misunderstood what people were trying to say, that's the problem. It is for everyone, and we can all use it and there is nothing wrong with that, I think what he is trying to say is that it's not preferred by everyone.

The logic is that some people may say "it's not something I like" and that means it's not for them, it wasn't made for them, they didn't like it and they do not want to get into bitcoin, that's the meaning behind not for everyone. That is what people usually say, if you like and enjoy it and invest in it then it's for you, but if you dislike it and not really enjoy it and all that then it wasn't meant for you in the end. That is the type of situation we are having right now and could be considered as well.
We can understand the point in the OP which allows various assumptions to be born about what is meant, but from the title people can give the answer that bitcoin was created for everyone with free use without any intervention and regulation by anyone, whether as a means of payment or use as an investment asset.
When opinions arise that bitcoin is not meant for everyone, it will never be accepted or people who understand bitcoin will say it is not true.

Love it or hate it, bitcoin was created as a decentralized currency that served as a form of solution amid a crisis of people's trust in fiat currency.
Bitcoin is a valuable asset that must be properly guarded by bitcoin owners such as maintaining a useful legacy.
967  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Bagaimana Cara Mewariskan Wallet/Bitcoin? on: August 11, 2023, 05:49:38 PM
Jikalaupun saya meninggal kelak secara tiba-tiba, saya rela bahwa seluruh aset saya ini tidak bisa digunakan oleh siapapun dan terbengkalai begitu saja.
Saya juga tidak bermaksud untuk ikut campur mengenai keputusan anda tentang rencana merahasiakan semua yang mengarah kepada akses ke aset yang anda miliki.

Saya mendukung keputusan anda karena bagi anda itu sebuah rencana yang sangat bagus yang akan anda lakukan.
Tapi saya punya firasat lain yang mengatakan bahwa keputusan anda akan berubah nantinya karena anda salah satu orang yang paham betapa berharganya sesuatu yang bermanfaat bagi anda dan orang disekitar anda. Jika sesuatu yang bermanfaat, pasti kita akan menjaga dan merawatnya dengan baik seperti kita merawat dan membesarkan anak.

Saya ingat bagaimana kisah seorang Qarun dulunya sebagai orang paling kaya dengan melimpah ruah aset kekayaan yang dimiliki, tetapi kekayaannya terkubur.
968  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Passive income with crypto on: August 11, 2023, 05:03:59 PM
Hey guys! I've been in crypto for a while but since it's bear market I'm curious: are there any services where you can earn passive income in crypto, except lending?
If you know, share your experience, please.
The answer is staking. By staking, you can get passive income but staking requires carefulness in choosing assets and platforms.
So far, it's been a lot easier for you to learn staking because of the availability of sites about staking information.

What Is Staking In Crypto: How Does It Work. This is one of the readings that can help you understand staking because now it seems that many people are staking, especially people who don't have much time to monitor market price movements. So they choose to do staking to earn passive profits in crypto.

If you want, set aside your money to invest in bitcoin by buying regularly and holding until the price reaches a high price.
969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 11, 2023, 04:33:34 PM
It seems like that the chance for caicedo to go to the chelsea is far bigger compared with liverpool at this moment. The player can say no for liverpool.  There's still enough time for chelsea to complete the deal as soon as possible.

If in the end it is Caicedo's decision to choose Chelsea, for us it is a good decision for him. Maybe Caicedo sees more of his career opportunities at Chelsea.
I have proven myself by opening an Instagram account and doing a search on the Instagram account @Moises_Caicedo23 and typing Liverpool's name followed by no @liverpoolfc account.

Caicedo's chance to Chelsea is bigger. Caicedo has told Liverpool that he only wants to join Chelsea according to Fabrizio Romano's source in an exclusive tweet he made. For this tweet, Jammie Carragher retweeted it by writing a slightly harsh sentence against the amount given by Boehly to Caicedo.



What a war between liverpool and chelsea. This will make the upcoming match become a very hot match.
It will definitely be hotter than usual.
970  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: think before investing on: August 11, 2023, 12:21:21 PM
he went and sold his property to invest on Bitcoin without been knowledgeable about it. he went ahead and invest but loss everything because he doesn't know how to trade Bitcoin.
He sold all his properties and invested in bitcoins. Because he didn't know how to invest in bitcoins he lost everything.
Is it possible for someone to invest without having any knowledge, even though there are such types of people but the numbers can be counted on the fingers.
As long as your friend buys bitcoin and the amount is not intact, then the bitcoin will not be lost, unless he sells it shortly after the purchase is made. The exception that I said is trading activity.

The two types that you convey, the first is investment. Both trade.
What is the actual condition that your friend did that you want to tell.
Investing is different from trading.
971  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin is centralized, will it still have value ? on: August 11, 2023, 11:04:42 AM
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in conclusion, Bitcoin value is derived from its decentralized nature, which is closely with it's ideal, and any move towards centralization could fundamentally alter it's core and diminish it's value proposition.
The total amount of bitcoin supply is 21 million. The data seen on the market today shows that the number in circulation has reached more than 19 million. The closer to supply, the closer to scarcity bitcoin will be. When scarcity occurs, the value increases.
EFS has said that decentralization isn't the only thing that gives value to bitcoin and I confirmed it.

I think that you can understand very well because the difference between bitcoin and other cryptos is very easy to find if someone wants to look for it. Bitcoin brings freedom. With the decentralized nature of bitcoin, people find freedom.
Hopefully I'm not wrong in responding to your point.
972  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin best option to invest on: August 10, 2023, 01:40:17 PM
From the length of the OP description, I can understand that all types of investments must be believed to get an appropriate return, it doesn't have to be bitcoin as long as the investment is made like a side business.
This form of investment can be made anywhere as long as the form and investment to be made can be understood properly and correctly by every potential investor because the purpose of investment is to make a profit, not to get rich quickly.

For people who want to invest in cryptocurrency then bitcoin is the best investment ever that I know since I've been active with crypto world.
973  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: As an undergraduate, is it advisable to invest my trustfund in Bitcoin? on: August 10, 2023, 12:26:27 PM
I'm a student still studying, and I've been putting away some money from my trust fund over the last 3 years. Because money doesn't seem to buy as much as before in my country and maybe even everywhere, I'm thinking about what to do with my savings. I've been hearing about this thing called cryptocurrency and Bitcoin. People say you can buy Bitcoin and become really wealthy. Even one of my classmates told me the same thing.

I talked to my classmate, and he said I could learn about it on my own because there's a lot of information out there. That's how I ended up finding this forum. So, here's what I want to know: Is it a good idea if I use the money I've saved up from 3 years of my trust fund to buy Bitcoin?
Hopefully there isn't something or other behind your narrative that wants to get answers about whether or not it's worth investing a trust fund in bitcoins. The essence of the narrative written into this topic is to ask whether the existing funds are suitable for investing in bitcoin and getting rich.

Bitcoin is not a scheme or method to get rich quick. Finally, I said in a post about investing in bitcoin that there is no guarantee that investing in bitcoin will benefit quickly by seeing the price rise quickly as in other types of investment because the price movements of the crypto market are very volatile, but I dare say that investing in bitcoin could be the best way to preserve the value of your current fiat money in the long term compared to other coins in the crypto space.

You have only heard about the types of benefits that will be obtained when investing in bitcoins, but the risks involved when investing in bitcoins also need to be known from anyone who explains to you about investing in bitcoins.
I hope I'm not wrong in answering your question.
974  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buy e-sim with bitcoin on: August 09, 2023, 01:34:51 PM
IMO, what a great idea they did to make it easier for travelers to travel without having to bother carrying large amounts of fiat money in their trouser wallets.
Providing more convenience.

“You can just get an e-SIM from the airplane wifi, install it in a minute, and be online from the moment your plane touches down on the tarmac, without worrying about getting a massive surprise bill from your telco.”

This is positive for me and I hope it will have a good impact on the adoption rate of bitcoin going forward.
975  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is all what they say about bitcoin true? on: August 09, 2023, 12:34:47 PM
As a newbie on this forum, for some days now I have been going through threads, reading and trying to understand and getting better knowledge on every single one of them
In a thread someone said "Bitcoin is not all about happiness" can a little more light be thrown on this?
My simplest tip for you is to save and study every sentence you hear, read and do research to find out the truth.
During my journey in the crypto space, I have found joy in the convenience I have found with bitcoin. And with bitcoin, I found a space of freedom that can define the best financial system without a lot of worries.

People who say Bitcoin is not about happiness, of course he has other thoughts in interpreting this sentence. And I also find freedom here as long as I don't violate the rules that have been set.
Here I found a knowledge space filled with an atmosphere of familiarity and mutual encouragement to achieve a goal.
You will later get answers to the meaning of a bitcoin for you as long as you are willing to spend a little time here from the routine that you live every day.
976  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [diskusi] Bagaimana Cara Mengatur Waktumu di Forum? on: August 09, 2023, 10:40:03 AM
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-snip- Saya pikir kadang kala rasa bosan yang menghampiri kita yang akan membuat kita jenuh untuk melakukan postingan.
Secara umum saya tidak akan membantah karena itu tergantung pada pengaturan dan manajemen kita.
Rencana terburuk yang pernah ditemukan oleh kita adalah rasa bosan. Dikala itu menghampiri, manajemen terbaik yang sudah dan sering kita gunakan akan berantakan semuanya. Pernah hingga berjam-jam tidak satupun postingan ngalir seperti biasa.
Kalau dipaksa menulis, bisa kacau dan kualitas postingan jauh dari yang diharapkan. Ketika orang lain membaca, mereka bisa menilai bahwa agan ini hanya menulis untuk memenuhi kouta postingan pada kampanye yang dipromosikan.

Dipatok ayam itu kebiasaan orang yang sering bangun siang, tapi nampaknya kalau kita sebagai pelaku crypto nampaknya itu tidak terlalu berlaku. Ibarat kata dulu itu agar kita menjadi anak yang rajin. Artinya yang sekolah yang bekerja di dunia nyata memiliki persiapan lebih matang, lebih mantap.
Sedangkan untuk kita sebagai orang crypto/forum yang bisa dilakukan 24/7. Jadi kita juga bisa fleksibel menyesuaikan dengan kondisi kita, hanya perlu bersungguh-sungguh melaksanakan.  (IMO)
Ane anggukkan kepala om sambil tersenyum karena kata rezeki dipatok ayam tidak bisa dan sudah tidak relevan lagi dengan cara dan gaya generazi Z dalam mencari rezeki.
Kita yang di forum dan giat dengan kripto cocok disebut usaha cerdas.
977  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [diskusi] Bagaimana Cara Mengatur Waktumu di Forum? on: August 08, 2023, 01:00:17 PM
Saya pribadi juga bisa dikatakan sedikit malas apalagi saat masih sekolah dan kuliah banyak sekali tugas yang saya kerjakan saat deadline, entah menjadi kebiasaan atau bagaimana hampir semua masyarakat kita lebih menunda untuk mengerjakan sesuatu hingga deadline tiba. Saya sudah mengubah pola kebiasaan buruk saya terutama untuk mengatur waktu di forum, sudah ada manajemen waktu yang harus saya gunakan untuk membuat postingan atau aktif di forum di jam - jam tertentu agar tidak buru saat akhir pekan dan jumlah postingan belum tercapai.
Kebiasaan buruk memang perlu dirubah kalau tidak bisa keburu dipatok ayam rezekinya.
Kebiasan yang agan amanda90 katakan saat masih sekolah dan kuliah pernah saya alami juga. Mungkin karena watak yang tidak suka diatur membuat kita senang dengan kebiasaan buruk seperti suka kelayapan, malam tidurnya hampir subuh yang membuat paginya terlambat.

Mungkin ada baiknya mengatur manajemen waktu, misalnya di pagi hari harus membuat satu atau dua postingan setiap harinya dan begitu juga di waktu siang dan malam hari. Dengan begini kita tidak terburu - buru untuk membuat postingan dan effektif mengatur waktu di forum bitcointalk dan juga memiliki waktu teratur untuk hal - hal yang lainnya, seperti libur akhir pekan dengan keluarga atau mengerjakan pekerjaan sampingan lainnya.
Kalau sudah bisa mengatur seperti ini pola kerjanya, saya pikir sudah cukup bagus.
Postingan yang bisa dibuat dalam rentang waktu sedemikian rupa harus dikerjakan lewat smartphone, tidak mungkin bisa dilakukan dengan menggunakan PC atau komputer.
Bagi teman yang hari-harinya bekerja di cafe, klinik, karyawan toko akan sangat terbantu. Saya pikir ada kendala juga jika dilakukan dengan hp. Kendalanya mungkin pada pengetikan karena tombol ketik terlalu kecil.
978  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: August 08, 2023, 12:29:42 PM
If you are accumulating bitcoins on a daily basis, you are doing very well.You are right that Bitcoin is getting cheap at the moment and whoever invests here will make a good profit in future.If there is a tradition of saving money in your environment, then investing this saved money in Bitcoin is likely to bring the best result.Buying and holding Bitcoin at the current price is a good strategy because the bear season is not over yet.Surely you will be able to earn a good profit in the bull season from your strategy,and most importantly, your chosen coin for investment is very reliable and has potential.
I will always be happy if someone is willing to get used to saving for future financial arrangements, especially if the savings are in the form of investments. People like that have done their best in terms of financial management. There is something that tickles my curiosity, namely bitcoin investment. There is no guarantee that investing in bitcoin can bring in profits faster than other types of investments made by him that might be able to bring in profits or the price will go up faster.

As a hedge against fiat currency, it must be admitted that bitcoin is one of the best investments that I know of so far.
Think again about what I said. If wrong, correct by replying here.
979  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can you tell me the best indicator for long term investment? on: August 08, 2023, 11:46:02 AM
As the title says, I hope some of you can share your experience about the best indicators for your long term investment.
Investment with trading there is a difference in implementation. If you choose to invest, then in theory you don't really need indicators. You just buy regularly when the price is considered cheap.
Usually, indicators are needed by traders to analyze prices such as technical indicators suggested in every article about trading.
Those of you who choose to invest long term, maybe the DCA pattern can be used.

So far I've only invested on a cyclical basis, but I'd love to get your experience into consideration for my future investment plans.
From a cyclical perspective, now could be the best indicator to buy as bitcoin's price action is still under $30,000.
980  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has nothing to do with crime on: August 08, 2023, 11:09:26 AM
Because of bitcoin does not give public details of people who make transaction with it, some people do say it promote crime. People needs to understand one of the features of bitcoin is freedom that anybody can get access to it, it does not discriminate.  The privacy features of bitcoin is very important to humanity,  which I know one of its advantage is for safety by using cryptography that makes all transactions safe and encrypted.

Privacy in transactions of bitcoin is much important,  if their was no privacy it would have cause several criminal attacks.  For those who think bitcoin encourages crime because of hiding  public data of users don't understand the importance of bitcoin being private.  Before bitcoin  started  existing monetary crime have been existing.  Bitcoin is not a reason for monetary crime,  bitcoin is just for everyone and does not discriminate but accept everyone.
They never want to accept bitcoin because bitcoin is able to open the door of freedom to anyone so those who don't support bitcoin will always frame the public that bitcoin can bring crime even though the reality is not true.
The privacy features possessed by bitcoin will never be able and never want to be implemented by their mainstay system that hates bitcoin.
Privacy is an important element that is highly prioritized by everyone in securing and protecting their assets.

There is no other right way to keep people away from bitcoin other than spreading that bitcoin is a crime even though the system that is exalted by bitcoin haters has committed crimes against many people and has never been responsible for their crimes.
Bitcoin was a masterpiece and is still the best in the history of the financial system.
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