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981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 08, 2017, 09:12:18 AM

it's not loosing value really against the USD anymore that is correct but it is still in decline over BTC but has slowed down a lot the last couple of days it's only really loosing ~0.1% per day before it was loosing closer to 0.4% a day
982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 07, 2017, 09:29:55 PM
6x "monthly" data points for a thing that hasn't existed for 3  Roll Eyes

Eh do you mean that chart I posted ? There are only 6 because we have just started the month last months chart was pretty much the same just less of a decline


983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 07, 2017, 08:07:26 PM
I love this fork! It allowed me to get extra money:)

That's the only thing it's been good for but in its current state it looks to be loosing many lots of money that believed in it seems to be on a slow downward cycle and is now reaching back to where it was before the Korean pump I feel sorry for anyone that bought near the top of $1000 if they still have them same for any that bought at $600 I feel the days of being over 0.10 are over

Lets see if the current trend line follows  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Yes I know it won't but if it did then BCH will be dead early next month

984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 07, 2017, 06:56:32 PM

https://themerkle.com/current-batch-of-bitmain-miners-can-only-be-paid-for-with-bitcoin-cash/

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Most Bitcoin users are well aware that Bitmain is one of the largest ASIC hardware manufacturers in existence today.
It is also one of the few companies still selling cryptocurrency mining equipment to mainstream consumers.
The company recently made the decision to only accept Bitcoin Cash payments for its latest batch of Antminer S9 units.


╥Aztek

Old news. This batch was released over a week ago, and I still do not detect any positive effect on the BCH market.


Article Date  October 6, 2017

So it is New News for the Majority,

This will have a positive effect over the coming months, as it gives a direct reason to either mine Bitcoin Cash or convert segshit versions to the real bitcoin.

Economics , it does not happen overnight, but its effects are cemented in stone.
Nothing but a matter of time now.

-Aztek

They were late then its already been spread all over twitter, redit and every major crypto site for over a week

985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 07, 2017, 06:34:20 PM
I am planning to buy some BCH as altcoin in future but my waiting is going on until it touches the real value. It will exist for long time but some timely pumps so buying at under 0.07 will be good gamble on it. That is what my buy target is at and the day is on the way to appear sooner when my orders will get filled at these prices.

Might not have long to wait price has just gone under 0.082
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 07, 2017, 04:23:12 PM


I wonder what the Winklevoss twins have done or intend to do with their 100K+ BCH coins.

Seriously? who cares? They might as well stick those 100k coins+ up to their arses and see if it fits, LOL

Depends how they are stored I guess  Cheesy

Cold storage? offline ^^

I was referring to size and how easily it would fit
987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 07, 2017, 04:11:14 PM


I wonder what the Winklevoss twins have done or intend to do with their 100K+ BCH coins.

Seriously? who cares? They might as well stick those 100k coins+ up to their arses and see if it fits, LOL

Depends how they are stored I guess  Cheesy
988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 07, 2017, 03:34:59 PM
https://gemini.com/blog/bitcoin-cash-bch-withdrawals/

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We are pleased to announce that as of Saturday, October 7, 2017, Gemini will allow all customers to view their BCH balance and request a withdrawal via the BCH withdrawal request page.  If you choose to request a BCH withdrawal, your entire BCH balance will be transferred to your chosen withdrawal address.

 

BCH requests are not sent onto the blockchain immediately. The first time we will process all submitted BCH withdrawal requests will be Wednesday, October 11 at 1pm EDT. After that point, requests will be honored within 5 business days from the time of your request. Example: If you request on Saturday, October 21, 2017, your transfer will be executed on or by Friday, October 27, 2017.

 

Although we do not currently have plans to open order books for BCH trading, we will continue to update our customers as the BCH situation evolves further.




lol, who gives a flying shit about that exchange anyways, not even in top ten list.


Just more coins to be flooded to the market don't know how many they held though but the more that are unlocked and come to the market the more accurate the BCH value will be because so far it's taking into consideration coins that are locked up and the users have no choice.

There are these to now be released and moved/sold, xapo that need to be moved or sold and coinbase in january 



users always have a choice, IMHO

Yes those that had BTC in a wallet they owned the keys for had a choice and the ones in wallets where the coins were split had a choice but when they had BTC in a wallet where the BCH balance has not yet been released then no they didn't have a choice their balance is locked and cannot be touched until released and only then are they able to have the choice if they wand to hold or sell

989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 07, 2017, 03:24:26 PM
https://gemini.com/blog/bitcoin-cash-bch-withdrawals/

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We are pleased to announce that as of Saturday, October 7, 2017, Gemini will allow all customers to view their BCH balance and request a withdrawal via the BCH withdrawal request page.  If you choose to request a BCH withdrawal, your entire BCH balance will be transferred to your chosen withdrawal address.

 

BCH requests are not sent onto the blockchain immediately. The first time we will process all submitted BCH withdrawal requests will be Wednesday, October 11 at 1pm EDT. After that point, requests will be honored within 5 business days from the time of your request. Example: If you request on Saturday, October 21, 2017, your transfer will be executed on or by Friday, October 27, 2017.

 

Although we do not currently have plans to open order books for BCH trading, we will continue to update our customers as the BCH situation evolves further.




lol, who gives a flying shit about that exchange anyways, not even in top ten list.


Just more coins to be flooded to the market don't know how many they held though but the more that are unlocked and come to the market the more accurate the BCH value will be because so far it's taking into consideration coins that are locked up and the users have no choice.

There are these to now be released and moved/sold, xapo that need to be moved or sold and coinbase in january 

990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 07, 2017, 02:56:42 PM
https://gemini.com/blog/bitcoin-cash-bch-withdrawals/

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We are pleased to announce that as of Saturday, October 7, 2017, Gemini will allow all customers to view their BCH balance and request a withdrawal via the BCH withdrawal request page.  If you choose to request a BCH withdrawal, your entire BCH balance will be transferred to your chosen withdrawal address.

 

BCH requests are not sent onto the blockchain immediately. The first time we will process all submitted BCH withdrawal requests will be Wednesday, October 11 at 1pm EDT. After that point, requests will be honored within 5 business days from the time of your request. Example: If you request on Saturday, October 21, 2017, your transfer will be executed on or by Friday, October 27, 2017.

 

Although we do not currently have plans to open order books for BCH trading, we will continue to update our customers as the BCH situation evolves further.
991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 07, 2017, 12:42:29 AM
https://twitter.com/bradmillscan/status/916440400944082944

https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/223

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BitFinex will list 2X as B2X and Bitcoin will remain $BTC

Well, that pretty much says it all? Shocked EDIT: or not... wtf:

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As the proposed consensus protocol Segwit2x project appears likely to activate, we have elected to designate the Segwit2x fork as B2X, for now. The incumbent implementation (based on the existing Bitcoin consensus protocol) will continue to trade as BTC even if the B2X chain has more hashing power.

Best bet is probably just to wait it out and see
992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 06, 2017, 11:10:52 PM
Coinbase just tweeted their stance and action plan on the S2X forl
https://twitter.com/coinbase/status/916430726047817728

Coinbase is selectively enforcing their support for controversial hard forks.

Legally speaking, they don't have a valid reason to embrace Bcash and Silbert2X while ignoring Bitcoin Gold, CLAMS, Litecoin Classic, Ethereum Dark, etc.

It's far worse an indiscretion than merely arbitrary or random inclusion/exclusion, because Coinbase has investors and advisers drowning in DCG conflicts-of-interest.

Brian Armstong should have stuck to his guns and actually had the balls to enforce his original "If you want your stupid Bcash then get your coins the fuck off Coinbase before the fork" policy instead of (yet again) being a total cuck and surrendering to the mob of Free Shit Army whiners.

By refusing to fight and win the good fight (against over-entitled moonchildren) sooner, he's doomed Coinbase to losing a much bigger war in the long term.

To elaborate, Coinbase's massive insurance/regulatory compliance overhead compounds the technical infrastructure costs of supporting new coins/forks.

Thus Coinbase must make profit faster than it spends resources supporting controversial hard forks.

So, given Coinbases's new "We Cuck To All Shitty Forks Now" policy they will (given a sufficient number of forks to support) go bankrupt.

"Welcome to Coinbase.  We lose money on each new Bitcoin fork but make up for it in volume!" -Brian Armstrong basically

Ha ha, just kidding.  We all know Coinbase will only support the controversial forks that keep the drug-money-laundering CIA shekels from Barry flowing into their next financing round. Cheesy

I don't use coinbase so makes no difference to me what they do, I do have an account but never used it I don't even think ive done KYC verification

993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 06, 2017, 10:48:03 PM

Achtung!



segwit2x/S2X etc etc wil not be "free money".You will only have a choice to swap your segwit 1x/legacy at a rate of 1:1 or hold your legacy/segwit 1x and opt to buy the segwit2x on an exchange or whatever.This will not be a free airdrop similiar to bitcoincash/BCH/Bcc etc etc.
!!!

Oh shit!??!?!?!?!! Thank you. I thought we would get same amount of both!!! Wtf!!!

Better NOT be in BTC at all in that case! This sounds suddenly so risky!

That information is complete rubbish it's a chain split you will get both 1:1 you just have to be careful splitting the coins (see earlier post) before trading so your transaction cannot be replayed on the other chain because if you send 1 S2x coin the transaction will be valid on the BTC chain and can be re-broadcast stealing your BTC

EDIT:
Coinbase just tweeted their stance and action plan on the S2X forl
https://twitter.com/coinbase/status/916430726047817728


You will see.Lets hope you learn the hard way.

I won't be doing anything I have no interest in the 2x chain and doubt it will even gain enough mining support to survive

Coinbase just announced that they will be giving their users coins on both chains so I guess you know more than a multi million dollar company

Do you have any proof ? 
994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 06, 2017, 10:19:43 PM

Achtung!



segwit2x/S2X etc etc wil not be "free money".You will only have a choice to swap your segwit 1x/legacy at a rate of 1:1 or hold your legacy/segwit 1x and opt to buy the segwit2x on an exchange or whatever.This will not be a free airdrop similiar to bitcoincash/BCH/Bcc etc etc.
!!!

Oh shit!??!?!?!?!! Thank you. I thought we would get same amount of both!!! Wtf!!!

Better NOT be in BTC at all in that case! This sounds suddenly so risky!

That information is complete rubbish it's a chain split you will get both 1:1 you just have to be careful splitting the coins (see earlier post) before trading so your transaction cannot be replayed on the other chain because if you send 1 S2x coin the transaction will be valid on the BTC chain and can be re-broadcast stealing your BTC

EDIT:
Coinbase just tweeted their stance and action plan on the S2X forl
https://twitter.com/coinbase/status/916430726047817728
995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 06, 2017, 08:25:19 PM
^

Thank you! I use Electrum myself. Kind'a like it.

I will sell both BTG and BTCx2. I just want the free money. *lol* I wonder what happens with BCH price at that time.

If S2X survives be careful splitting there is only optional replay protection and its clumbersome

There is an excellent article from jimmysong on this here
https://bitcointechtalk.com/how-segwit2x-replay-protection-works-1a5e41767103

Here is the important bit
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What do I need to do to split my coins after the hard fork?

You will want to move your Legacy coins first to new addresses (your Legacy wallet), but each of these transactions will have to send a small amount to 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi. If you don’t care much about privacy, you can make one giant transaction that sends all your current bitcoins to another address or set of addresses. Just make sure a small amount is also sent to 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi in the same transaction.
After that, you can send your 2x coins to different addresses and that would be your 2x wallet.

I see, thank you very much! I wonder which wallets will be supporting all these coins. Jesus, this is really all so annoying! (Even though free money)

The reason S2x did it this way is that there is no need to rewrite the wallet code the only thing that will matter is if its connected to a BTC Core node or a BTC1 s2x node very sketchy and underhanded way of doing it I really do think that the S2x chain will die and it won't be worth the risk even trying to split
996  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 06, 2017, 08:12:34 PM
^

Thank you! I use Electrum myself. Kind'a like it.

I will sell both BTG and BTCx2. I just want the free money. *lol* I wonder what happens with BCH price at that time.

If S2X survives be careful splitting there is only optional replay protection and its clumbersome

There is an excellent article from jimmysong on this here
https://bitcointechtalk.com/how-segwit2x-replay-protection-works-1a5e41767103

Here is the important bit
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What do I need to do to split my coins after the hard fork?

You will want to move your Legacy coins first to new addresses (your Legacy wallet), but each of these transactions will have to send a small amount to 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi. If you don’t care much about privacy, you can make one giant transaction that sends all your current bitcoins to another address or set of addresses. Just make sure a small amount is also sent to 3Bit1xA4apyzgmFNT2k8Pvnd6zb6TnwcTi in the same transaction.
After that, you can send your 2x coins to different addresses and that would be your 2x wallet.
997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 06, 2017, 07:48:56 PM
If I have BTC, after Segwit2x, I will have BTC + Segwit2x-BTC? Two sets of coins? I mean, like what happened with BCH?

Wrong if you have BTC you will have both Bitcoin Gold and Segwit2x (3 Sets of coins providing both forks happen and gain value and support)



JESUS... WILL THE REAL BITCOIN, PLEASE STAND UP!??

LOL... I forgotten all about Bitcoin Gold... this is just silly!!!

EDIT: I reckon, same procedure as with BCH? Have the BTC in a private wallet before that date?


Im still sceptical of both though for different reasons

Bitcoin Gold
I support what this stands for but don't know if they have found a developer to make the required changes its already been delayed once but if the promises remain true it has the potential to be one of the most profitable GPU mined coins

Segwit2x
This does not seem to have very much community support apart from a small group and will be launching with the same difficulty as BTC with no failsafe mechanism for lack of mining power the devs seem to expect the 95% of miners to uphold the NYA and to become the majority chain but if the users won't buy the coins there is no incentive for the miners and it may just fizzle and die within the first difficulty adjustment period

Bcash was different the miners were the ones backing it and built in a failsafe will garzik mine this if no others miners will support for such a loss.



And yes keep your BTC in a wallet you own the private key for or the seed personally mine are on a TREZOR
998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 06, 2017, 07:29:33 PM
If I have BTC, after Segwit2x, I will have BTC + Segwit2x-BTC? Two sets of coins? I mean, like what happened with BCH?

Wrong if you have BTC you will have both Bitcoin Gold and Segwit2x (3 Sets of coins providing both forks happen and gain value and support)

999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 06, 2017, 07:16:39 PM
EDA has nothing to do with the value of BCH. It's to prevent a death spiral, and it is effective for this purpose. The value is based on its utility and adoption rate, which is increasing rapidly (4 new exchanges, including 1 BCH->fiat, in the past week).We'll see exactly why Segwit BTC-1x is weak without EDA in November when the SHTF with Segwit2x.

What utility, its unusable. Last block mined more then 3 hours ago. There is no utility in BCH at the moment. As a store of value against 8 years old BTC it still meh and for quick transactions BTC, LTC and ETH are all better, at least they work all the time.
And did you look at the charts? BCH value is steadily going down since about august 19. In fact its similar to many alt coins - speculation and wild swings at first "its the next big thing" and then gradual decline when realization kicks in "no its not there yet".

But maybe it was all planed? release miner coin, mine a truckload of BCH, fork into better EDA algorithm. Can you say premined?

Bruh, Do you even bitcoin? Did you notice that transactions were routinely unconfirmed for 72 hours a few months ago? Suck it up and wait 3 hours, big deal. It may not be optimal, but obviously someone is gaming the EDA, and the other miners are too lazy to smooth out their erratic hashrate game. If this was BTC, Maxwell and all of his little butt-minions would be screaming on Reddit about the "attack on decentralization", blaming Roger Ver and Jihan Wu, etc.  It looks like BCH people just quietly suck it up and buy the coins this miner is dumping  Lips sealed  

I know a lot of people who bought at 0.084. Man I wish I had the money to jump in.

As for this claim of "unusability", BCH still has fees that are 1500x lower than BTC/Kore. This means that all of the use cases for BTC that disappeared due to the artificially high fee market are back: dice, gambling, micropayments, tipping. In short, you can use your coins with BCH rather than greedily wringing your hands over your little pile of BTC "digital gold".

Its not just a miner gaming the EDA its all of them together and most of these coins being insta-mined have not been transferred or sold most are still sitting untouched in the miners wallets


So the coin emission curve will remain a little bumpy over the next few months until more hashrate jumps into BCH.  And what is the outcome of this? I don't see any armageddon here.

The miners could be dumping coins previously mined so their friends can buy in low. Also the Xapo dump put more volume on the sell side. Again I don't see cause for alarm.

The main concern right now seems to be fixing the difficulty adjustment through another hard fork there is plenty of talk about it deadalnix looks to have suggested some new algorithm but the users seem to think its over complicated and should just leave the EDA as is and just implement a reverse EDA there plenty of disagreements going off which probably isn't helping the value too much

1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 06, 2017, 07:00:11 PM
EDA has nothing to do with the value of BCH. It's to prevent a death spiral, and it is effective for this purpose. The value is based on its utility and adoption rate, which is increasing rapidly (4 new exchanges, including 1 BCH->fiat, in the past week).We'll see exactly why Segwit BTC-1x is weak without EDA in November when the SHTF with Segwit2x.

What utility, its unusable. Last block mined more then 3 hours ago. There is no utility in BCH at the moment. As a store of value against 8 years old BTC it still meh and for quick transactions BTC, LTC and ETH are all better, at least they work all the time.
And did you look at the charts? BCH value is steadily going down since about august 19. In fact its similar to many alt coins - speculation and wild swings at first "its the next big thing" and then gradual decline when realization kicks in "no its not there yet".

But maybe it was all planed? release miner coin, mine a truckload of BCH, fork into better EDA algorithm. Can you say premined?

Bruh, Do you even bitcoin? Did you notice that transactions were routinely unconfirmed for 72 hours a few months ago? Suck it up and wait 3 hours, big deal. It may not be optimal, but obviously someone is gaming the EDA, and the other miners are too lazy to smooth out their erratic hashrate game. If this was BTC, Maxwell and all of his little butt-minions would be screaming on Reddit about the "attack on decentralization", blaming Roger Ver and Jihan Wu, etc.  It looks like BCH people just quietly suck it up and buy the coins this miner is dumping  Lips sealed  

I know a lot of people who bought at 0.084. Man I wish I had the money to jump in.


Its not just a miner gaming the EDA its all of them together and most of these coins being insta-mined have not been transferred or sold most are still sitting untouched in the miners wallets
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