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9741  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to explain bitcoin to teenagers or children on: February 16, 2017, 05:35:05 AM
Explaining the overall procedure may be quite difficult to teach the early teen though there are many ways such as YOUTUBE which provides info about all the things GOOGLE another easy way but it would be easier if they are teached in their late teen stage so that they can go on through their own
Well teens dont really care about bitcoins and they will not search it until someone told them so. Teens nowadays just watch trailers, assignments project and other things they need to do so they learn something from their studies.
Though noone is introducing them to bitcoin, they will not know it, so until someone told them about bitcoin and how you can earn some from it, they will not understand especially know bitcoin.
Bitcoin nowadays is very profitable as an investment, however, the interest of the kids is not yet in investing as they are not in need of money and in case they need, they can simply ask from their parents. Honestly, bitcoin investment is only for mature audience, due to our needs and dream to have a good future, we risk with bitcoin and fortunately, we have been getting good results so far.
They wouldn't put any interest since they don't care money too much because they are still dependent on their parents when it comes to money that's why they don't bother at all but well there are some will surely got interested not on earning opportunity but it would be on its benefits.
in fact their parents are responsible for fulfilling their educational and other needs, they no need to earn money, while in some countries they are taking the responsibilities of their education. there they should put all their concentration on education and not on earning money.
I think, it's not always the point in earning, but it's learning what Bitcoin is. It is an innovation for for itself, a great way to transact with minimum amount spend. It could be sent from anywhere anytime that has internet connection and it's quite easy to learn.
9742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 16, 2017, 05:26:09 AM
One precondition to play gambling in a smart way is to select the operator wisely, because there are some shady operators out there, like betcoin.ag, who will not honor the prizes you won or defraud you or embezzle your account balance! Like it already happened in the height of over US $300 million!

Choosing a casino is a good suggestion. But it seems that you are always targeting betcoin.ag Cheesy Oh well, you are right with it. Because with that case I stopped using betcoin too. I can also add that you should really be responsible when you gamble and don't let your emotion get you when you win small amount. Just focus on what you are doing.
yes he is ,looks like he want betcoin.ag use his service as 'game protector'  Tongue , however he has a point to always choose a trusted gambling site to play , how someone could called smart when they gamble on scam site ?

it is indeed not a technical way to gamble smartly but it is important.

Well yeah he has the point on choosing the operator or casino that you are going to gamble or else you will end up into frustration if you will have the same experience with betcoin. And the next thing you need to do upon choosing the casino, you need to be wise and precise when you will gamble, just gamble to the games you know.
It's your money after all, so you have the full freedom to decide on what site you want to play. Do not get tempted with the game alone, consider also what site are you placing, if it has a scammy history, you should not try to risk your money, besides, there are plenty of gambling sites here and for sure you will find what you are looking. It's really good to have fun especially if you are not afraid you won't get paid when you win.

Simplifying on what you had said, that's why choosing the operator or casino will do it all for you. And when it comes to scamming, I guess there are only few cases for this type of problems. We can consider also that while we are gambling, don't forget to have fun since it's your fund and you are the one who's responsible on it whether you lose or not.
I agree with the things that you have included, like choosing the casino your going to play on, or what site you are goin to play on if you're playing online. There are just some factors that you are goin to address like location, how clean and good the environment is, if the dealers are great, etc.
9743  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 16, 2017, 05:12:51 AM
no, Trading job is different from gambling, for trading, we need to analyze the market a scientific way, what we need to do is find out information, then apply our minds to accurate value judgments. It's a job that requires high skills, it does not depend on your luck, so trading is not gambling, you are a trader, not a gambling man. Be confident about that, your job is done proud.


there is no scientific way to analize the market what they calls TA is bullshit it doesn't work for everyone and it work some times, those who created TA are deceiving noobs in thinking that there is actually a way to predict the market and make always a +ev choice, what they don't say is that they are actually part of the market itself, thet are the one that manipulate the market and therefore can make the market move where they want
You are misunderstanding, technical analysis gives you the chance of improving the possibility of being right on your prediction, that is it, there is no way to completely predict every single time what the market is going to do, because there are simply too many variables, but as longs as you make more right calls then you should be in profit.
Yeah , everyone here right  , Actually in the starting everyone thinking that it is just like gambling .
Herr reason is true or you can say reason to say trading as gambling is right because in trading it is hard to predict that what the price will be for the particular altcoin in the future  But opposite of this if you are working in yobit continuously for long time then you will comes to know about the price for. every  famouse altcoin slowly slowly and you will comes to know that what is the range of the price for particular altcoin .
So if you are experienced in trading than you can't consider trading as gambling .
There are many possible ways that you can analyze the market, whether it's on stocks or crypto currency trading. That way, you can earn the possible profit you can get when dealing with it and analyzing it to your advantage. The risk of it getting involved in that is like gambling, so it has risk, be careful and be smart
9744  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 16, 2017, 04:52:49 AM
No one can't become rich from gambling, because gambling isn't a regular source of income and if you win big amount one time you try to gamble more to win more that result all your money to be lost.
That is right. I do gamble, and it started the day i was introduced in these forum and earning bitcoin.
Eversince i did not win and stop gambling my own money and savings. I was addicted to gambling that time but now I was just using my bitcoins from Faucets and use free rolls that they give.


I gamble from time to time and it's entertainment for me. I was elated when I learned about bitcoin and especially this forum because it helped me a lot to enjoy the small things in life. It's the little thing that counts. Always and you will be happy.
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9746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: February 16, 2017, 01:45:51 AM
Of course i'm not, if i would be then probably i wouldn't gamble. Many people feel shame not for gambling, but for losing, and probably for being addicted to gambling. I don't think it is very bad to gamble, it is all right unless you have to steal or lie just to get money to gamble, or of course if you gamble loads of money, then gamblers should feel shame

That's true. Losing is what's really shameful part of gambling, specially if you already boasted that you are a sure winner and that you keep on winning, and that gambling is your milking cow already, and it turns out that it is not.

Being a gambler is not that shameful, it is only shameful when you are already out of bounds, when all that you've mention is already been done, that's shameful to be like that.

Why would i have to be shameful for being a gambler .I do not have a problem gambling so i do not have any problem with it.I would feel guilty after having every masturbation  Cheesy but i do not give a damn nor do i feel ashamed if i am gambling.
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Certainly. When you are getting into problems already, that's shameful.


I don't think that losing is the shameful part in gambling. What's shameful is that you failing to control on your emotions and being addicted to gambling. If you also are affecting your relationships with others and asking them for money, then that's the time to feel ashamed. It's not healthy for you and your family.
9747  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drug free in the Philippines on: February 16, 2017, 12:40:02 AM
I certainly do not support Duterte, but I am not afraid of lowering the age of criminal responsibility. Any teenager should know that a crime is punishable. You easier by the fact that you will kill teenagers?
I will support and im favored that bill and I am not afraid if that happens because they are many street childrens especially in the main land because they are minor and they didn't be jailed they are using this to make some crime.
I also support such measures. This will prevent the use of teenagers for the crimes. They understand what they are doing. If this is not done then all the crimes will be committed by children.
It doesn't matter so much now on who's running the government because people are being practical. They keep on talking about what they are talking about in the government and what they are implementing. It's better to lower that because it's going to be a cleaner country. That's what I believe.
9748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: February 16, 2017, 12:31:11 AM
I'm usually stop betting if I reach 10% profit from initial deposit so my answer is not !
I'm ever experience if I keep betting , I'm loss more than I can afford

It's good that you are stopping when you got 10% already. But with what I do is I keep on gambling with my profit and instead of using my initial deposit. I prefer to use the winning I got instead because it seems to make me more comfortable to use my profit rather than using my deposit and when I lose, its okay.
If you have a large balance, that is enough for you. 10. Pretty much be safe than sorry right? It's not safe to gamble large amounts but the rewards are enormous. Go for the double the bankroll and you can probably lose when you reached that. When I double my bankroll, i withdraw my initial deposit then play with what I earned and be happy.
9749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: February 13, 2017, 09:19:14 AM
i am gonna make withdraw and send it into the exchange which i can use it to sell in fiat and then i will use it to buy bitcoin when i see the price is lower. i am prefer to withdraw into my bank account if i can have more than $30 in my exchange account so i can reduce the fee for withdraw.
i think that is a great idea on managing your winnings or profits but i dont win really much on these gambling especially when i am mad. I just win a small amout really like .0000010, something like that because in online gambling, i just use faucets and free rolls.
You better start controlling yourself in order to reach your goals and don't mind anybody else because it's you who has to win and have to prepare your money. It's what you do with it is what counts. Save to invest, not save to save.
9750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: February 13, 2017, 09:16:34 AM
It is very right and true fact that whatever we take out of gamble is the actual win while what we gamble again is what we will surely loose. So the more we can withdraw in real life or even bitcoins ( lock them in a wallet maybe ) that is the actual profit. Guy winning 1 bitcoin is not a winner if he losses it next day while a guy winning 0.01 is a winner if he worths it.

It is silly, if you win then you win no matter what you do with your winning. Even if you spend it again on gambling that doesnt matter because you win and it is your fault for not stopping. Some people dont really care wether they win or lose and they just keep going until they feel satisfied, at this point it means reaching the amount that they are satisfied with
What he's trying to say is that a winner is the one who has profits. Positive profits only and spending it on pleasures in the one you like. It is best to not be greedy in order to keep your profits  be satisfied with what you have and that's it. Be happy with what you already have and remember the ones who has nothing. 
9751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: February 13, 2017, 09:06:56 AM
It is better to risk your profit after withdrawing your initial deposit than playing it all risking it again will had you chance 50/50 its either you gonna win again or you gonna lose it all from playing it in the long run well you already did risk there but for me be careful i must go play with profit than doing nothing.
yes i also have the same strategy. after investing my money in gambling or trading when i make money first i withdraw my initial investment and then i risk my profit and that the reason that i remain more confident when i withdraw my profit and the play with profit. i apply the same formula in both trading and gambling also and is a very successful formula. really preventing me from a high risk.
I think this is a way to avoid problems later, because the important thing is to recover your initial investment, what comes after that is profit.
If you can afford to wait a little longer, even at the risk of losing part of the investment, there is the option of using a tool called stop-loss. I think that any decent exchange has this feature nowadays.
I have not seen a stop loss feature in a gambling site unless and until you write a script regarding the stop loss.While you are in a trading platform i can understand why you need a stop loss .But what is the use of that feature in a gambling site unless you plan on doing auto rolls you really do not need that feature.
There's one, you can use bot and some more upgraded bots have that. But for me, I do not follow it, I have my own timing of betting and I do not use bot as I believe it would still give the same result. I play for fun and profit but when I lose I can accept it and move on, there are plenty of times to gamble and if you are not lucky today, for sure tomorrow will be your day.
Well, it's not always a win if you use a bot. There are a lot of strategies that you can apply using the bot. You could provide a bankroll for a bot and one for your own entertainment. Just be careful when it's your unlucky day. You could regain your losses using a technique, and patience.
9752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: February 13, 2017, 12:37:08 AM
i think they are not even ready to hear to themselves. specially addicted people. they even know that they cannot  make money from gambling but still they are not ready to quit gambling. i think they should change their strategy about bitcoin and through this way they can minimize playing gambling.
It is hard to find out whether you are addicted to something and even if you are addicted your ego wont allow you to accept that and that is the problem when it comes to gamblers ,they are not willing to accept their personal demons and keeps on rolling to win back the money that they lost and end up losing everything.Consult someone who could guide you if you really wanted to quite gambling.

As long as you still able to control what you spend and what you can afford then that is not addicted. If bill gates spend thousand of dollars per day in gambling, that is still fine because he can afford those numbers however for people like us than that is something we couldnt afford and it should be controlled
It differs from a normal person when you are an addict. Better have control with yourself and not the game controlling you. It's better to try different strategies in order to make the most of your balance. Don't trust too much in casinos, it might eat your balance up. Better have control or quit.
9753  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: February 13, 2017, 12:33:57 AM
I have put more into an exchange for betting than I should have in the past. Once you have the funds on that exchange, it's too easy to bet with it. Consequently, I lost more than I had planned to use. I have learned to only keep a small amount of money on those sites.

Don't bet on exchange site. Bet only in casinos which you can see the roll seed, the provably fair casinos only. On another sites it's easy to fraud your game and make you lose money faster as normal.
I have experience with fraudulent casinos online and physical, never bet or believe on them.
There would be times that you will notice that you're always losing and it seems unfair. Better recheck the seeds and try to compute for yourself the roll you made. Be careful in sites that look suspicious because it probably is. Better safe than sorry. You shouldn't keep money on an exchange for too long because it might get you unless it's reputable.
9754  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: February 11, 2017, 09:13:04 AM
for me gambling becomes a sickness if only you know that you are losing and you still continue to gamble. playing even if you know that you will just lose is a sickness and not a self confidence. you may say it self confidence but if you always lose it will be a sickness even if you know that you are always losing you still continue.

No one continues gambling for just losing more, it is just they want to recover their losses but they don't realize that they are going deeper in that well, and at the time when they come to know that they are drowning, there is no time to react and they find themselves dead (out of funds). After that, everyone says we wont gamble again but after a few days they start again because they are addicted.
That's always the case when gambling. It's always going to be deeper UNLESS you act on it carefully. Be smart in gambling and know that you have some amount you have to take care and know you put hard work in. Don't ever think that it's okay to lose money because it has value, it could've helped some people, but it's a way to earn, so play smart.
It's our money and we should enjoy its value, we can lose but make sure we are having fun. Gambling is not a sickness if you are not doing it in an excessive way as that will be the reason of addiction. Since the winning rate for gamblers in the long run is pretty low, why not accept it and just play for fun.

I guess it would be better if we are just enjoying it than seeking for a method that has never existed.
Whether or not you are winning or losing, whether or not you are addicted or a casual player gambling won't be considered as a sickness. A sickness will make you ill and weak, gamblimg won't even give you that kind of symptoms in fact the only thing it can give you is addiction which is a totally different thing to sickness.
I think what the topic is trying to say is that, there are a lot of people who become addicted and starts destroying their lives including relationships and themselves. It could be like that, like addiction to some things like drugs and something. Addiction can be cured but not always, be admitted to a mental health to help your problems or be in a focus group.
9755  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Investment Doubt on: February 11, 2017, 09:10:35 AM
For how much time do you usually let your money invested in a casino before finish or renew it?

Until you reach $1 Million dollars!!  Grin
Everyone would want that but probably that won't happen, the owners would just get your money if that happens, lol. IF you've gained profit then probably you should withdraw it always. Be careful and don't put everything in one basket, as everyone says, so you should also SAVE to INVEST.
9756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 11, 2017, 09:07:19 AM
Just want know how much the gamblers who use analysis when play gambling and what kinds of gambling game? And do you think it is needed or not making analysis on gambling game or it is depend on lucky. Thanks for share your opinions and experience.

Analysis is being apply only if the gambler is doing gamble seriously not just for fun and entertainment, but taking as his own personal profit once He/she win the games, so he/she analyze everything in gambling.
Why is it that only gamblers that are serious about it analyze? It should be always done if you want to win, even if you're just playing for entertainment, you would always want to win, that's human nature and be sure that you are using your own money, you might get in trouble. I use different strategies and analyze where I've gone wrong and correct it.
9757  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: February 11, 2017, 09:05:23 AM
Yes i will suggest my self not to play more than with little amount on daily basis. Because we need to set some limitation in order to control ourselves, other wise it is very hard to sustain in this difficult world with all the expenses.
but it seems to me to be very difficult. we always want to get the best results, and one way is to set the amount bet more. self-control is not a difficult thing when can understand the purpose of life that we are headed.

If a person don't have any self control better he need to quit the gambling, because with out setting any rules for himself how can he dumply keep on gambling. It will leads him to loose all the money he had.

Control is the key because if you don't have it definitely you'll get addicted to it and for sure you'll lose tons of money. And that's what happens among gamblers they always chase their loses and become addictive to it till they ruin their life.

In other words SELF-CONTROL or SELF-DISCIPLINE is the tools for us to avoid big amount of losing money in the gambling. And through that we can never be input by any addiction from the gambling sites.
It's all about yourself, YOU and ONLY YOU is responsible whether you win or not. If you probably like to win always, then set some goals and don't be greedy. The urge to keep playing will happen and you will probably lose in the long run. So whether you have a small profit or a big one, just be sure that you are winning and positive profit always.
9758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 11, 2017, 08:59:54 AM
There is a thread in this forum called "How to stay away from Gambling".You need to go through that thread because people will most likely suggest the same thing here.Why you even gamble when you have a confidence you will lose at the end of the day?

Sounds the title you had mentioned is quite good where can I find that "How to stay away from Gambling" do you have a link on this?
Anyway, gambling will become addicting only if we allow ourselves to control by it. But if we don't allow it we can never become an addictive into that things.
I don't even know where it is also, but sounds like a good article, but if you can control your gambling ways, that's no problem at all, and you can advise. For me, I set goals in order to meet my expectation and not gamble too much. It's better to be safe now than sorry, and it's completely okay with what you are going to do as long as you can control yourself and don't go emotionally.
9759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 11, 2017, 08:56:45 AM
Not everyone focuses on the profit but you play because of the possible profit, that's probably the goal of everyone that is gambling. You can never blame anybody else but yourself when you lose money. In order to gamble the smart way, you should set some strategy in order to play smart. Modify some strategies that are already famous like martingale and labouchre or something.
9760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 11, 2017, 08:53:49 AM
Trading can be considered as a gambling actions. It depends on a person who does the trading itself. If people did trading based on their feeling only and gain only small amount of informations regarding to the price fluctuations, in fact, they did gambling rather than trading.

Certainly, trading without proper knowledge is too risky and can be considered as gambling already. Market moves from time to time, and all you can do is to guess the next price. Observation on price movement and bids could give you an advantage in trading, but still, it is still risky, pumps and dumps are unpredictable.  Smiley
There is no success without knowledge because knowledge is power, what you can get by trading with lack of knowledge is a temporary success, but we do not want that right? A trader wants to earn consistently in trading as it can be considered as his job that makes trading as a source of income.

Methods and technique can be learn, we should seek for it and don't get discourage every time you fail.

Nice words of encouragement, trading really needs to have sills and experience it requires some ideas and techniques on how to have a good transactions. While gambling is for depending on lucks only though requires sometimes skills too.
Well, gambling is not really require skill to win it, because the game is focused on the greatest luck. well, you just have to experience for gambling. but, trading requires skill and experience, in order to survive the rigors of the current price fluctuations.
If you're talking about personal skills, yeah but the character is also a factor to winning it. If you are not that greedy, you could be patient with small winnings and earn in the long run. Trading also needs a skill like patience with when you are going to sell or buy with the current price or something.  Just be patient.
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