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9621  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty Vs Trading on: April 21, 2019, 04:18:25 AM
Since the last year, the bounty was not profitable again because many projects were ended by scamming many participants. The teams have a delay to pay the participants and only say wait for a while. But trading in the last year is also not profitable, and it is hard to make a profit in the last year if we don't have the skills to determine the right coins.

But when we are in the new year, the situation has changed, and since January-February, trading can allow us to make a profit although its not a bigger profit. And in March until now, trading could be a new chance for us to make a profit because the market can move from the lower price to the higher price. But unfortunately, bounty still the same as the last year.

So it's up to you, whether what you choose, you should know the risk and you should not regret after making a decision.
9622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Outside risk: similarities between gambling and trading? on: April 21, 2019, 02:47:20 AM
I think the similarities between gambling and trading is we can get lose in anytime. We could risk the same things, but we have a chance to make a profit from trading. In my experience, gambling is riskier and danger than trading because in gambling, we don't know when we are lucky, and we can lose all money if we cannot manage and make a limit on every bet.

The main difference I think between the two is that Gambling is purely a fun activity while trading is professional activity. I don't think risk is right factor to differentiate between the two. Trading is as much risky as gambling is when it comes to crypto trading. Cryptocurrencies can fluctuate at higher degrees from small-small news and rumors. That make them very vulnerable investment. Until and unless huge inflow of capital comes to Crypto Market, crypto trading is nothing less than gambling.


It's Interesting you say gambling is fun for you. Some people think it is not fun because it involves investments and rewards.

As regards the part concerning huge flow of capital, I don't think this is necessarily true. Day traders don't really need the huge flow of capital to trade successfully .  They earn reasonably from the regular up and down price movements.

We need to think that gambling is only for fun, nothing less. When it's related to the investment and rewards, there will be a risk with both gambling and trading, and we should prevent the risk.

Traders who use daily trading don't need to use big money to trade because they will have skills to choose the right coins so they can make a profit every day. The profit itself will vary each day because it follows the market movement, but they can get it in every day.

But of course, if a trader can use big money to trade in the daily trading, then we will be able to earn a bigger profit too especially if he can combine all things that he has in trading and that will support him to earn more money.

But in gambling, if you use big money, then it's no guarantee for you to make a profit in the game base on luck.
9623  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Easy strat trading in profit on: April 20, 2019, 02:27:09 PM
who can help me to start trading?)

You can learn to trade by yourself. No need to afraid if you cannot trade with good like other traders. As long as you can learn from many lessons, I am sure that someday, you will become a pro trader. Learning trading itself will need an effort to stay focus and don't give up if we do not yet understand with the lesson.

You have an internet connection that will give you so many good information about trading. All you need to do is learn day by day and keep practice. You will know when the time to buy and sell by practice, the more you practice, the more experience you will get. Besides that, you don't have to scare with the mistake because with making a mistake, you will be able to analyze the mistake so you can find how to avoid that mistake and that will improve your trading skill.
9624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What Cryptocurrencies Should I buy? Building your Portfolio on: April 20, 2019, 11:54:34 AM
I use both short-term and long-term trading, and so far, it works well for me. In the short-term, I use altcoin to trade, and I can make a profit from that. Besides that, I still hold some coins from the last year because the price is going down too deep and makes me still hold, but I am sure that soon, all of the coin prices will increase again.

In the long-term, I choose bitcoin, etherum, litecoin, dash, zec, monero, and other coins as my investment. I did make a lot of money in 2017, and I don't buy too much in the last year but I start to buy again in this year, so I can expect to make a profit again this year or in the next year. I always diversify my investment by choosing the right coin from my analysis because that is my chance to make a profit in the short-term and the long-term.
9625  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Newbies that has interest in trading! on: April 20, 2019, 08:42:20 AM
I am a newbie. I want to trade in this Market. I want suggestion for tread. Which Exchange is best And which token or coin best such kind help i need.     

You already see that many of us discuss the exchanges and I think you can have some idea to join in what exchanges. We recommend binance for new people because that site doesn't need to verify. But if you want to follow the procedure, then you can verify yourself in binance, and you can try to join in the other exchanges.

Bittrex and Poloniex are also the good exchanges, but those sites need verification so you can start to trade. So you already have three exchanges right now, and you can visit one by one of the exchange, and then you can decide on which exchange you want to trade. And if you don't have good skills in trading, perhaps, you should use the small balance to learn about trading.

Don't be afraid if you cannot make a profit because you are still new in trading. You should learn more about trading so you can make your first profit and you should improve your skills by reading, watching, and practicing trading. That will be a good suggestion for you right now.
9626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: thinking quiting after lose on gambling. on: April 20, 2019, 06:16:50 AM
Think before lose on gambling.when i lose then think its not a great discission. Gambling related to lose and win no guaranty must win. So think before gambling.       
When everything loss then you will have to left that because you have no alternative option. You should think before playing game and also you should think while you play and also it is not right to play game with all of your money. You should play game with the money only which you can afford loss.

That is good advice, but unfortunately, not all gamblers realize that. They continue playing gambling because they see that they still have money in the balance. They still want to chase the win money which is harder to win. Thinking quitting after lose is the best thing that we should have because with stop the game for a while, we could arrange the strategy for the other days so we could have another chance to win.

Besides that, by quitting the games, I think we could refresh our mind for a while so we could release the stress we got from gambling. I see that many of us when getting loses in a gambling game, they will get stress too. So we need to solve this before we are going to get another loss.
9627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Outside risk: similarities between gambling and trading? on: April 20, 2019, 04:20:12 AM
I think the similarities between gambling and trading is we can get lose in anytime. We could risk the same things, but we have a chance to make a profit from trading. In my experience, gambling is riskier and danger than trading because in gambling, we don't know when we are lucky, and we can lose all money if we cannot manage and make a limit on every bet.

Both gambling and trading can be a way to make a big profit because when we are winning in the games, or we can sell at a high price, then it means we are making a profit. But many of us are too greedy in gambling and trading and make us get to lose the money. That is what we need to learn so we can prevent the big lose.
9628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your favorite kind of lottery? on: April 20, 2019, 03:06:22 AM
I remember the first time I know gambling games, and I play the lottery. That is the only games I played before I know the dice game.

Related to the answer, here is my answer:
1. Passive. I don't like to guess any ticket that will comes out because it is too hard for me.

2. Higher odds but the lower prize.

3. Between $5-$10

But it could vary depends on the website I use to play the lottery because sometimes I visit a gambling website which has lower odds. So I guess it will depend on the site itself.
9629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fun stuff to do with bitcoin? on: April 19, 2019, 10:04:04 AM
I do agree with people's thinking about gambling was fun stuff to do with bitcoin. In the 2013-2015, there are not many gambling sites (or I was missing something here). And in that time, I remember that doing faucets was a great source to collect satoshi by free and with that faucet, I am sure that people can get many more bitcoin in their wallets.

Cloud mining was the same things as I know that there is too many cloud mining that running for a long time. But after 2015, one by one cloud mining was a scam, and they are run away with the investor's money. And from 2015-until now, gambling is a new fun thing that people still playing. Many of them get lost but they still playing many games just hoping that the next game is their time to get the win.

Everything was changed now but I am sure that we could still get fun stuff to do and we have different things that will make us having fun with that.
9630  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto Market ‘Bullish’ in Wake of Bitcoin’s 20% Surge on: April 19, 2019, 07:10:02 AM
absolutely right and my hope this year that bitcoin can experience a price increase of up to 50% hopefully it can happen because if it happens then there will be a lot of people happy with the increase in the price of bitcoin

Hopely, bitcoin price reach $6000 first and i think its a sign market start to recovery. Many analysis said bitcoin price could rising to $50k end this year and i hope that happen because it will lead others coin price increase

That price will come to us, don't worry about that. We still have time to see the coming, and we can see the bullish market will happen. But I am not sure if the price could rise to $50k at the end of this year because we are far away from that price even for $10k, we still too far. Perhaps, the price will be back to the $6000-$7000 until the middle of this year. And then the price will go up and down in that range, and after that, the price will rise more.

I am sure that many of us still waiting for that moment to happen and now, they still buying bitcoin while the price is down again. We should prepare ourselves for the bullish market and don't be late to sell when it's rise.
9631  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is this legit? on: April 19, 2019, 05:33:51 AM
That is what I called HYIP = High Yield Investment Programs. I have seen these programs for a long time ago, many of them are only scamming people but only a few that can give a nice return for people. But I won't suggest you join them because it's too risky for your money. You don't know how long they can stay online before you can get your investment money plus the profit.

Just stay away from them and don't invest anything to them. There is no big bonus in the short-term in the investment programs, and you should know before it's too late. You can search for more information about HYIP on the internet, and you will find the truth about them. Better to use your money in other things than to invest with them.
9632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The longer you play poker the better you become ? on: April 19, 2019, 04:27:51 AM
Although a little luck is there poker game is not entirely based on luck, you can use some strategies, if you have been playing for a long time and have gain some valuable experience.

I think playing poker for a long time can give you some winning if you can learn from every round so you can improve your skills step by step. It's not easy, but if you have a strong willingness to learn more about poker, you will be able to get a strategy that might work for you. But there is one thing that you should worry about any gambling games, you will spend more money if you stay in a long time and you will have a chance to get lost that money.

My advice is if you want to learn about poker and want to improve your skills, you can try to play poker in the demo and watching the video from youtube so you can get something from the video and you can practice in the demo account or the poker game without using money.
9633  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When did you start trading? on: April 19, 2019, 03:11:55 AM
I started trading in 2015 in my local exchange. I don't know how to trade at that time, and it makes me get some lose. First time I got lost, it makes me stress, and I cannot figure out my mistake, and then in one point, I realize that I sell the coin when the price is down because I do not check the price I bought before. I made many mistakes in the past in trading, and that makes me learn more about trading until now.

I am not a pro trader, but I can make a profit from trading. Perhaps, my income from trading is not too big to compare to the other people, but it's enough for me to cover my daily life and I still have more money to having fun Grin

I still want to improve my skills by learning more lesson in trading especially learning about indicator in the market so I can determine the good time to buy and sell.
9634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you bet on an insect fight? on: April 19, 2019, 02:05:04 AM
In my country, I see games with animals, and they use turtles for games. Who has a turtle that can walk quickly to completion, he will be the winner. You can imagine how long the turtle will walk Grin

The game is just for fun, but I heard that some people use this as a bet and they use money in the game. But I never watched it myself because this game is not popular here.

Another game is a bird contest. People come to one place with their birds, and they listen to the singing of birds and whoever has the longest singing bird will be the winner. I think there are more games using animals that people use in my country, but I don't know too much.
9635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: KYC defeats the purpose of Crypto. Thoughts anyone? on: April 18, 2019, 11:28:08 AM
The KYC process annoys the hell out of me. I remember a time when you could trade coins freely and without owning up to your identity at all. Not that I'm hiding anything, I just don't like every man and his dog having a copy of my government ID - I feel that's very intrusive. I mean the whole idea of cryptocurrency was anonymous peer-to-peer trading without government intervention. Now it seems you can't fart in the wrong direction without someone breathing down your neck.

I mean I get it, exchanges, ICO's, etc, want to be on the safe side -- although what I really object to is these places accepting my crypto first and then telling me that I need to give them a mugshot if I want to use it, or withdraw it again. It's a nightmare.

Anyone else a bit miffed with all this identity craziness we're in right now?

Or am I just being a grumpy old man?


I don't mind doing KYC in every campaign or investing as long as my data is safe.
I don't think you need to worry if you don't want to do it.
and almost at this time, both investors and bounty hunters are always included in KYC in each ico

No one can guarantee that because when the data was shared on the internet, the possibility to get hacked is wide open and it depends on the exchanges, project, or even the other institutions to make sure the data is safe. At least, they can say that all of their customer data information will be saved in a safe place, but they cannot guarantee 100%.

So if you want to do KYC, make sure you know their reason to ask KYC for the members, and I think it is normal if the KYC is applied into the exchanges because the exchanges don't want to get trouble for money laundering or illegal activity from their members. But it still feels not good if give our personal information to other person and that's why if we don't want to apply KYC, we could use decentralize exchanges than to use centralized exchanges.
9636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do your research before investing in ICOs on: April 18, 2019, 09:19:01 AM
Of course, I make research before investing in ICO because if I don't do that, how I can find the good ICO in out there and I can prevent from the scam projects. That is what we need to do if we want to invest in any programs on the internet and real life so we can get more information related to the programs. We can know the details of the project, and it will help us to decide if the project is good or not so we can join it later. But of course, that is not easy to get almost all of the information for the project because the new project doesn't have a history and we need to search it by ourselves.
9637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright claims to be Satoshi? Here is what he should do ... on: April 18, 2019, 08:08:14 AM
Why claim that you are Satoshi and promote BSV when you have 1 mln BTC locked. Isn’t it financially profitable to stay silent and be on BTC side?
Perhaps, he wants more profit besides of having 1 million bitcoin. Besides that, by claiming that he is the real Satoshi, he can get famous and popularity from the public. Who doesn't want to do this if he can convince the public? But unfortunately, public especially member on here doesn't trust him, so it makes him difficult to prove that he is the real Satoshi.

But so far, he just lied to the public and kept saying that he is Satoshi Nakamoto and he wants to prove in the court. So let's see what will happen later, but I think people will not believe that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto.
9638  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitdouble.io |social gambling game |Prov fair | 0.005 mBit faucet | New PVP game on: April 18, 2019, 06:20:17 AM
Is there any news regarding to your gambling site? Its been a month since my last visit and I want to checj my account if its still alive do you add more features??

"On the platform they don't have instant payment which means that your payment amount is being checked and can be rejected." I see that you don not know about https://bitdouble.io/ . We have instant payment aslo we have Lightning. Now you can make very fast withdrow with a very low fee. We checked users who claim a lot of free bonuses and make a lot of profiles

Please write all of your problems to https://bitdouble.io/support.php
do you ignore the point? I have an agreement and waited for a payment. But the payment didn't occurred even we waited more than 2 weeks but not even any replies.
If you're not the one who is in charge you don't need to spend your time since you may not be aware of the situation.

What its the website still legit? Because I noticed your comment you waited for so long to withdraw your fund, even now the team did not reply to your concern??

Perhaps that is the sign to show they are not paying the winner but yes, we need to wait for a while or he could send a ticket or chat with the support system so he will know the answer.

But I agree that he needs to show the proof if the site is not paying the member so maybe the OP or the admin will clarify about that and I hope that the problem will be solved.

Personally, I don't play in bitdouble.io, and I don't have the experience to play on that website, so I don't know if they are legit or not. Let's wait for the OP to give the right answer, and we will know that they are very good or not later.
9639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people but bigger bets in sports compared to other type of gambling? on: April 18, 2019, 05:10:24 AM
Most people usually bet on sports they are interested in and watch those games, so they feel more confident in winning in those sports. That's why, they put higher bets on these sports.

They put their money into sports betting because they can gather valid information from every source so they can predict which teams will have a big chance to win. Sometimes I watch my friend collecting many news or data from the sources he had and analyzing one by one, and after making some analysis about the teams, he will choose the teams. Sometimes I am amazed at the money he uses for betting because he always shows me the amount of money. The minimum amount of money that he shows me is about $100 that is because he cannot get much information about the team, so he says that the chance to win is 50:50.

Still, when someone is sure with the information he can get, he can spend a lot of money just to win the games, and yes, they can win the game with big money.
9640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is an entertainment? on: April 18, 2019, 03:24:35 AM
Most of the people states that gambling is form of entertainment but the reality is different gambling is like business where people look to make more money from investing little money but most of them will get failed.

So in your view gambling is business or entertainment,answer honestly. Cheesy

For me, I use gambling as a form of entertainment and having fun with some money. I don't think that gambling is a business or source of income to make money because people don't have a good chance to make money. If there is a person claim that he can always make money from gambling then maybe he is one of the luckiest people because we know that playing gambling games needs the luck to win.

When you are considering gambling as part of the entertainment, you will know that win and lose will happen to you and you will not be sad although that sad feeling will come to you, you never think seriously about the loss. But unfortunately, many of us don't realize about this, and they still want to make money from gambling and still come back to the gambling places to try to win the games. As long as you can think that gambling is entertainment to having fun, you will be fine to come back many times.
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