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9621  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Today will be my last day using Mozilla Firefox or any Mozilla products... on: April 04, 2014, 06:52:46 AM
I am pro gay marriage and think the idea that people should lose their job and income over their beliefs is abhorrent. When we start punishing people for their thoughts we spend that last precious nickel of freedom and are left with only mountains of fascist debt.

Gotta agree, people are entitled to their opinions even if they're completely stupid, that's what freedom of speech, expression and thought is, that said, if for instance you have people abusing their positions precisely because of said personal opinions that's when they should lose their jobs, but this guy was just making political donations. If for instance, he was not hiring people because they were gay, or harassing them at work because of them being gay etc. etc. then people have every right to take action, but this is just petty, in fact, they're using the exact same tactics I've seen the people who persecuted them use ages ago.


... 6 years ago!
Everyone working with him knew him well enough to know his view on gay marriage. There is no discrimination at Mozilla. He worked with gays all the time. He left his belief at the door.
But all of that wasn't good enough.
9622  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Today will be my last day using Mozilla Firefox or any Mozilla products... on: April 04, 2014, 06:46:15 AM
First of all, Mozilla made an error appointing him CEO in the first place. Since Mozilla is a nonprofit foundation, it is important for the CEO and figurehead to share the ideology of the foundation, far more so than it is in the case of a for-profit company (in which case the ideology typically just boils down to "make money" anyway). Since equality is one of the core principles of the ideology that Mozilla wants to put out to the world, making Mr. Eich CEO was just a bad idea. In his previous position, as CTO, he didn't have to serve as figurehead of the foundation and the differences in ideology were not as much of an issue.

Furthermore, the problem, in my eyes, is no so much that Mr. Eich doesn't like gay marriage, but that he has actively tried to block it. And by doing so he has actively tried to restrict other peoples freedoms and that is crossing the line in my opinion. A $1000 donation to a campaign to disallow gay marriage is a $1000 donation to impede the freedoms of others. There wouldn't have been nearly as much commotion if Mr. Eich would've said something like "I don't like  gay marriage, but it's their life, so they can do with it what they want" (potentially followed by some religious rhetoric like burning in hell and all that kind of good stuff).

So you disagree with this man then:

The guy who had the gall to express his First Amendment rights and favor Prop 8 in California by donating $1,000 has just been scalped by some gay activists…

Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks? The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.


http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/04/03/the-hounding-of-brendan-eich/


There is also this little bit of info that should make everyone working, voting and expressing their free speech using money (money is speech) think twice before doing anything political in that state: Any donation over $100 has to be declared, then have all the names made public. So we are not talking mega billionaire but any small person believing in a cause no matter how  small in California.

Everyone who donated for that Prop 8 stuff in 2008 is on a list. A black list. A searchable list. If your name is found expect the same treatment.


Now to put things into perspective here is the Prop. 8 Black List:
http://projects.latimes.com/prop8/
Do you know anyone on that list? A family member? A neighbor maybe? Try it for yourself.

Of course it is not as if some people who expressed their speech legally were targeted. Where they?

Under mounting pressure, LA Film Festival director Richard Raddon has ankled his post.
Raddon and Film Independent (FIND), the festival’s parent org, have faced a barrage of protests over Raddon’s contribution to the successful Yes on Prop 8 campaign that banned same-sex marriage in California.
After bloggers published his name, culled from public records of donors, Raddon tendered his first resignation on Nov. 13 to Film Independent’s board of directors, which was not accepted. Film Independent then released a statement saying, in part, “Our organization does not police the personal, religious, or political choices of any employee, member, or filmmaker.”
Yet Internet message boards and other published reports kept the issue at the center of a growing protest movement that has targeted “Yes on 8″ donors including the Mormon church and Cinemark Theaters, whose CEO was a contributor.
On Monday, Raddon submitted a second resignation. Those close to the org described Monday’s conference call with the board of directors as emotional. While Raddon’s contribution had caused some internal angst, he was well liked within the org.
On Tuesday, Film Independent issued a statement saying “With great reluctance, Film Independent has accepted Richard Raddon’s resignation. Rich’s service to the independent film community and to Film Independent has been nothing less than extraordinary. He has always shown complete commitment to our core principles of equality and diversity during his long tenure.”


http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/25/anti-prop-8-mob-watch-la-film-festival-director-resigns-over-donations/



Abstract: Supporters of Proposition 8 in California have been subjected to harassment, intimidation, vandalism, racial scapegoating, blacklisting, loss of employment, economic hardships, angry protests, violence, at least one death threat, and gross expressions of anti-religious bigotry. Arguments for same-sex marriage are based fundamentally on the idea that limiting marriage to the union of husband and wife is a form of bigotry, irrational prejudice, and even hatred against homosexual persons. As this ideology seeps into the culture more generally, individuals and institutions that support marriage as the union of husband and wife risk paying a price for that belief in many legal, social, economic, and cultural contexts.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2009/10/the-price-of-prop-8


If you are in the tech industry in California this was a pretty clear message to shut people up, those who disagree with their sexual orientation.
I was contemplating getting a Firefox OS phone.
Right now there are no Mozilla products on any of my systems.

9623  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: April 04, 2014, 12:55:49 AM
....
That sounds like a full time job haha. I have to say banning people would be fun. But the best way, for me anyway, to make fun of a banner is to let him taste the full freedom of speech he steals from the people he crushed and let the world see it. ....
Well, that's the story of the fall of totalitarian societies, the structures which the warmies would bring back.  Because of imagined necessity to control peoples' behavior and carbon output, of course.

So he'd just hate your freedom.

... And then, on a deeper level, will end up hating himself as I am just a bunch of words on a forum for him. Nothing else.
9624  Other / Politics & Society / Today will be my last day using Mozilla Firefox or any Mozilla products... on: April 04, 2014, 12:33:12 AM

Eich resignation as Mozilla CEO as messy as his appointment
Brendan Eich stepping down as CEO solves Mozilla's immediate publicity problem, but many are torn about consequences of losing him as a leader and free-speech implications.


The resignation of Brendan Eich as Mozilla's CEO is proving to be just about as thorny to handle as his position against gay marriage rights that triggered the problem in the first place.

Even those who believe Eich's resignation is the appropriate solution to Mozilla's problem of leadership and morality are struggling with its consequences. After Mozilla announced Eich's resignation on Thursday, Twitter lit up with conflicted views from those who work the world of the Web.

"I can't process what's happening. So frustrated, sad, angry, and concerned. The right thing happened but at what cost. Stay strong Mozilla," tweeted John Resig, a former Mozilla employee and creator of the jQuery project that expands JavaScript's abilities.

Eich's troubles illustrate the growing power of the gay-marriage movement -- particularly in the San Francisco Bay Area where Mozilla's headquarters are located. San Francisco is a center of political power for the gay-rights movement, and the Bay Area's hyper-connected Internet-infused living can rapidly transform a controversy into a crisis.

Eich had built a strong following as co-founder of Mozilla, a savvy fighter for the Web, inventor of JavaScript, and leader of the Firefox and Firefox OS projects. His promotion to Mozilla chief executive officer from chief technology officer last week was a rare techie triumph over the usual business-school demographic.

Much of that credit evaporated as he struggled to reconcile his 2008 contribution of $1,000 to Proposition 8, a California measure against gay marriage, with Mozilla's explicit culture of inclusiveness. That inclusiveness is central to the world-spanning organization's breadth, and Eich told CNET in an interview that it protected his own views, too.

But his argument didn't persuade critics, and Mozilla management -- accustomed to taking the moral high ground -- had to defend itself from boycotts and outrage.


http://www.cnet.com/news/eich-resignation-as-mozilla-ceo-as-messy-as-his-appointment/

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"I can't process what's happening. So frustrated, sad, angry, and concerned. The right thing happened but at what cost. Stay strong Mozilla," tweeted John Resig, a former Mozilla employee and creator of the jQuery project that expands JavaScript's abilities."

JavaScript. The irony.
9625  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gun free zone on: April 03, 2014, 11:45:24 PM

How about Meds Free Zone


Drugs don't kill people - people kill people.

Each AMBIEN bottle should not need more than 7 pills.
9626  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: April 03, 2014, 11:41:11 PM
Climate deniers are annoying to listen (or read) basically because the stream is moving the other way, but it's surprisingly dictator'ing to censor people based on their opinion if they haven't broken the rules of civilized conversation.

At least climate deniers like myself will not ban you from expressing your speech on my little thread. How refreshing it is to drink from that stream isn't it?  Wink
However mired in drudgery and small thinking minds the "Famous Reddit Ban" may be, I for one would not be opposed to the occasional, Thor-like "lightning bolt from the blue" smashing to little bits a Warmie, after which we could all go back to welcoming an open intellectual discussion.

I mean, banning COULD be fun.  It could be a game.  There could be Bitcoin betting on who might get banned.  There could be a reward paid to the unfortunate Warmie who, upon vomiting the most objectionable combination of polar bears and Katrina and SUV, simply WON THE PRIZE.



That sounds like a full time job haha. I have to say banning people would be fun. But the best way, for me anyway, to make fun of a banner is to let him taste the full freedom of speech he steals from the people he crushed and let the world see it.

Also, if you want to know the heart of your nemesis, pour some honey on his tongue (don't google it. I just came up with this)
9627  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian school complains 8-year-old girl isn't girly enough on: April 03, 2014, 07:43:46 PM
Obviously the same open minded people would not dare laughing at the beliefs of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas, the belief of the Dalai Lama, the belief of Mother Theresa, etc. Not in public anyway.

I will! They're fucking silly Cheesy.

Also, not necessarily relevant but Mother Theresa was not a nice lady.

Quote from: Mother Theresa
There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering.
(src)

Back on topic: Sad. Not enough natural male hormones for that little girl. Really sad.

Not entirely sure what you mean by this, but I'm sure it's awful.

It is always fun to bring cheap blings to natives anywhere, before force converting them to one's superior non silly society's value. That will show them! They should feel lucky to be alive anyway! I get you  Wink

Just trolling a bit regarding post #10
9628  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: April 03, 2014, 07:34:59 PM
Global warming is a scientific theory not a fact. Its just one of many different theory's that tries to explain climate change. I agree that climate change cant be dismissed its clear its happening but the theory behind how or why its happening just remains a theory.

One theory is global warming which believes human activity and CO2 cause the warming of the planet. This is already wrong since the planet as been cooling for the last decade. Plus the planet was warmer then it is now during the Roman, Medieval Times. There was little human activity no cars, no factory's polluting yet it was warmer then than it is now. So CO2 could easily be ruled out.

However climate change which is different from global warming believes the climate is changing irregularly and this can be severe weather changes and temperature changes.


Climate change is fact.  But climate change theory's are just a theory of how it may be happening none of have been proven. When people say global warming is false there not deniers they just don't agree with that one theory that tries to explain climate change.

I believe most here would agree with you assertion. Reddit banned the people not following and believing in the rigid orthodoxy of the Church of the Anthropogenic (man-made) global warming 
9629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's 21million total coin supply hinders it immensely on: April 03, 2014, 07:22:09 PM
The topic has never, ever been discussed before, congrats OP.
Some people will think mBit is a solution.
Others are happy with earning 0.0005 BTC

This "problem" gives hope and purpose to at least a few alt coins which will thrive in the future.

How do you call a fraction of a dogecoin? A puppycoin?
9630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's 21million total coin supply hinders it immensely on: April 03, 2014, 07:17:36 PM
Problem is exactly what you said..mainstream society, which is Most of Society is turned off by all these "microbits" and "satoshi", it's too irregular. I have friends who don't care about Bitcoin but know the basics about it, wanna know why they dont care? Because bitcoin is offputting with all it's math, and the 21million total limit makes it seem as if the currency itself wasn't designed to be thought of seriously.

The math isn't that complicated.  Sounds like the problem is with the public education system, not Bitcoin.  Instead of dumbing down Bitcoin, perhaps the sheeple need to wisen up.

Well said. Here is the proof
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/31/wave-retirements-hitting-hoover-dam-workforce-as-government-scrambles-to-fill/
9631  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A little bit of perspective for all of us. A reminder for all of us. on: April 03, 2014, 07:06:41 PM
Good point. Especially if you think about regions where people only earn $1-10 a day and can't afford a bank account of any kind.

Yes. But it is also for us with a bank account who can't afford to pay a poet online for his talent for less than 99 cents. I wanted to remind people why we were into it. Also to tell anyone new to the scene what other dimensions Bitcoin can open.
9632  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: If you play WoW, Eve or any other game with currency you now owe taxes!!! on: April 03, 2014, 06:49:00 PM
This is technically true.

It really isn't. You don't own WoW gold (which has no market value) and it is just a parameter of your account, which is wholly owned by Blizzard.
How does wow gold have no market value?  It has exactly the same value as bitcoin.  It's valued at whatever two people decide it is.  If blizzard owns it then by the irs ruling they owe tax when it was created.  They also likely need to report it when they transferred it to a players control.  Maybe they need to register as a money transmitter.   Obviously all of this is idiocy but so is calling bitcoin property.

This is getting interesting. There are black markets to trade WoW gold I wonder why not have been considered money launders. Alot of bitcoin market got shut down because of this.

Why not looking into the case of REAL launderers using REAL washing machines?

http://nymag.com/news/features/tide-detergent-drugs-2013-1/

Should the company making Tides register as a money transmitter based on that IRS bitcoin ruling? Or is it FinCen now? This ruling should be applied to ALL and every single case described and should be pushed instead, not banned, to make everyone follow that ruling to the IRS letter.

9633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Global Chinese surveillance satellite spurred by missing airlines flight MH370 on: April 03, 2014, 06:39:59 PM
With so many satellites orbiting the earth isn't it strange that none of them got an image of the MH 370 during its 6-hour flight?

No. It is not strange. It is logical. That was the story/myth about the Enigma machine, Coventry's bombing, Ultra and Churchill.
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/learn/myths/myths/he-let-coventry-burn

If you have the power of a all seeing eye on the planet why show your enemy your hand before you need to REALLY use that card?
9634  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kim Jong Un Had His Uncle Eaten Alive By 120 Revenous Dogs on: April 03, 2014, 06:28:46 PM
Lets not forget those famines are one of the effects of the sanctions.

Let's not forget the famines are the direct result of the inhuman policies of the people in power.

Those sanctions has little effect of the people in power. The most affected on this sanctions are the people who are already oppressed and abused.

already oppressed and abused. But by whom? So the sanctions are responsible for that too? Little effect why? Who is still supporting the power in charge oppressing and abusing the people? The power pushing for the sanctions?



9635  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: April 03, 2014, 06:22:05 PM
Climate deniers are annoying to listen (or read) basically because the stream is moving the other way, but it's surprisingly dictator'ing to censor people based on their opinion if they haven't broken the rules of civilized conversation.

At least climate deniers like myself will not ban you from expressing your speech on my little thread. How refreshing it is to drink from that stream isn't it?  Wink
9636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize on: April 03, 2014, 06:15:41 PM
WW3? Never going to happen as long as Obama is the prez. If McCain / Romney was the POTUS, then half the world would have been nuclear wasteland right now.

LOooooOOL!

Obama did make the world a better place with his amazing political foreign affair talent? Sure. The "leading from behind" regime did marvelous things for non dead US ambassadors all over the world. The wrongly spelled "reset button" to Russia was not just an ugly and stupid yellow movie prop but a serious way to warm the relations between Putin and Obama. On a personal level even. The middle East is much more stable. No doubt. The Saudis trust Obama when he let Valerie Jarrett negotiating directly with Iran to let them developing their nuclear bomb... quietly. Egypt is in a much better shape since Obama put all his trust into the hand of the Muslim Brotherhood's Mohamed Morsi. US Allies trust Obama more than ever. Israel trusts Obama. Brazil trust Obama. That is why Brazil ordered $4.5 billions of brand new military jets from the US military complex, strangely based in the factories of SAAB in Sweden; jets strangely named Gripen, not Boeing.

I give him a good solid B+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecTsicm9eTI
9637  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: FINCEN v IRS on: April 03, 2014, 05:43:34 PM


I believe it would be more powerful to petition the IRS to include EVERY form of virtual currency as property and to be taxable like in massive online gaming, in game purchase you can exchange with others, on game consoles, etc, etc.

If World of Warcraft can "mine" objects its players can exchange for money then we should push for a case to make them property owners. US WoW players should be taxed if they make money by selling their property for cash, no matter how small the exchange is. The company should get an audit.

People hoarding expensive URL should pay property taxes too even though they never had the intention of selling. Someone with a very rare twitter @ knows how valuable it could be and so is the IRS.

let's not forget why MT Gox was created for and what platform it was serving.

Of course we need the IRS to tell us what is the official price of a bitcoin at any time in the world so to based our calculation on. Btc-e? Coinbase? MT GoX? Local bitcoin? Should it be based on the exchange the of that transaction even if that change is closed down?



Its based on where you bought it how much you paid then how much you made from selling it.  It doesn't matter what the price is else where just what you sold it for.


"where" is a fluid state in bitcoin
9638  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian school complains 8-year-old girl isn't girly enough on: April 03, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
Religion. Lol.

What is so funny in people believing in a God?  You don't think it's silly to laugh at others for having faith?  I think you want to feel more intelligent while being close minded and I find that odd...

It seems laughing and mocking people who do not share your viewpoint or your non belief is fashionable nowadays. Obviously the same open minded people would not dare laughing at the beliefs of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas, the belief of the Dalai Lama, the belief of Mother Theresa, etc. Not in public anyway.

Back on topic: Sad. Not enough natural male hormones for that little girl. Really sad.
9639  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Saudi Arabia To Classify Atheists As “Terrorists”… on: April 03, 2014, 05:03:51 PM
There's also the death penalty for muslims who give up their religion, and women can't drive in Saudi Arabia. Don't be surprised if nobody goes there for a vacation.

Interesting as they have 3-4 times more road fatalities that the western countries. And i don't see any real difference between them and qatar or Oman for example.
So , this clears the myth about female drivers.

... But does not do a thing to help the image of Saudi drivers drifting while AK-47ing...
http://youtu.be/dGt0RnZcO88



9640  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Real Time Socialist Train Wreck (again) Happening Now in Venezuela on: April 03, 2014, 04:53:01 PM
Yeah , they are stealing Venezuelan milk via the haarp project from the stores.
Comoon , it's just another socialist country going down the drain.

There are plenty of Socialist nations around the world. Some of them are currently doing much better, when compared to the US allies.

And those nations are.....?

Any socialist nations with an ironically named The Emperor at the helm I would presume...  Cheesy
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