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981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 12, 2015, 07:35:30 PM

so we go by average? or pick a winner? because picking a winner seems little bit silly in this poll

Average (weighted average) results for stats fans:
Code:
884 / 1.02 / 0.69

option D (1 st place):
Code:
1024 / 1.00 / 0.80

option A (zero votes)
Code:
888 / 1.00 / 0.80
are pretty close. What's interesting average result is almost the same as option A which got MOST OF proposals and ZERO votes. Huh, that's how statistics work and that's why they say lies, damned lies, and statistics.




982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 12, 2015, 07:23:13 PM
Well, even my tweet yesterday inc that technical detail: https://twitter.com/8bit_8bit_8bit/status/619587429150887936

If at least 10 people who ever wrote anything in this thread will agree till tommorow we need 48 hours more of voting we can open poll and thread to let new votes come (no matter if they did not signed their vote or not voted yet). So you and anyone else who has not signed their vote can do it, also anyone else can vote and sign vote. Deadline: Monday 6PM UTC.

Otherwise, if my summary is correct, voting results will become final and undisputable on Monday, 2015-07-13, 6PM UTC.
983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 12, 2015, 07:01:30 PM
so we go by average? or pick a winner? because picking a winner seems little bit silly in this poll

I planned average, you can read my doubts on pages 146 and 147. Also my voting ideas before (voting by richlist, signing votes using private keys, different ways of submittings, and so on).

drays convinced me to choose "pack" voting.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1028119.msg11808848#msg11808848

Final decision has been published in voting ANN:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1028119.msg11811369#msg11811369

Simplicity won.

984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 12, 2015, 06:49:58 PM

OK so here we are with official results:


Code:
A. 888     |     1.0     |     0.80 	- 0
B. 888     |     1.2     |     0.88 - 0
C. 888     |     0.8     |     0.60 - 0
D. 1024    |     1.0     |     0.80 - 7 (36.84%)   8-bit-Party soco SharpNieSharp LeSmoke GrandTheftNation willapl pinemool
E. 512     |     1.2     |     0.88 - 3 (15.79%)   evb catotune drays
F. 888     |     1.208   |     0.888    - 2 (10.53%)   allZuckedUp Orestes
G. 1000    |     1.0     |     0.10     - 1 ( 5.26%)   blackyblack
H. 888     |     0.888   |     0.4848 - 6 (31.58%)   bstone2 Fedoracoins skidog TimC torrantz blooding_sorrow
Total voters: 19

HerpThyrun vote was not counted - sorry, you were too late mate.

The winner is: D

Please check whether my summary is correct. Please report any mistakes within next 24 hours.

I am pretty surprised that my original proposal which was also proposed by most people (6 vs 2 vs 1 vs 1 vs (...)) got 0 (zero) votes. I voted for D not because I believe that option is much better than others - simply I see no significant difference between A, B, C, D, F, H. I picked D as an example that we are not forced to vote for our proposals. Result is amazing.

Now I will explain why I required all voices to be signed by post thread. After dynamic growth of voices to one of options I was afraid some group might find it funny to abusing our poll. One they will bump one option with dozens of options, second day another option (by changing vote) so our economy will be part someone's game. It has not happened, maybe because of that requirement I created. Anyway I am happy we had no mess here and thanks for all who signed their voice without making theories about secret ballot magic. I appreciate that.

Now when we have basics of new economy settings we can discuss long term things like halvenings or automatic adjustment of masternode price. It will not block current development plan since those things can go next major updates not incoming one.





985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 12, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Poll and voting thread locked.
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [8BIT][MATERNODE COST AND BLOCK REWARDS][PROPOSALS COLLECTED][POLL OPEN] on: July 12, 2015, 06:12:55 PM
Sorry HerpThryun, you were late. 48 seconds late. Dura lex, sed lex.

987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [8BIT][MATERNODE COST AND BLOCK REWARDS][PROPOSALS COLLECTED][POLL OPEN] on: July 12, 2015, 06:00:38 PM
VOTING FINISHED
988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain ( New SuperNET Core Coin ) on: July 12, 2015, 03:03:10 PM
Bitcointalk is one thread of a multitude of information that 99% of people will not read

Are you SYS social community manager? Really? This attitude explains SERIOUS communication problem here.



989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 12, 2015, 12:44:59 PM
Fresh bootstrap.dat is available to download from http://www.8-bit.party/#download
Direct link: http://www.8-bit.party/static/bootstrap.dat.bz2


~ 5 hours of voting left
990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 12, 2015, 06:45:21 AM


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/124468523/uncle-art-a-temporal-shift



991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 11, 2015, 03:01:36 PM
Valid link is: http://www.8-bit.party/static/boostrap.dat-20150628_91334.7z
I will fix one on website and put fresh bootstrap this night (UTC). Now I have to leave, see you later.

992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 11, 2015, 10:10:38 AM
To those who keep their coins on bittrex and cryptsy (if its fixed) wallets - especially to holders of larger amounts: please run some withdrawals and deposits back and forth. We had some shifts in TOP10 yesterday so I wonder which addresses belong to exchanges. Just curious.
993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 11, 2015, 06:23:07 AM
Dear Community,
today at 6PM UTC I will be AFK (it was not planned, I got a call 5 minutes ago) so to keep voting period fixed and not shorten it I have to change poll closing to Sunday 6PM UTC. Exactly 24 hours more, so you have a bit more time to vote / change your vote / convince your friends to vote or chaning decision. Could be less, but I am not sure when exactly I'll be back nor I want to make suprise "hey I am back, end of voting in 5 minutes".
Voting mini-ANN has been already updated I will also tweet about this minor change.
994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 10, 2015, 09:01:10 PM
STEP 5
RESTART DEVELOPMENT

level 1

  • build dev team - architects, programmers, designers, testers, geeks, grumberls
  • launch testnet (cpuminer only PLEASE)
  • create build enviroment

This is one of most complex tasks so far. First we need people. Even if noone will sign up I will act as architect, programmer and tester. Most needed role ATM is tester.
Then I will setup testnet. Please don't use ASIC nor GPU. Get https://github.com/pooler/cpuminer. Once we finish testnet PoW it will no longer matters.
My everyday development enviroment is textmode Linux. I don't use QT wallets, I am happy with RPC calls - getinfo, getbalance, getnewaddres, sendtoaddress etc. Since most of you prefer Windows GUI wallets I have to setup enviroment allowing me to create such builds. Following options are available:
  • manually create build enviroments on each target platform
  • manually create cross-compilation build enviroments for each target platform
  • use GITIAN
I personally prefer gitian. Why? Read https://gitian.org/  It will require a bit more work with setup, however this how Bitcoin and top alts likes DASH are built. 8BIT aims to deliver long-term, reliable, mature product, not scam coin. So we should follow mature coins not scamcoins philosophy in every aspect including software building and distrubution.
Note: ATM my a bit old Mac is broken and I am not gonna invest to repair it nor buy another one. So we will need someone to create Mac builds. How many Mac users we have here now? Mac users, please reply.
995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 10, 2015, 08:10:44 PM
Yes, you can also download bootstrap what will speed up sync process
http://www.8-bit.party/#download

  • download boostrap.dat-20150628_91334.7z
  • uncompress it (7ZIP)
  • rename uncompressed file to bootstrap.dat
  • move bootstrap.dat to your data directory (where wallet.dat lives)
996  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 10, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
Thanks, any support is welcome. At first we will need testers. Are you able to build Windows QT binary?
997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 10, 2015, 05:22:18 PM
Try all of those

39.55.166.152:28348
58.160.130.189:18888
92.12.58.90:18888
94.23.213.47:10192
84.193.211.3:9999
101.165.90.37:18888
104.207.158.77:9998
123.243.223.20:18888
130.180.65.30:18888
146.0.32.101:18992
146.0.32.101:18992
146.0.32.101:18888
151.224.69.76:9999
998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 10, 2015, 02:06:43 PM




Brief summary of where we are to see what's next. We definetely need new thread with up-to-date ANN.



STEP 1
Increase community confidence

intro
  • All deadlines we give will be met.
  • Accept 8BIT donations only
  • Offer 8BIT donations only
  • Show, don't tell - as often as possible
  • Gather all folks interested in supporting 8BIT, haters may stay, haters may move on
  • Let community talk. Polls will decide
  • In demoscene we trust


STEP 2
RESTORE MISSING INFRASTRUCTURE

level 1
level complete
  • Buy a domain
  • Rent and configure servers
  • Set up anti-DDoS shield
  • Launch first, basic version of Block Explorer

level 2
level complete
  • create temporary website - backup of current coin state: links, downloads
  • create new github repository with current codebase as initial commit
  • create and publish blockchain boostrap - allow newcomers to run their masternodes faster

level 3
level complete
  • Rich List - how rich are owners of TOP 100 (do we need more? tell me) addresses?
  • Distribution - how total coin supply looks compared to top10, top20... top 100 addresses, funds frozen for masternodes, Bittrex exchange orderbook and top50 accounts?
  • Masternode Profitability Calculator - how much masternode operators earn, is it profitable to fund one, what is ROI here?

level 5 4
  • gaming faucet

STEP 3
SOCIAL MEDIA

level 1
progress: 50%
  • Twitter
  • Facebook

STEP 4
ADJUST COIN ECONOMY

level 1
level complete
  • brainstorm and collecting options for incoming vote

level 2
no formal level announce
  • voting








New level TBA today (UTC). No, not related to new thread on BCT.




999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 10, 2015, 07:51:21 AM
2. 8bit requires older version of secp256k1: git checkout 729badff148a00aebedce663e4ebb5a039170d9b
Note this is temporary step. I will update 8bit code to use latest version of secp256k1.

1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4] on: July 09, 2015, 08:01:27 PM
Staking is also essential for the network, as the blocks are generated by this.
I agree, that's why I consider solution that affects staking addresses as drawback.
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