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981  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: TRADER bukanlah PENGANGGURAN on: September 03, 2023, 03:20:10 PM
masih banyak yang menganggap aktifitas trading hanyalah main2 dan bukanlah sebuah pekerjaan namun trading adalah pekerjaan, trading di kategorikan ke dalam self-employed atau dalam kamus besar nya -> orang orang yang bekerja dengan dirinya sendiri, maka itu untuk para trader segera bantah mereka yang menganggap anda pengangguran hanya karena mereka tidak melihat anda memiliki seorang bos, anda adalah bos untuk diri anda sendiri, jangan patah semangat dengan omongan mereka, jika anda sudah sangat nyaman dan mendapatkan profit konsisten maka pertahankan itu karena ketika anda berupaya mencari pekejraan di luar sana, anda hanya akan membuang buang kesempatan anda menjadi seorang trader profesional.
Saya tidak terlalu memperdulikan anggapan orang khususnya berkaitan dengan anggapan orang kepada orang yang menghabiskan waktu di rumah dianggap sebagai penggangguran.
Tidak perlu dibantah jika mereka tetap memandang trader itu adalah seorang pengangguran.

Ajak salah satu diantara mereka yang menganggap trader adalah pengangguran untuk memperkenal bagaimana kita mendapatkan pendapatan dengan perkerjaan yang kita lakukan.
Orang tersebut akan paham bahwa kerja keras dengan kerja cerdas terdapat perbedaan. Sistem kerja modern berbeda dengan sistem kerja tradisional.

Dulu, petani melakukan pekerjaannya secara tradisional mulai dari penggarapan sawah hingga tiba waktu panen. Hampir semua pekerjaan lain ditinggalkan karena tidak bisa dikerjakan secara bersamaan. Semenjak teknologi terus mengalami kemajuan, pekerjaan bertani bisa dilakukan dengan mudah tanpa meninggalkan aktivitas lain yang sama penting.
982  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Nothing compares to BITCOIN, know this and know peace on: September 03, 2023, 02:56:48 PM
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Treat Bitcoin as Bitcoin and treat Altcoins as Alts, because that's what they are, at the end of the day nothing really compares to Bitcoin.
Yes. Another term to put something in its place. Don't work as a gardener to do construction work because they are not related to each other.
Bitcoin is BTC that will always be there even if they don't ban it and Bitcoin is not an altcoin.

Beginners, if I were you I would be less worried about Bitcoin, it's proven already, and I will be more worried about others, the journey of making money through Alts is full of thorns, stay safe out there.
The OP is right that don't worry too much when the price is having trouble moving. Bitcoin is not only limited to price, but there is something more valuable, namely its value, including all the advantages contained in bitcoin.
Let me add again that Bitcoin is not a fraudulent coin. So for beginners, don't worry even though on the way you will get various negative issues about bitcoin.
983  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Honestly, Bitcoin fits in this gap more than others. on: September 03, 2023, 02:18:20 PM
They can't control it, and that's why they hate it.

Instead the Banks are getting in relations with Chainlink and XRP, something that's built centralized and imagine many countries start using these centralized coins and the same FTX shit happens, how will that go? Not good right?
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I try to continue this point.

Because it is difficult to control like fiat currency, this is the real reason the government doesn't want bitcoin, in fact they explicitly oppose bitcoin.
There are many other obstacles that make them look at bitcoin from a disadvantage point of view instead of looking at bitcoin from the point of view of the advantages contained in bitcoin.

The classic reason, they consider bitcoin to be too volatile in price but they are aware that there are enormous benefits behind the blockchain system, especially in various industrial companies operating under their licenses.
The reason they use a centralized system is to make it easier for them to control inflows and outflows like fiat currency.

We still support bitcoin as the best financial system even though they don't admit it and we still try to convey the truth about the advantages and uses of bitcoin.
984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 03, 2023, 01:38:20 PM
Apart from Arsenal vs Man U, there will be another equally interesting match...
Arsenal can overcome Manchester United at the Emirates later because Manchester United's performance is nothing special in the last three matches.

Liverpool vs Aston Villa... Bookmakers give low odds for Liverpool to win this game, who are the favourites, but Villa have played very well in recent games, but they lost big to Newcastle... But I think they can score today...
2 goals in 20 minutes. Quite an impressive start for Liverpool. Darwin Nunez's cheerful face will indicate that the Anfield public will win with a score of more than 3.
There was no sign that Aston Villa could score a goal because after 35 minutes, there had been no chance to endanger Liverpool's goal.

Apart from Nunez who played as the starting eleven, there was Jones who was played from the start by Jurgen Klopp alongside Mac Allister and Szoboszlai.
Full points are the main priority apart from the number of goals which will be another target for the game being played by Liverpool.
985  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: September 02, 2023, 02:15:24 PM
Until seeing the teams joining from the Champions League my favourite for the title is Liverpool. They don't belong to the Europa League above all else. But their performance previously caused this to happen. However now they are in a better condition. Especially if they can't secure their place in top 4 I would expect them to be even more competitive for the Europa League title.
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Liverpool as a whole is a team that is very ready to compete on the path to winning the UEFA European League tournament this season after the draw results were announced.

Maybe we don't know in detail about the strengths and weaknesses in each game of each team in the same group as Liverpool. As Liverpool fans, we feel that Liverpool can easily qualify for the next round, at least from the group stage because I personally don't clearly understand the concept of the UEFA European League competition.
When they are able to qualify from the group stage, the challenges will be clearly visible, especially if there are teams that fail in the UEFA Champions League, as was the concept last season, to compete in this tournament.
986  Economy / Gambling / Re: Concept of Halal Casino on: September 02, 2023, 01:43:43 PM
I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  Huh
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.
The title of the video contains a question mark, there is a possibility that the Mufti Menk's video intends to invite discussion or try to explain well to the audience about the notion of gambling if I'm not mistaken because I don't understand the language of the video.

In Islam, gambling is something that is prohibited by law. Something that is prohibited by the law of sin because there is something that can have a bad impact on the perpetrator. I think about gambling is very clear in Islam.
If there are still gamblers who are Muslim, it is not the Islam that is at issue but the person.

Every religion does not teach bad things.
987  Economy / Economics / Re: The Devaluation of fiat money is powered by Inflation on: September 02, 2023, 12:58:36 PM
Fiat money is a money or currency that is unable to change its function or pattern,which is signed and decreed as a legal tender.having this money is like owning an asset because you cant change it,but it can be use as an exchange for something.

This fiat money is a meduim of exchange in the form of coins,paper and all of that.since its existence it has been an easy way of exchange for demands and wants and has helped in reaching to the goals of oneself.which have made the approach and desires for this fiat money to be over emphasised.
But the insurgency of inflation have empowered the devaluation of this money.
Everything about the money you mentioned is determined or controlled by the government or a party that has the authority to issue regulations regarding how much money must be printed or made each year.

Acceptance of fiat money as a transaction tool that makes it easier for people as a medium of exchange to get something because fiat money is a legal tender that is recognized by all countries.
But from the way fiat currency works, its value depends on the government or central bank, so it is not surprising that its value can change or fall over a long period of time due to inflation and several other things.

There is something even greater than fiat currency but the government or interested parties are not willing to admit it or make it a good financial system, namely bitcoin.
This type of currency needs to be discussed in the house specifically in order to get the answer who is better.
988  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hope is all I have left on: September 02, 2023, 12:01:33 PM
From hope to reality. Keep the spirit regardless of the amount invested because from the amount of 1 satoshi we can get 1 bitcoin if we are willing to do it regularly even though what is currently being done is only once every 2 months.
Never feel pessimistic about the bitcoin investment that you are doing. Maybe for the next few days you can invest in large amounts of bitcoin and do it almost every month.

Bitcoin is a good hedge against fiat currencies and you are already at a good stage. Just remember that 1BTC=1BTC.
989  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [SHARE] Kumpulan Gratisan, Giveaway, Kontes, Dan Sejenisnya on: September 02, 2023, 11:32:46 AM
Pemenang prediksi harga bitcoin bulan Agustus telah diumumkan oleh sinbad.io pada 1 September 2023;

30TH AUGUST @10:00 UTC BITCOIN PRICE : $27,475.34

. Third place .
Prediction 2: $27,355
bech32 address: bc1qqrnus8u66ma9avncyct55tu7p3c8lnlwn3fczc

. Second place .
Prediction 1: $27,547.18
bech32 address: bc1qnnkav38ze4uxhk0ac70g8lqcgxc37492lrpwr9

. First place .
Prediction 2: $27,439.10
bech32 address: bc1qdqqdtfz5j0ctl2v8n36t6vrt2qvn7t2935p8d6


Manajemen Sinbad.io kembali membuat tantangan prediksi harga bitcoin untuk bulan September. Agan-agan yang ingin berpartisipasi untuk harga bitcoin bulan September sudah bisa memberikan prediksi harga terbaik.
Salah satu aturannya adalah siapapun peserta yang ingin memberikan prediksi harus sudah memiliki 50 postingan di akun bitcointalk sebelum 31 Agustus.

Kunjugi threadnya dibawah ini;

SINBAD.IO Mixer September Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge


Format Post
Code:
Prediction 1: $xx,xxx.xx
bech32 address:

Code:
Prediction 2: $xx,xxx.xx
bech32 address:



Semoga beruntung gan.
990  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: SINBAD.IO Mixer September Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge on: September 02, 2023, 11:02:32 AM
Prediction 1: $27,457.00
bech32 address: bc1q7ctksgvqhaanqe5ckzrv9q4zdcfz77z0h6p45j
991  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 01, 2023, 04:10:38 PM
Eddie Howe's Newcastle are in Group F, definitely the Group Of Death

They will face PSG, Borussia Dortmund and AC Milan. It’ll be really tough but they can definitely do it. Newcastle’s home form will be key. There aren’t many better crowds to play in front of.
Eddie Howe's first challenge was so tense being in a group with PSG, Dortmund, AC Milan.
Many people are talking about Newcastle having difficulty going far in this big European tournament because Group F is classified as the tightest group or what is called the group of death.

For Eddie Howe's first experience, being in a group like Group F can have a positive impact on Eddie's personality. He can test his coaching strategy against big name teams (PSG, Milan and Dortmund) and if he can get Newcastle past the group stage, it will be easy when facing other teams who have qualified from other groups.

I feel that Eddie Howe was able to make Newcastle compete well in Group F in securing a ticket to the next round. Supporting factors in St. James' Park could be a positive influence for the Magpies.
992  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Behaviours of gamblers you dislike. on: September 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AM
As for me I dislike when gamblers complain of their losses, meanwhile you hear them complain when they are getting winnings.

What about you, what do you dislike ?
That's it, the nature of complaining when you experience defeat, even though the loss you are complaining about is part of the risk that you must be prepared to accept in the game.
He should also behave in a way where he gets every win from the game he plays so that he doesn't need to blame the system or anyone else to take out his losses.

The nature of complaining is an attitude that I don't like the most, let alone being carried away to other places where it shouldn't be done, such as getting angry at my wife which leads to violence.
993  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Am a new comer on: September 01, 2023, 10:36:15 AM
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Not all are like that because some found this forum by themselves and didn't get introduced to Bitcoin and also this forum just like me although most of the newbies who created an account here are like that where they are introduced to Bitcointalk and Bitcoin. Well, that's what should someone do which is to ask guidance to whoever make OP know this forum. There's no better way than that except searching for your own good.
Everyone has goals and the nature of those goals is realistic. In order to achieve goals, everyone needs effort.
The OP came here with a clear purpose and specific goal which he kept to himself even though the general aim was stated in the thread that for him this forum is interesting and wants guidance with extensive knowledge so when we tell him ask for guidance from the person who brought him here for better results maximum for what he wants, although later here he will find wider things because the desire to learn is greater.

The most influential force here is a strong desire to try to become better from not knowing to knowing and from that knowledge it can be channeled to other people who have the same desire.
994  Economy / Economics / Re: Is market manipulation a common occurrence everywhere? on: September 01, 2023, 08:51:06 AM
So, in your opinion, can everything related to money in this world be manipulated? For instance, do you believe that the value of the USD or the largest stock market in the US can be manipulated by a few individuals?
As long as the currency system can still be controlled by authorities who have influence over every policy that is made, then opportunities for manipulation can still be carried out.

USD and other fiat currencies can be controlled by the government.
For altcoins, large amounts of coins or token owners can be manipulated.

What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?
'ruler' who has influence on every policy.
Owner of large capital.


Let's move on to bitcoin as a currency with a good hedge.
995  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: September 01, 2023, 08:25:32 AM
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Trus kalau terburu-buru buat kebutuhan, bisa langsung jual BIDR di harga 0,99 IDR jadi market taker dengan pertimbangan saldonya BIDR kesunat 1,1% saat jadi IDR nantinya.
Tokocrypto setelah menginformasikan kepada penggunanya akan ada pemeliharaan sistem/Maintenance IDR pada 31 Agustus, saya berpikir mereka akan melakukan sesuatu yang berkaitan dengan pembicaraan seputar besaran biaya. Ternyata pihak exchange tokocrypto meluncurkan fitur "konversi BIDR ke IDR". Berdasarkan pengakuan dari pihak exchange tokocrypto, peluncuran fitur konversi BIDR ke IDR terjadi karena mereka mendengar masukan dari pengguna.

Cara dan penjelasan lengkap: https://support.tokocrypto.com/hc/id/articles/19016834584973


996  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] vbetFTN.com | Leading Online Gambling Operator Signature Campaign | Sr. + on: September 01, 2023, 07:08:57 AM
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997  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 31, 2023, 12:21:19 PM
It's likely barcelona gonna face arsenal. There are some clubs that have become my concerns now, especially barcelona. This club always could not go to the play off.
barcelona was always failed in passing the group stage. Xavi will be coming with so many changes in the new squad. It's pretty interesting to see barcelona to play in UCL soon.
Whatever the lottery result, of course it is the best. From the way of the draw, maybe Barcelona can be in the same group as Arsenal because Barcelona and Arsenal are in different pots, Barcelona is in pot 1 while Arsenal is in pot 2.
Barcelona, which failed to get past the group stage due to poor performance with various problems faced, was not due to its presence in a group occupied by other big teams.

This season, I am very curious about the achievements that will be obtained by PSG and Barcelona. Teams like Newcastle United as newcomers this season are also the center of my attention. Are they able to go far or are they just participants who take part in enlivening the match in the group stage?
998  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Am a new comer on: August 31, 2023, 11:08:25 AM
Am new here and I have seen that this forum is a very interesting place and I would love for other members here to guide me through the vast knowledge that is compiled here in this community. Every opinion and suggestions will be welcomed.
I would also like to say welcome to you as a message that this forum is friendly for those who want to learn.

There are several links that you can read to find out what you should do and all of these links are very useful for all of us on this forum.
Usually, a beginner joins because someone brought him here. Ask him specifically for guidance. That is the maximum result.
In my opinion, there is no special skill here, but rather the skill of conveying ideas through writing that is appropriate to the topic of discussion so that it makes it easier for everyone to understand.
999  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Perkembangan Perdagangan Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency sebagai aset komoditas on: August 30, 2023, 01:03:09 PM
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Namun disisi lain pemerintah mengambil keuntungan sepihak dari trader tanpa memberikan dampak signifisikan bagi kita semisal pemotongan pajak dalam jumlah besar dan aturan diterapkan di exchange lokal sangat rumit apalagi akhir - akhir ini ada keputusan dari beberapa exchange mewajibkan kita melapor setiap transaksi deposit yang masuk ke market lokal seperti Tokocrypto.
Saya justru merasakan regulasi yang diterapkan pemerintah saat ini justru menulitkan para trader sendiri, contoh diatas yang saya jelaskan dan ada lagi beberapa respon negatif tentang exchange lokal tidak mulai ramah untuk saat ini.
Secara umum yang saya lihat Indonesia sangat welcome dengan segala macam bentuk investasi. Presiden menginginkan urusan perizinan harus dibuat semudah mungkin supaya memudahkan investor yang ingin berinvestasi dan dibahas dalam rapat resmi. Turunannya langsung dapat kita rasakan disetiap daerah terkait dengan perizinan.
Mengenai kemudahan dan kesulitan dalam urusan investor dibidang kripto, mungkin agan bisa mempertimbangkan sendiri.

Kembali pada kesimpulan saya bahwa dengan tidak melarang aktivitas kripto seperti yang terjadi di negara-negara lain bagi saya sudah sangat bagus. Dari sudut pandang positif lain, pemerintah lewat BAPPEBTI punya tujuan yang sama baiknya didalam bidang kripto yang tidak ingin mempersulit investor.
Kita tunggu saja perkembangan selanjutnya. Pasti akan ada win-win solution dari setiap keluhan.
1000  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin movement: my thought on: August 30, 2023, 12:07:45 PM
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Things like education really need to be increased so that people know about Bitcoin in terms of its use and usage. Bitcoin is quite popular which is synonymous with the term crypto currency.
Because we know that not all countries accept bitcoin easily, by providing knowledge to people around what bitcoin is, its use and usage is much more useful at this time.

This is different from altcoins which are relatively easy to accept as transaction systems such as XRP because they are centralized, while the bitcoin system has no centralized control.
IMO, something like that.
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