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961  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Hati-hati] Stuck Transaksi Bitcoin on: April 28, 2021, 04:19:26 PM
Ane juga mengalami stuck transaksi ketika di transfer ke Indodax, namun uda lama sih sebelum kasus Blackout di China. Faktanya, memang karna fee yang digunakan adalah yang paling murah om. Soalnya ane rada pelit juga sih haha, yang di tf juga dikit jadi fee yang dipilih juga sesuai budget. Alhasil, nyangkut deh semingguan. Cukup kapok sih, pakai fee kecil untuk transfer.
962  Economy / Economics / Re: Are some too blind to see? on: April 28, 2021, 03:43:59 PM

Whatever if it's Tesla or Microstrategy, do you really believe them when they brag on Twitter saying "we're here for a long time! HODL!"?
Nope, they're here to make profits, not for charity. They will take any opportunity to make money, no matter how the market is going. They will keep buying and selling later.
(I read that the Tesla company sold 10% of its bitcoin portfolio)


Just as the majority of people in the crypto sphere: only interested in speculating on Bitcoin and a big bag of shitcoins, but have zero real use.
A lot of them don't even have their own wallet, they keep storing their coins in exchange platforms and use it as their first and unique wallet.

Just as Tesla did and let be honest, in their own shoes we would do the same. Unless you don't want that your company makes money.
This said, companies shouldn't be blamed because they're 'full of money and own thousands and thousands of BTC. I believe it's called the "success".
If we are not rich like them, blame ourselves

Unfortunately, many new traders think they are here to continue to hold onto BTC.  Even though clearly, the crypto market is a very liquid hangs market with very high volatility.  They understand very well that this is not a long-term type of market like gold and stocks.  They are here to create trends and issues so that prices go up crazy since their arrival and then they sell their top assets.  This is a very common strategy but it is considered charity.
963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: April 28, 2021, 02:38:33 PM
MU coach must have the right strategy to win both matches, the European league to get champions title this year, against Liverpool must win to keep a point distance from Leicester which is currently only 5 points.
Winning against Liverpool is very possible especially playing at home, but Liverpool will not easily give up even they are not in good form however that is not a guarantee of win for Man United.
Liverpool really need three points left five match because they want to get place on champion league next season, I think why Liverpool very bad performance this season because loss many important player by injury. The liverpool management not serious to get replace player and only buy cheap and free transfer player and make Liverpool not enough strong on defender position.
Liverpool is completely devastated at this season. None of their forward and defense lineup is stable. They are responsible for such a poor performance this season. If they want to perform well next season, they need some experienced players in their squad, and they have to strengthen the team's defense. And of course the game strategy has to change. Otherwise, we will not find Liverpool in the top 3 teams next season.

Liverpool should not have taken cover on the grounds that the team suffered many injuries so that their performance was poor.  They are too spoiled to take cover with that word.  The team that is not injured should have the opportunity to keep doing well as their portfolio in the market.  Unfortunately the team didn't see that.  Is Liverpool's fate only supported by the injured team?  So weak management strategy if it makes Liverpool in the hands of only a few people.  The team should remain solid for their defense and attack.
964  Economy / Economics / Re: Big test for Bitcoin during the next Economic Collapse. on: April 27, 2021, 02:05:57 PM
We can always see that kind of opportunity if we do have money to invest, being experience as an investor or trader, we definitely have an idea already on how to make the right decision, and usually when the price dip, it's easy to make a decision to buy and selling at a profit is not also a problem since we believe that soon the price will correct and we will be able to start accumulating again.

Just doing the same strategy over and over, it would already make us financially successful here.

Oh really? You re great,bro. As long as I'm a investor and trader cant say that make financial decision is easy because as long as I work as a profesional traders, I'm still bad for executing the theory. Buy or sell at the lowest and highest price have some pshcology result. When you have much money and you can control ur own story.
965  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: April 26, 2021, 02:55:25 PM
Congrat to manchester city to be EFL champion, you deserve it to streak 4 years. Pep is a genius coach who got 4x Trophy and to be the first one who got the winning streak 4 years.

this looks interesting when you write on google search "EFL final" then you could find the celebrate gif on the page.



This is one of the victories of several that will soon be pinned to Man City.  The EFL has ended beautifully for Pep Guardiola's team.  Furthermore, the EPL trophy will also be owned by City, a difference of 10 points is enough to provide a little sense of security for City over its current weight.  United also seem very excited to catch up.
966  Economy / Economics / Re: Big test for Bitcoin during the next Economic Collapse. on: April 26, 2021, 02:10:38 PM
I remember last year when it crashed that was a blissful moment for me, it was a pandemic deal and I am sorry for all the lives lost to it, and I know it was all around a horrible year so far, but I have managed to buy bitcoin for very cheap and watch it do 10x right away, that is why I like bitcoin, if you know when to buy you could make a good profit.

This is why I buy every time it falls, if it is a 10%+ fall I will buy it, if it is 20%+ fall I will buy more and it goes on like that. At the end of the day I believe bitcoin will be doing fine, so why would I get scared and sell? It will recover one way or another.

You're so lucky enough, not everyone have ability to take a decision for buying at lowest price and selling at highest price. If they can take it, they dont have money to buy it hahaha. Thats happen on me. Sometimes I really watch the candle when the market was bearish, and talk to my heart if I have money, this is the right time to buy them at cheaper. 
967  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which other company will support Bitcoin next? on: April 26, 2021, 01:37:44 PM
Don't forget though, people in this space. All the Tiktok videos and influencers and gamers and redditors. These are nerds and geeks like us who actually do love Elon Musk and Tesla. They respect him.

I am not sure Apple is as well loved or respected, in fact I see it get a lot of hate.

It'll be a different thing if Apple adopts BTC because Microsoft did it in the past too remember?

In the investment world, I dont think that love or hate on a individual can be a indicator to push the market. But, who is the whale and what the whale said is the biggest issue that really can influence the market. The point is who have much money and be the whale in this market, thats enough! No matter, he is hated or not. As long, he buy many BTC, it means he support the price.

Oh but it can. Elon Musk was loved by a lot and he has a very influential following that also has a knock on effect. If this was Amber Heard Tweeting about DOGE, or some equally hated rich person like say Ed Woodward, you think people would be breaking down the walls to buy DOGE? No way jose:)


Elon Musk can push the market because he is one of the whales. He is loved because He support the crypto market and be one of the investor. For the popular conglomerate, Elon really have the influence because of his choice and his mind about Crypto Meanwhile there are many crazy rich that never interested with Crypto such as Warren Buffet. He is enough hated by many crypto investor, but what He said cant give any influence for market, right ?
968  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which other company will support Bitcoin next? on: April 25, 2021, 03:02:15 PM
After the Tesla announcement, I was looking forward to Apple Company being the next giant company that will go and uses bitcoin, as the Apply company I just think that bitcoin will fully suit Apple.

I mean Apple is of the top giant companies and seeing this company invest in bitcoin will surely be big news in the cryptocurrency community just like what happened on Tesla.

We can easily see a push in  the  price of  bitcoin  and I think that  could potentially be the reason why bitcoin will reach 100k$ in the market and even more because of this company.

Don't forget though, people in this space. All the Tiktok videos and influencers and gamers and redditors. These are nerds and geeks like us who actually do love Elon Musk and Tesla. They respect him.

I am not sure Apple is as well loved or respected, in fact I see it get a lot of hate.

It'll be a different thing if Apple adopts BTC because Microsoft did it in the past too remember?

In the investment world, I dont think that love or hate on a individual can be a indicator to push the market. But, who is the whale and what the whale said is the biggest issue that really can influence the market. The point is who have much money and be the whale in this market, thats enough! No matter, he is hated or not. As long, he buy many BTC, it means he support the price.
969  Economy / Economics / Re: Big test for Bitcoin during the next Economic Collapse. on: April 25, 2021, 01:51:38 PM
Of course this will only happen when Bitcoin recovers and is in a bullish trend, because while it is in correction it is difficult for altcoins to recover, since they depend directly on the movements of Bitcoin, before making decisions about altcoins, it is good to study bitcoin and the possible movements.

I couldn't agree more, I wanna add another altcoin that have a good recovery is WAVES. In crypto espesially altcoin, I'm prefer to make speculation than invest them for long term. But for Bitcoin, I keep for long term. BNB, ADA, ETH, LTC, WAVES are my favorite altcoin, they gave me much profit. But this is just available when Bitcoin market is bullish too. Now we can look the market, BTC in several days ago, getting bearish and all of my altcoin got the impact too. So, we have to be smart for making a financial decision.
970  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid virus 2021 on: April 25, 2021, 01:01:02 PM
That's the scenario in your country. In my country similar is the situation and people aren't ready to believe in the vaccine, because many people died after the vaccination.

That's so bad, may I know what is the brand of the vaccine which is spreaded by your Government? Because, last week my mother is forced by the government to be vaccinated. In my country, the vaccine that is spreaded is Sinovac. When I read what you wrote, that makes me feel worry to my mom. I really hope that everything gonna be okay soon. Although, we have found the vaccine but Covid-19 still infected many people in every country. This is really bad.
971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: April 25, 2021, 12:15:40 PM
Leeds - United , both team to score ? This is what I thought yesterday with Betis and Real and it ended 0-0 and both teams had a great scoring season so far and yet they made that 0-0. Why can't this game  be the same ? They have nothing to fight for as Leeds cannot catch a Europe spot and United cannot miss the top 4 no matter what so this might be a game that a 0-0 could happen anytime and I'm staying away from it.

This match will be exicting because this is clear, who will be the next winner? United is still on fire because for several match that have been held, United always end as a winner. Leeds need more genius stategy if they wanna beat the team. United have many good players, Paul Pogba, Mason and their striker Edinson can't let their team is beated by Leed certainly. I'm so sure to bet for United, and I guess that this match will end with score 0-2.
972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: April 24, 2021, 04:41:31 PM
The points are shared at Anfield, a dramatic equalizer from Willock on the 90+5 after wilson equalizer was disallowed on the 90+2. What a game! Another set back for Liverpool champions league spot battle. That was a good point for Newcastle as they left the relegation battle for good after 3 weeks of impressive games.
this was a game that made me very sad and disappointed, i was already celebrating that at least liverpool would have won 3 points, it was disappointing to see that newcastle goal and destroying liverpool's hope. liverpool is not doing well this season, the defense of liverpool is not doing well, it is very bad and even sad to watch every game in liverpool, they are looking like the teams of my country. it looks like a big nightmare
There is no hope for Liverpool this season the worse the game here indicates that their squad is no longer able to sustain as a great team now they have to fight for the top 4 very difficult where their sadness will bring about a nightmare.
Indeed, I had a little hope when the bets had been placed and thought that playing at Anfield was Liverpool that could bring good points, but this was a little ruined at the end of the game which made the players sick to see a draw.
In fact, I was boring watching the match earlier.

At the beginning, I think that Liverpool have a hope to reach the top 4 by a goal from Salah. As the statistic showed that Liverpool has 69% ball possession, 9 shot goal, they have played better but the execute for the goal is not good. Klopp really felt disappointed because of this match, He said that He's give up to bring the team for the top 4. Really hurt for Liverpool.
973  Economy / Economics / Re: Government policies help to grow the price of bitcoin on: April 24, 2021, 03:26:51 PM
There are only 50% chances as everything could be done under P2P which means governments and their central bank will lose all the control because P2P may evolve like decentralized exchanges and decentralized  marketplace. Still in marketplace, I guess governments may innovate new ideas to monitor and control for taxation hence if they ban then no benefits and if they stay neutral or positive then there are possibilities for generating revenues.

Yap, that's why my government didn't forbid the crypto investment in my country because they get the benefit of every transactions that happen in the exchangers. Tax that is collected from the exchangers can be used for many programs of government. Even my president said that learning about crypto is important for millenials. I really appreciate my president talks about freedom in investment.
974  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid virus 2021 on: April 24, 2021, 02:25:00 PM
Where are you from if you don't mind me asking? We've seen similar examples from Israel and United Kingdom that vaccination has been effective so far. That's our only way out of this pandemic. Vaccines have been effective in diminishing many infectious diseases in the past and it's our only weapon to fight Covid-19.

Unfortunately, most European countries are way behind in their vaccination program, I hope that this situation changes throughout the summer.

We have a different story about the implementation of vaccine in my country.The society didnt believe on the government with the vaccine. So, they rejected to be vaccinated and they told to others that this is just conspiracy. Covid is Hoax. How bad the condition in my country, right? This is why, there are many patients because of infected the Covid-19 at my country. The case is still high although vaccine has been spreaded to the society. School is still closed, and the students become more stupid.
975  Economy / Economics / Re: Big test for Bitcoin during the next Economic Collapse. on: April 24, 2021, 12:46:53 PM
Many may be lowering the price to buy cheaper, I have seen in some forum threads that every time there is a higher percentage of decrease they buy cheaper bitcoin, it seems to me that it is a very good strategy and worthy of intelligent people, for now Better for many is to be out of the market and look for another entry that is good, the market always gives it, so take courage.

Thats really make sense because when I didn't take a decision for cutting lose my altcoin, I felt that If I have some fresh money this is the right time to buy them for lower price and what I think comes true, Crypto's price getting high for several hours later. We face the new days for crypto when the volatility become faster than before. In 24 hours, we can take profit 25-30% or we can get lose 25-30% in a day. We have to be smart for taking a decision, when you should buy or sell.
976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: April 24, 2021, 07:30:29 AM
+Westham vs Chelsea: Chelsea are through to the FA cup finals beating Manchester city, and now in same points with westham by a disappointing draw to Brighton, I think this is a case of destiny in there own hands, my prediction is a draw.

I think so, this match will end in draw. Chealsea is a unstable team because when they played with man united, they beat the team in the FA Cup but when Chealsea played with West Brom, they were beated by the team. Meanwhile, WestHam have the same record too, have been beated by the low board team. This match will be really boring.
977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: April 24, 2021, 04:04:46 AM
Everton success scored 1 goal because blunder of Leno on 76', this is very bad things for Arsenal, while they are struggled to make a score, they makes own goal to help everton have a chance to bring 3 points on this match.

BTW, Arsenal fans also asking Kroenke out

Leno literally just gifted Everton the 3 points, It was a terrible goal to concede, I'm strongly opined that the game would have ended goalless, that'd at least a point for Arsenal if it weren't for that costly mistake.

Arsenal are 9 points away from the 5th position having even played one game more, I'd say that's it for their hope of playing in Europe next season, but except if they're able to win the Europa League.
Arsenal  team as a whole played badly today their attack was blunt no serious  pressure mounted Everton defence with as many goal attempt with few in target Arsenal players are always prone to errors and mistakes which often lead to their opponent scoring against them Xhaka was cheaply dribbled and Leno commited a stupid mistake that lead the goal thus making Arsenal their own worst enemy.


I didn't think it would end so badly.  Starting in the 30th minute, Leno was very successful at keeping the net for a curling attack from Ricardlison, but the last minute led to disappointment.  I'm sure, today Leno feeling devastated by his negligence to control the ball.  Everton have an extra point and Arsenal will have to get lower point. Hopefully Leeds don't win from Man United because if Leeds win then Arsenal's position will go down.  Arsenal's points are the same as Leeds' points, it is likely that Leeds will also have difficulty against the Top 2 Team.
978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: April 23, 2021, 03:07:27 PM
Today it's better to refrain from betting on the match, but Everton has a very nice odds - 3.9, while bookmakers give 2.1 for an Arsenal win...
I think Arsenal may well lose because they have a Europa League game coming up... Wink
Quite reasonable analysis, however Arsenal game vs Villarreal in EL will take place after 6 days so they will not fear from exhausting their players. Their main concern is injury. Everton is a good team and is able to win vs Arsenal. Hard to decide which one will win but draw + BTTS seems very possible for me.

This match was quite unpredictable because statistically they were just as strong even with only 3 points difference. They will be more likely to end up in a draw. But if you really have to choose, based on the results of previous matches, Arsenal have a better chance because this match takes place at home.
979  Economy / Economics / Re: Thị trường chốt lời on: April 23, 2021, 01:58:33 PM
Cash flow is flowing into cryptocurrencies through price drops. Tether has printed a lot of USDT and investment funds have confirmed their investment. Also, the adoption of cryptocurrencies by Visa, PayPal and banks' money transfer services is a favorable condition for the cryptocurrency market to expand.
Even though the news is clear, we cannot take crypto charts lightly. It is relatively accurate data and we need to pay attention to have a reasonable investment strategy.

Now there are no objective reasons for a further decline in the price of bitcoin. When the price drops to 51-52 thousand dollars, traders start actively buying BTC, because this price is very attractive for investors. If you compare BTC with the stock market, you can see that the S&P 500 index shows a recoilless growth. I expect the same growth for bitcoin.

It seems that you still have a reason for the decline in BTC in the future, namely the panic attack by new players. The crypto trend is very hype lately because they only see profits that are gradual for quite a long time, but these new players don't realize the price can fall 30% and go up another 30% in just 24 hours. If panic fills him, even his fingers immediately tremor to press the sell button. Market has been bearish these days. You can see the history of existing transactions, many of which sell and after the price drops, many more buy until they go up again.
980  Economy / Economics / Re: Big test for Bitcoin during the next Economic Collapse. on: April 23, 2021, 11:30:27 AM
I think that bitcoin is currently taking a natural and slight correction, some think that it can reach levels of $ 43k- $ 46k, Peter Brandt believes that it can reach those price levels in retracement because normally a retracement after an ATH usually goes down a 35%.

Seeing the condition of Bitcoin in this provision, the correction continues until my own assets have decreased by 25%.  This is quite terrible, but I have only cut losses several times for coins which I consider to be very heavy losses.  Not to mention that it is exacerbated by the news that Warren Buffet is emphasizing again and again that Crypto is just gambling and will get worse as long as this correction occurs.  This crypto has no productive value so it's all clear gambling.  I sometimes wonder when he changes his mind.
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