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961  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: May 17, 2017, 09:50:27 AM
I have been told that don't accept payments via paypal, is that right?
Because when buyer will have his bitcoins then he can claim back money from paypal by saying that i haven't received desired product.

This is real happening, even up to now there are some individuals saying the same what you had mentioned. Hoping that this things won't happen to anyone, though paypal up to now was being useful and bitcoin  also give a good experience to anyone through its features and usages of bitcoin.

In online business, before PayPal is the only method, we had to accept or send our payments. and yes this type of issues are there in PayPal transaction. So many people hate doing business with PayPal. Bitcoin transaction this type of problems not there and it is a safe and fast transaction.
962  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many ways are there to earn bitcoins? on: May 17, 2017, 09:40:41 AM
Here 100 ideas for earning bitcoins. look at this thread if you have new idea give it to thread owner he will update it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777912.0
Thanks for this, i think op will have a hard time doing this 100 ways on how to earn bitcoin, 2 days in not enough to try them all. Op might choose what ways is the fastest to earn bitcoins.
The OP doesn't need to read it all because he can get a fast results if he will do trading because trading is one of the best way to earn or grow our bitcoin because you just need a small capital and after that you can test and take risk in trading and after you get experience and knowledge then it will be enough for you to make a living like my traders friend currently doing.
This thread is very useful for newbies. He mentioned almost all methods in his list how to earn bitcoins. But in that list only a few of them all people can do rest of all we need knowledge on that method. Trading is the first and best option to make bitcoin. Just invest a small amount and start to earn coins.
963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: May 17, 2017, 09:36:24 AM
Well got it wrong , the way Mumbau bowled I thought they had complete chance to win the match . Though in last 2 overs Dhoni smashed the ball and payed very well still just 160 on board it was easy win for Mumbai . But way Pune bowled and fielded showed they were better ystd then Mumbai . Let see who reaches to final .


Actually, in yesterday's match, we should appreciate Pune bowlers because even though the total runs was not so high but every bowler bowled very well and restricted MI and the main thing is they took wickets regularly. Let's see whether MI will qualify for final's or not.

In today's match, I think Hyderabad will win this match even though KKR team is strong. What did you guy think about this match?

I had expected this match when the score crossed 160 runs, and Smith is captain for Pune bt Dhoni handled the team. He is an amazing player come, captain. Mumbai showed overconfidence, so they lost the game. They thought the target is less we can chase that score. So they played lazy batting and lost the game.
964  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: May 17, 2017, 09:23:26 AM
Bitcoin will definitely rise in long term so if you can hold your bitcoins till that point of time then I think you can buy certain amount of bitcoins even now as it will surely give you profits in long term and there are very less chances that price will crash now so I think its a good time to buy some more bitcoins.
Wow this is a smart choice of moves. I appreciate and I am hopeful that by the mid of the next year the prices of the Bitcoin maybe around $3000 and if china or any other country like Japan accepts and adopt the Bitcoin the price will go higher soon. I am pretty much optimistic regarding the adoption of BTC by other countries which will lead to the prices go high.


It is likely that in the middle of this year bitcoin prices will have a high level, but this is of course just a prediction and analysis only. Because it is not a clear certainty about raising bitcoin prices.
That prediction would not be possible if it has no good basis but the way I see it the value of bitcoin will rise substantially this year because of the possible global adoption started by big countries. Value that we see now is real, it is not a bubble for me because it is an effect of an speculation of massive adoption.
Adoption for bitcoin is one of the cause why the price of bitcoin is getting higher and higher and now the price is almost $2,000 per bitcoin and i also believe that it is not a hype or a bubble price because as long as there is a lot of active people and country that using bitcoin then there the price will not pop out or have a dump.

Price is around $1700 at a moment and it will take a long time to touch the price of $2000 and that is possible in coming months as the demand of bitcoins is getting higher and higher and there are many new investors who are willing to invest their money in bitcoins which is taking price higher continuously.
in present time i am not even thinking about to sell my bitcoins i have to stay for next few months. because i am full confident that the price of bitcoin is still going to increase.  i am sure that at the end of 2017 the price of bitcoin will be trading above 3000 USD level. and that is the reason that i am going to hold my bitcoin tell the price goes to high. 
Last year we expected $1500+ per 1 BTC. Now it crossed this target and this year beginning we expected this year end the price will reach $2k, but if we see the present situation the mid of the year only, we reach this target. So expecting $3000 is good but don't hope more because in Bitcoin we will get more disappointment.
965  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: May 17, 2017, 09:17:08 AM
Bitcoin:

Speed Up and down of price via online users/holders
More user the higher bitcoin will be.
Online transfer/hassle free
No identity
Maybe no company? cause where are the own boss here.

Real money:

Slow/ its Depend in state or other country if the value will raise..
Has more user than bitcoins users
Fiat/ paper money, can be hassle free ( cash on delivery )
Your info captured via bank, the person you paid..
lot of Company use real money / Daily lives / you can be own boss

Not just lot of company use fiat currency, 100% of companies will do business with this fiat currency. Only the start up companies is entertaining this bitcoin now. Other than this all reputed companies prefer only fiat currency business it is legal and they will not get any problem from govt, so they prefer fiat currency.
966  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: May 17, 2017, 09:14:09 AM
What I like most best about in bitcoin was the Decentralization it has, because no one has a capacity to control it, even the government
of each countries can't do it, that's why they haven't get any benefit from it. And second was its flexibility, and being pseudonymous was a good one too for bitcoin.
I agree on that. Using decentralized coin is a lot overwhelming to use since you can do what ever you want and you can transact as much as you want without being regulated or controlled by the government. This is great for every traders whose seeking freedom in making transactions.
Decentralised is the one of the major reason why people are addicted to this bitcoin. And apart from this, it is easy to use, and we can transfer any amount of bitcoin in just a few seconds. There is no much transaction fee, and it's fixed fee. And more over us no need to pay tax to governament this is big savings for bitcoin users.
967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your best luck and worst luck gambling experience? on: May 17, 2017, 09:10:08 AM
I'm new to the bitcoin/altcoin gambling scene and so far so good, I haven't been lucky enough to win a huge amount. I think my best so far was winning 0.03btc from a 0.001 free bet I got from Bitdouble at a win chance of 49%.  I only joined btc gambling in November/December 2016 so I've got little or no story to tell. Right now, I lost so hard that I begin to think If Bitcoin gambling games are truly "Probably Fair"
My best experience is i won in a dice game. I only started a smaller bet then i try my luck, ive won thrice of my initial deposit value. Im so happy for a first time gambler , and then i tried it again and again, maybe my luck wasnt good enough so i lose my money thats the funny experience then. But i gamble again and be wiser than before, i have to learn from it and earning again. Little by little i bet for assurance. Im enjoying gambling.
Beginners will make a profit in the beginning time, not only you most of the newbies had this experience. And because of this experience only we will play gambling again and again. Suppose if we get lost in our first bet most of the people will never try again to play. But I don't know how it works. Maybe new accounts will win first 3 or 4 bets it maybe system setup or what I don't know.
968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: May 14, 2017, 12:12:09 PM
U better gamble and invest in shit altcoins or gamble in casinos/poker

well when you talk about long term, gambling shouldn't be part of the story. you can stay in the gambling industry though buy buying stocks and investing in casinos and gambling sites but never when you're playing. it would be too easy to lose money that way and instead of earning in the long run, its a shortcut to bankruptcy
Staying for long term in gambling is not good unless you have a good skills and analysis through gambling on which you will play only if there is a big chance for you to win .
It is not better to gamble and invest in shitcoins you are only wasting your money in a nonsense thing it is much better to giveaways your money to the poor if you will only do that .
Both methods are a waste of money and time. yes gambling never gives you profit in the long term. Either you are a pro in gambling or not. But it only gives you fun. You want entertainment then play gambling. And investing in shit coins also a waste of money instead of wasting money to invest in these coins better save it in your wallet future you will make a good profit.
969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: May 14, 2017, 12:08:22 PM
Such a tense day today for both Pune and Kings who need to desperately win this game to qualify. Kings have won back to back three games while even Pune have been winning big matches. Today Stokes, Dhoni, Smith from Pune and Singh, Marsh, Sharma and Maxwell from Kings XI will be the ones to watch out for. Only thing that may matter is the game is in Pune.

Looks like supergiants have gotten better of Kings XI. 56 for 6 after 10 overs is a pretty good sign for supergiants. I want them to win because they have the strength to defeat KKR in the eliminator.
Do or Die match for both teams, but Punjab failed in batting. They got all out for just 73 runs. Superb bowling from supergiants. And now this match become one sided game Pune will qualify semi finals. Today's another match RCB vs. DD both teams out of this tournaments lets RCB at least win his last match, or they will lose this game also.
970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best Gambling Movie on: May 14, 2017, 12:03:57 PM
What is that 21 movie is that the complete movie title? Id just watch King of gamblers and i really loved it they can make the card be changed for real those powers so amusement Tongue is anybody here can do that? Not only in the movie but in real life,
Ys 21 is the movie name there is no other title for this movie. You just type 21 in google you will get the movie details. It is a fantastic movie for gamblers. The director narrated story with the point of how real gambler will cheat casino's and what all problems he will face if the casino knows that he is cheating.


971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: May 14, 2017, 11:59:18 AM
Got 2 games for today

West Ham - Liverpool,  over 1.5 goals
Tottenham - Manchester United,  both teams to score
Both are good matches. First game Liverpool must win to take place in top 4 position is this possible? West Ham is tough competition for Liverpool I don't know how they will play today. I don't have hopes that they win this game. But over 1.5 goals is a good pick. And other game Tottenham will win this game both teams score is a good choice.
972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you guys think about Casino and dice games? on: May 14, 2017, 11:54:57 AM
I understand your concern, most of the legit casino has a provably fair and can be tested, that is why reputation is very important when you choose the place to play, if you dont understand and dont like sport, you wont win anything because the odds is small and you dont know which one to bet
Yes sports gambling is not suited for if you are not interested in sports. You must understand the game rules and regulations and team performance and players form. If you know these things, then you are eligible to do sports betting. If you don't know this then better stay away from this sports betting it is not worth for you.
973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: May 14, 2017, 11:51:10 AM
Gambling is wrong to the people who is not favor in gambling.
But to the gamblers it is right,because they think they earn at this kind of job.
Gambling is wrong when you do this as a lifestyle.You cannot have the assurance that money will come to you everyday.
When you focus all your attentoin to gambling you may lost your treasure.
Absolutely right. I also give same opinion about gambling. Gambling experience depends only yourself how you accept it.
Gambling is not wrong if you know what gambling is and its depends in all gamblers because there's some saying that gambling is wrong because they lose and sometimes there's someone saying that gambling is not wrong because gambli g bring them more profits
See depend on your real experience you will get to know whether gambling is wrong or right. As you said who all made a profit in gambling, they will say gambling is not wrong, and it gave me more easy money. And other people say gambling is wrong I lost my money and my loved once etc. See the experience will decide gambling is wrong or right.
974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: May 14, 2017, 11:48:02 AM
Actually it is hard to stop gambling for good. Its is best to stop little by little not to gamble with determination and patience that you will overcome the addiction. And, much better to find other things you focuse to do so you will not think anymore to gamble. For sure you will forgot to played on.

But stopping instantly would save you a lot of money. Also it would be much better for gambler to stop gambling instead of gambling less every day, as he will still want to gamble. Nobody said that it is easy to stop gambling if you are addicted to gambling, but it is possible to do that, that gambler that wants to stop just have to try enough to stop wanting to gamble.

It is tough to stop any addiction be it gambling or any other vice. But its tough to get that person back into normal livelihood and socity again after gambling a lot of money. In true sense they never get accepted in the society because they are gamblers and people hate gambling because it is a sin and it is so. Hence its tough for these people to make new friends and get along with life.

The problem is the out world know that he is addicted to gambling and suffering from gambling and lost everything in gambling. Then it is tough to lead life his life in the same place. Because as you said he couldn't control his emotions and he can't make new friends and some other problems, he will face. For this only solution, he must move out from that place and settle in another place.
975  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: a new strategy for dice (all or nothing or double or nothing!) on: May 14, 2017, 11:43:53 AM
Instead of loosing easy by easy it is much better to place few big bets and get whatever you want to do. I was doing sometimes ago aggressive gambling by doing believe in all in or go home. If the purpose of gambling is more fun and less to make money then careful gambling is always suitable.
The problem with that is that many like to get fun as well out of gambling, after all that is probably the only thing you are going to get out of gambling, but if you make big bets and you lose them then you would have lost a lot of money and will not get any fun.

People gamble either for fun or to make some profit. But this all in a method will not give any fun or profit because as we all know gamblers will not stop even though they will first couple of bets. They will go for more and more, and surely they will lose, and it will happen quite fast in this method. If this is the case of losing money within a couple of minutes, then I don't think any gamblers will enjoy games.
indeed. a couple of losing runs and you may not have anything to bet anymore. though it may seem to work because there will be times you're going to have a lucky day, if 4 or 5 roll losing run hits you, you'd be all out before you even know it
All in we don't get one more chance we put everything on one bet. If we lose that bet that's it no money. if you do this continuously means there is no use. You will not get fun, and you will not make a profit. Just for one lucky day, you have to lose the same amount of money daily. I think All In method is a waste in gambling.
976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: May 08, 2017, 05:21:59 PM
I want SRH to get qualified for TOP 4... without them the tournament wont be that much interesting

Well chances are there SRH will make it easily now since they will beat Mi today and will be better placed on ranking as well. But flyer log time we are seeing so average performance  from Mumbai Indians .


Don't worry about SRH they will qualify top 4 in the list. Mumbai gave just 139 runs target to SRH, and now SRH 99/2, 12 overs completed. They need just 40 runs from 46 balls. Yuvraj is playing, and Dhawan is near to half century so that they will win this match. Mumbai and SRH are confirmed in top 4. let's see the remaining 2 teams who will qualify.
977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: May 08, 2017, 05:14:56 PM
The reason Why I keep coming back is that I'm looking still for fun and amusement. Because it is already gives you happiness whether you don't care if your not winning in the games but sometimes you win which is for it is still nothing but can be a bonus or reward to your play in the gambling.
I think you don't care for money or else you have more money that is why you come back to play gambling for fun. Those who cares for money they will not take a risk once they lose money in gambling. The last line is correct the winning amount in gambling is bonus or reward points in gambling. You will not get this every game.
978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: May 08, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
Chelsea hasn't lost against Middlesbrough since 2006, they have since won all games that they have played against them and not even drawn a single them against them I am tipping  win for Chelsea which will take them a step closer to the title.
I think with this win Chelsea will win the title. This game is expected. Chelsea has good record against Middlesbrough they can manage to win this game without taking any risk. Suppose if we get any unexpected result in this game, This series will become interesting. Let's see what happen.
979  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know whether its your lucky day? on: May 05, 2017, 06:21:03 PM
Its simple to know which day is your lucky day and which has bad luck day, you earn good amount or you achieve some good thing shows your luck with you but if you fail to get good result is your bad luck

Yes, it's your lucky day if you are experiencing a very good thing and you understand that being lucky is totally different for having a bad day. If you are able to experience a very bad day then expect that it's not your lucky day and you should know that you should stop for that day to save yourself from any mistake that you can commit.

Its 's a lucky day when you did something great on things you failed to before, got an opportunity to won in slots and roulette especially on dice. And lastly when you find a pattern on dice that is effectively working.

It's your lucky day when you won more than to loose in all the luck based games, dice, slots or pyramids. Doubling my bank roll is one of the targets which I want to achieve everyday. So that will be a lucky day.

You're right. Determine whether it was a good day only at the end of this day. And to wake up in the morning and understand if a day is good for you or not is impossible. Luck can come at any moment

Yup we can not predict when our lucky day will come. When we win more games and make a big profit we think it is our lucky day that's it. Other than this there is no way to find which is our lucky day or not. But one thing I want to tell lucky day will not come every day to everyone.
980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: May 04, 2017, 05:31:19 PM
Already 170 and looks like Lions gonna hit more than 200 today. If Finch takes a stand then even Kishan is also capable of hitting some big hits. Rabada got 2 overs left so I guess it'll be a good competition from now.
GL batsman played well and gave a big target to DD 209 runs. Karthik and Raina played well, and in the end, Jadeja made a great finish. But DD is also giving a very strong reply to GL. just with the loss of 1 wicket they made 125 runs 11 overs completed. They need 78 runs from 55 balls. Samson and Pant are playing giving superb entertainment to the crowd. I think DD will win this game.
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