Lots of talk from bears who are also losing money on their leveraged positions every day. I say talk because you have already sold or shorted - all you can do is yap or buy the price higher if the market turns.
Waiting for someone else to sell the price lower for you because line on a chart points down. Worked in 2011, right Xiao?
The same can be said for those who went long, especially those at 260-290. and from $600 and above!!  |
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Many wonder: why have rape, torture, domestic killing squads, etc. become the modus operandi in the U.S. Administration Forces? The country has been a thinly-veiled empire since FED was established, but rape, pillage and destruction were not really in the toolkit during the WWII for example. Invariably, people fled the advancing Soviet forces, wanting to surrender to the U.S. forces, who treated them well within reason. Now, all the leading thinkers, innovators, and doers who get into trouble, flee the U.S. for their life, settling to live in places like Cambodia, Austria and New Zealand, and to hide in the places such as Russia! Dr. David Duke knows the answer. But beware: a certain business mogul in Finland once let one of his publications to publish a few pages of David Duke text, translated. The establishment attack was swift and harsh. He lost the magazine but still owns the other businesses, because the enemies have not found a way to totally destroy him without it looking suspicious. Yet. "If you want to know who has the power, check whom you are not allowed to question"
I can slander up to the limits of my conscience: any world leader, any authority in my country of residence, any branch of government, the Justice system or the Army. But questioning the Holocaust puts me up to jail (while the Holodomor is ok, as long as you don't mention the ethnicity of the people who ordered it), and questioning the crimes of non-European immigrants takes me to court (while discussing the crimes of ethnic Finns is ok). ADD: Slandering President Putin is ok for us, but not for people in Russia. Slandering the King of Thailand is ok for us, but not for people in Thailand. Slandering me is ok for anyone, except in the context of Crypto Kingdom where even conscious refusal to address me as Your Majesty, will lead to cancellation of account and forfeiture of assets. These examples tell that in some domains in the world, there are local powers, big and small. Interestingly, the slander of POTUS is not punishable offence, adding to the evidence that the power is somewhere else.Ha! Using my laptop in Ireland ( roaming with a '3' network 4G card), and that site is blocked. Censorship is such an obvious foolishness. Edit: Dont misunderstand me, I think Duke is a misguided fool of the highest order, I'm just commenting on the censorship. "Check whom you are not allowed to question" indeed. |
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No. Idiot bulltards like you convinced them that they would be farting through silk within a month. Didn't work out.
fap...fap...fap...fap I suppose people need to think beyond right and wrong, smart way or foolish way, black or white. We need to think a bit more productively, more creatively, more rationally; that we think from a different angle. Think without fear or favour, neither blind optimism nor sour skeptisism. But then, after all that, there are still people like you.... Were sense of humour bypasses going cheap in your town? Again [furious masturbation] ...aaand  Another bulltard coward. Run away.... |
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No. Idiot bulltards like you convinced them that they would be farting through silk within a month. Didn't work out.
 I suppose people need to think beyond right and wrong, smart way or foolish way, black or white. We need to think a bit more productively, more creatively, more rationally; that we think from a different angle. Think without fear or favour, neither blind optimism nor sour skeptisism. But then, after all that, there are still people like you.... Were sense of humour bypasses going cheap in your town? |
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People dont like the BF because "power". But bitcoin wont survive without some sort of intelligent benign leadership. But this leadership will have "power", and people wont like that... Rinse, Repeat.
You either have cake, or you eat cake. Until people get that into their heads, bitcoin will have some tough times ahead..
You obviously haven't followed Bitcoin development on GitHub. There is a " intelligent benign leadership" very much in place, and it has nothing to do with BF. Developers with Gavin as head wouldn't listen to BF if they think something BF is pushing is not good for Bitcoin. All people who's influence on development is significant are employed by large Bitcoin startups, and are very much interested for Bitcoin to succeed so those startups get to successful IPOs when they would monetize their role as core developers. There are no better guardians of Bitcoins then these group of guys, and they can do very well without Bitcoin Foundation, thank you very much. I'm still on the lists, so considered myself as informed as the next man, but I hope you can clarify things otherwise. Can you explain this leadership structure that is in place, but has nothing to do with the Foundation? I obviously missed that one.  Are you just speculating ( thinking out loud) when you say "Developers with Gavin as head wouldn't listen to BF if they think something BF is pushing is not good for Bitcoin", or do you have a particular exchange that typifies this view? Something other than the usual discussions and different views that exist in a normal, healthy environment ( as opposed to this toxic thread). Explain to me also how these successful startups are going to "monetize their role as core developers"? That sounds ominous. Like they are just in it for the money, or something. There are no better guardians of Bitcoins then these group of guys, and they can do very well without Bitcoin Foundation, thank you very much So, unelected developers with a purely commercial interest in bitcoin ( in 'owning' it) would, in your eyes, be a better, more transparent and democratic solution for the management of bitcoin than a democratically elected foundation, comprising of members drawn from both business and users. Dont get me wrong, I am a developer, and developers have an important role to play in the shaping of a project of this nature. But developers are by their nature very narrow in their perspective, and a more broadly based leadership is needed, with business, technology and end user perspectives. |
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Closing shop folks  Move along, there's nothing to see here anymore. Where is that? Poland? yep. warsaw. From what I understood, they were being attacked by Trolls and scared for their lives? No. Idiot bulltards like you convinced them that they would be farting through silk within a month. Didn't work out. |
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The Bitcoin development has been underfunded and uncoordinated to a point where it risks being unable to deal with major problems if uncovered. Having firm ground somewhere well funded with a lot of bright heads lessens the risk of Bitcoin stumbling on itself. I would love it if other universities or organisations in other countries set up similar centers, but you have to start somewhere.
Thats a great theory. But like communism, I reckon it wont fly. Ito runs Media Labs, and media labs is NOT MIT. Its a commercial operation, and most projects it involves itself in are rooted in hard commerce and license. I worked on a project with them years ago ( a language extension for Mindstorms, NXC) and while they are brilliant in many respects, they are not the ideal partners for Bitcoin. Looking at the current tone and quality of the arguments against the BF at the moment, how do you think they would react to the suggestion that the centralised ( isnt that against the principle?) management of Bitcoin would be handled by a 100% commercially funded group? The "power" of BF is there only to the extent that the rest of the community lets them have it. We don't know exactly how this partnership looks like yet. If it's too unpalatable for the rest of the Bitcoin community they should get on with a competing/complementary body elsewhere. In fact, that's a good idea anyway. See, there is an implied paradox here... People dont like the BF because "power". But bitcoin wont survive without some sort of intelligent benign leadership. But this leadership will have "power", and people wont like that... Rinse, Repeat. You either have cake, or you eat cake. Until people get that into their heads, bitcoin will have some tough times ahead.. |
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Don't think he's sockpuppet, he's just a bit of an _____ sometimes (He may have switched to short). But I could stop quoting him if you like?
Okay, benefit of the doubt time. In what way do you think Ito will help Bitcoin? I mean in the context of the current problems of the foundation, and the overwhelming view of its critics that we dont need a central authority in the first place. edit: BTW Im not shorting bitcoin. I dont treat bitcoin as some stupid horse race or lottery that so many like to believe. The Bitcoin development has been underfunded and uncoordinated to a point where it risks being unable to deal with major problems if uncovered. Having firm ground somewhere well funded with a lot of bright heads lessens the risk of Bitcoin stumbling on itself. I would love it if other universities or organisations in other countries set up similar centers, but you have to start somewhere. Thats a great theory. But like communism, I reckon it wont fly. Ito runs Media Labs, and media labs is NOT MIT. Its a commercial operation, and most projects it involves itself in are rooted in hard commerce and license. I worked on a project with them years ago ( a language extension for Mindstorms, NXC) and while they are brilliant in many respects, they are not the ideal partners for Bitcoin. Looking at the current tone and quality of the arguments against the BF at the moment, how do you think they would react to the suggestion that the centralised ( isnt that against the principle?) management of Bitcoin would be handled by a 100% commercially funded group? |
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Would that be, like, a centralised standards center? A central point to standardise bitcoin? Wow. That wuold be such an advance for bitcoin, That would be brilliant Shit, that reminds me, Greece is broke and has no way to pay back Germany. Can I borrow sum bitcoins? Don't think he's sockpuppet, he's just a bit of an _____ sometimes (He may have switched to short). But I could stop quoting him if you like? Okay, benefit of the doubt time. In what way do you think Ito will help Bitcoin? I mean in the context of the current problems of the foundation, and the overwhelming view of its critics that we dont need a central authority in the first place. edit: BTW Im not shorting bitcoin. I dont treat bitcoin as some stupid horse race or lottery that so many like to believe. |
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Nah, he's just a sockpuppet.
It's now updated with all the new sockpuppets.
Have you paid those nice germans all their money back yet? |
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Would that be, like, a centralised standards center? A central point to standardise bitcoin? Wow. That wuold be such an advance for bitcoin, That would be brilliantWell, I'm pretty sure you weren't trolling, so that is narrowing the possibilities, eh? |
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Would that be, like, a centralised standards center? A central point to standardise bitcoin? Wow. That wuold be such an advance for bitcoin, That would be brilliant |
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I don't think it is money motivating all the alt trolling, it's pathology.
They study the causes and effects of diseases by studying us bitcoiners? How dare you, zealot. Consider your cheek slapped with the glove here in my hand. edit: If i was greek, and a horse's ass, I'd be putting you on a list, buddy. |
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8 comments on this page is ignored....
...yet this guy will still tell you that he is "informed" |
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Now those Greeks... Don't even get me started!
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Yeah, there's a reason for this... They get you into The List in no time... PS: List is now updated. Greeks should spend more time paying sovereign debt than trying to censor the internet. GET A JOB, YOU BUM! |
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The gays in the military debate was pure entertainment gold. Why check the experiences of the dutch and the swedes when you can barf out every brain fart you have to an international audience.
Yup, check with the dutch.... Dutch Police |
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Maybe it has to do with having a basically 2-party system. That tends to polarize. Those not in power tend to feel disenfranchised and resentful.
Minority governments on the other hand, tend to build consensus.
Just my 2 satoshis.
Well, Britain's effectively two parties and the current coalition is the first in a long time. You don't get people frothing at the mouth at each other. Having said that, the most rabidly right wing Brit would probably be regarded as a commie pinko begging to be relieved of their life by their American counterpart. Rational balanced opinions are viewed with suspicion. Polarisation seems to be the theme for politicians and citizens these days. Its just that the extremes make the most noise. But despite the crap they have to live under from their 'government', America seems to have a higher proportion of basically decent people than most other countries. I've experienced random acts of kindness in remote West Virginian owns, and rough New York suburbs that would never have happened in many other counties on the world. The difference between UK and US politics is that UK people dont believe the crap their politicians tell them. (but who else you gonna vote for? Farrage? Ugh.) |
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this list is made just to keep this thread clean while I try to control the information flow.
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Perfect setup for a weekend crash
I think we alread had it @7am and 1pm today. Totally killed the friday evening bonus tm. Should bump along till monday. But then what? |
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...based on calculations I did comparing other currencies with bitcoin and the role it can play as a global currency  My god - He is satoshi!! The founder of bitcoin is on minimum wage in a Norwegian warehouse. Who knew? |
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