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981  Economy / Economics / Re: So, you want to be rich? All of you ? on: July 11, 2017, 01:23:18 PM
Why people come to bitcoin and crypto-currencies? the main target of all of them is to follow the story of this guys who invested in Bitcoin several years ago and now they are reach, but I think this train was gone.
This is not my target to become rich with crypto-currencies, I would like to have like 500$ monthly from all this and I would be happy  Cheesy

No, they might be rich but definitely not reach.

And don't even dare to compare yourself to the pioneers of bitcoin.
Most of them didn't come for the money , they came for the concept of bitcoin and the advantages in transfers of value it might give to the world.

The rest on the other hand are in just for the money.

We are all dreaming of becoming rich one day. And we can see that it is possible to happen with bitcoin. All of us wants to secure our future and our way of living by becoming a secured person of earning good salary. But with bitcoin we want to make sure that everything is going to be abundant in terms of financial.

Tomorroww you will wake up and see that it is not possible Wink.

People have many reasons to say but depends on your view. As for me, I'm not thinking of getting rich but to live simply with peace of mind and having a positive life with my family. My aim is to experience the life of a bitcoiner who has been encountering many obstacles in life,financially thus, it's not about getting rich because it is by chance. If I want it then I must work for it so I could be one someday. However, I will be facing many challenges again especially people who aren't my close but trying to be closer because of money. Technically, they'll remember me because of something. That's reality.
982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling, Money is not everything on: July 11, 2017, 12:59:28 PM
I think it may still be a source of income but i think its right that its all about the money first big or small amount of money is needed to get extra income from it,its just youre playstyle and where you bet is needed in playing
Well on my view, money is not really something to gamblers sometimes because they just want to release stress from whatever circumstances they are facing everyday. It's either from work, family or even friends. On the other hand,  those other people who gamble make themselves get extras from the money they use for gambling because they are afraid of losing chances of winning. The more they bet the more they think they can win. So I guess is not the money alone that triggers the mind of a gambler to play.
983  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Real life usage of bitcoin on: July 11, 2017, 12:31:02 PM
If segwit happens and be successfully done then bitcoin will be more capable. It will give people and business groups confidence to use bitcoin. Right now there are lots of land-based and online stores accepting bitcoin. Online betting is also growing and its forecast is it will grow into a billion market soon.

You have the point there. Bitcoin will be upgraded if people continue to invest and take part in any linkages that bitcoin has. However, if we depend only in an online betting, what will be assurances that people will get and will they trust even more? My concern is , we always hear about scammers in online business so how can we get rid of them since we are living now in technology by means of communicating and doing businesses.
984  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: July 11, 2017, 10:55:54 AM
I almost got disappointed with trading when I lost almost 40 percent of total capital of one of my account with poloniex. Although I end up leaning a lot of lessons from the lost and it happened that way to me because, I was relying on my experience of technical analysis with forex which happen to be a different thing entirely from altcoin or crypto currency trading.
to me i personally never disappointed in trading although for most of the time i face a lot of lost but never disappoint. whenever i fell disappointed in trading i tried to change my planing and trading strategies. and after that i really become succeeded and made good profit. therefore i think there is no use to disappoint in trading but to continue our struggle with a new planning.

I'm disappointed because I first thought I can make my bitcoin like x5 in a month in altcoin trading. And I faced the negative face of the markets. I lost too much and the market is still reddish.
people become disappointed when they lose money continuously. but only those people who do not have good experience in trading or investment, while those people who have good experience in trading they know about the nature off trading and therefore experience peo do not lose heart and try to change their planing and never disappointed in trading or investment.

Honestly,I'm not disappointed for I have that strong patience so I can wait if bitcoin changes over a period of time. What's more important to me is that I can contribute in the sense that I still have time to manage my personal life. Trading is quite difficult to handle when a person doesn't have any courage to take possible risks. Good thing is bitcoin can increase in minimal time yet it is certain. So I'm not disappointed.
985  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin End World Poverty? on: July 10, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
It wont help to resolve world's poverty but bitcoin can provide someone economical stability. As long as they are knowledgeable on how tho earn bitcoins. Poverty is a very big issue that the world is facing. It would need more focus from the world leaders to reach out the poorest.
It will not provide anything and I believe that bitcoin or even other coins can never solve this issue. Poverty is not only a big issue but it is also a main thing which connects to humankind. If there is not poverty, there will be no human
Correct, a percentage of poverty will always be present, the same thing goes with unemployment. Bitcoin cannot solve or even alleviate the impact of poverty, 
the only thing it can do, in rare and individual cases, to make you earn an extra income. For example, if I'm taught about mining, I might be able to make some
extra money, but that's a whole different thing which has nothing to do with poverty.
That's too broad. Poverty is a serious case in the society in which we live in. It doesn't rely on the case of bitcoin for it's totally different. The main reason why some people get interested in bitcoin is that they have an extra income using it. Using it alone without other support is quite difficult too. We have to survive on a daily basis and much more in making some money everyday counts for survival. It's impossible that poverty will end in our country.
986  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason why people do not get Bitcoin. on: July 10, 2017, 05:24:23 PM
Many people do not know about Bitcoin. Many people do not even care about it. They think there are many risks in bitcoin. If they are afraid to invest in Bitcoin, there is a loss. They are ignorant about Bitcoin But bitcoin enough money to earn. It can be invested safely.
Exactly! In addition to that, one thing that is highlighted one is the trust. Everything starts in trusting to whatever the case may impose. Regardless of the information about bitcoin,investment or its risks, if someone is truly interested, despite the fact that it may lose some amount and if the person is not business minded for sure he won't take any risk at all. However, if the person is really in need of income then he has to take the opportunity. If it doesn't work to him then he has to choose freely to other opportunities that offer for his desire. So that's it, trust is important to any circumstances why people do not get bitcoin.
987  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: July 10, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
yes is u predictable job I'm also lossing money in trading because I'm buy coins in the pumping momentum . I suggest the good time to buy coins is in lower price
Yes, but becareful with the price of coins is in lower price because it can be more more lower price, so actually we must know about the trend of price, the good time to buy altcoins is when started sideaway (stable) or wait until there are sign on your indicators to buy the coins and it needs skill of analisys technical for makes prediction the price.
Just make it very simple, if you have bought a coin and the price continue to go down all you need is to have patience and wait for it until it rises again.
It's not hard to understand how to make money in trading but not only that you are smart mentality but you also have to be strong emotionally.

Since many alt fail, that strategy will lost you a lot of money ! I'd say the opposite strategy is required, define a stop loss limit and keep to it.

I doubt that you really trade altcoin because if you, you will not chase the market when it's going up. Altcoins don't just die everyday. Maybe coins that aren't known at all. But major coins like ETH, and LTC will surely go back up when the price went down.

Ups and downs in prices are very natural to trading.. In a matter of fact, if there are no ups and down, there is no way for a day trade to do the trading. That is why we should always embrace the ups and downs as part of our trade because without them, we won't have short term eaning profits.
Perhaps, it will be like that. Trading is sometimes fun despite the product that you are introducing. On the contrary, there are weaknesses on trading especially when it comes to value of bitcoin that has falling point. Lucky enough also if it increases soon. In addition, there is no constant value of everything for whatever circumstance, even in all businesses there is rising and falling of its value. Therefore, trading is unpredictable job.
988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: July 10, 2017, 02:44:13 PM
People who gamble are(generally) those who have no problem in fulfilling their basic needs.
People gamble as a recreation.
But when gambling leads to addiction, it becomes a social disease.
Gambling is like a cigarette. First you take it at your will and if you do it in an uncontrolled way, it will take you.

Yes it is some kind of sickness and I cant get it out of myself. I dont really care about it because Im not really thinking about getting profit anymore. Im just thinking about getting some fun when I play and Im good with it. I have fun and I only spend a small amount so I dont think that it really control me

All thoughts are not to be said right, because sometimes we turn every thought of what was to become our beliefs, so it's better you do an analysis of your mind and also looking for someone who can be trusted to tell the truth do you believe is true or not. because gambling is definitely bringing someone getting a disease (addiction). It all can not avoid gambling because it is definitely going to give it, even though you make a plan
 
The main task of gambling is to earn money for their owners and not for gamblers. To play or not to play is a personal affair of everyone. But not everyone is guided by common sense when it comes to all gambling.
The house always wins when it comes to gambling, if they didn't they wouldn't be in business at all, we still gamble because we hepefully know that one day our luck may shine and we will be winning a lot of money, thats why we are still in the game.

Indeed, and because of this house, we lost too much, but of course it is ourselves to be blamed since we are the one who decided to try gambling in the first place, keeping on doing gambling because of our losses that we want to win back to prove that we are really lucky on this, but the truth is we're not. We are just some risk taker who do wants to earn money in the easiest way.
That's it. Though I'm not into gambling however, for those people who like the idea of any kind of gambling maybe they are addicted that no matter how many times they lose they keep on gambling. Once a person is addicted, they don't mind how much money they've lost but they devour for more. The worst is that even properties if they have, they'll use it for the sake of gambling matters.
989  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why should people use Bitcoin? on: July 10, 2017, 11:11:11 AM
Bitcoin is the future of money, or so they say.


I would like to hear your opinions on Why should people use Bitcoin?



The bitcoin network is an easier payment network, faster to use than other payment methods. You do not need to register any information and have access to a world wide market where you can earn and spend.  Smiley
There are many reasons why you should use bitcoin. It is bitcoin trading very quickly if you transfer money from one person to another you need to provide a lot of information and pay a bitcoin fee for a very cheap cost. Moreover, the bad guys can not steal bitcoin's payment information so the security is very high, you do not have to trust anyone.
That's for sure. Bitcoin may be use for some reasons and it's the easiest and fastest way to transact money. Another thing is that there is no tax yet for its transaction and of course it is security wise. In addition, it serves people the best way to save bitcoin as well and a sort of income. That's why people should use bitcoin.
990  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose? on: July 10, 2017, 07:15:04 AM
I spend it both,for fun and future,because of i spend it just for fun and not think about the future,there is nothing left for My life and also if i use it as my future purpose i can use it for make my own company
When bitcoin is your main source of earning you cannot help but also spend because you have the needs that you have to buy in order to survive.
Working and earning bitcoin is a great opportunity for people who are also business minded, they will surely benefit when holding bitcoin longer.
This is fun for me but I'm getting serious to it, I will consider bitcoin as a big part of my activities in life so I could spend a lot of time to focus.
Actually most people consider here as source of earning as for me I consider it both fun and for future purpose. Fun it's because anytime I can check my email and at the same time the progress of bitcoin. I like checking emails or how things progress and it's a sort of fun for me. On the other hand, it also serves as for future purposes because I have many goals in life. One of which is I'm planning to refurbish my house someday. I really set a goal in everything and I know it will happen once I think of it I make sure that it will happen not just only in mind but in reality. Therefore,both fun and future purposes is my way of saving bitcoin.
991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - 60hr Token sale begins July 15 on: July 10, 2017, 05:05:55 AM
5 more days the project pillar will start, can not wait for the day.
I will participate in this project, hopefully the token pillar will be sold out quickly.

The big flash crowdsale is near to come and No matter what happened this Project will be successful due to insistent demand from investors and thru effort of all participants of promotion and also to the team behind the Pillar project. I can't wait to use Pillar project as a storage of all my tokens.
This will be a big break for this Pillar project. For sure many are excited in this campaign not to mention,tokens will be outnumbered for the coming sale as well as people. It will be a great experience of mine yet a fulfilling one. Through the consistent effort of investors and participants no wonder it will build higher demands of tokens. Soon enough, success will be attained.
992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - 60hr Token sale begins July 15 on: July 04, 2017, 11:45:41 PM
Is any agreement with any market yet? Will tokens on Bittrex?

Well In my own views about this project Pillar, the agreement will be possible at bittrex has to deal with how sufficient and profitable it is when it comes to investors trust ratings. That’s why for now as per reviews on social media discussions parallel information with signature campaigns, good feedbacks has come to be popular on every side of the story of the topics. So we must have to deal seriously with the aim of this project and of course, the result of our hard work and strong dedications will prevail and give us better monetary blessings to spend for our family needs.
993  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin making people an Introvert on: July 04, 2017, 11:26:32 PM
Oh god. You're asking for green trust for another one of your shitty spam topics? Please.

Just because something is electronic and based online, it doesn't mean that it will make someone become an introvert. Stocks are traded online, PayPal is online, there's no difference. You're just trying to spam.
Actually it depends on the person. If that person has really an introvert personality since he was a kid, I guess it will trigger more his character but so far it doesn't make sense sometimes because through technology, people who are unheard are very expressive with their thoughts. It seems like their free will to expose themselves in social medias. Beyond their smiles, they hide thousand of emotions. In connection with bitcoin matter, no it won't make a person introvert, I,myself as an introvert person is still the same yet I can be flexible or socialize others and still communicate people face to face.
994  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin provide income on line? on: July 04, 2017, 11:00:17 PM
Income from online is very much and varied. Some work and get paid using dollars, or get paid using bitcoins. It depends on which one you choose. I think for your question very good .. to get your bitcoin just sit reading the contents of this forum. There are so many offers in this forum that offer bitcoin as a means of paying for what you do. You can follow the signature or give a reward to other users about the skills you have .. as if proficient in the world of design .. you can offer your skills to members in need
It is always better to get paid in bitcoins rather than any other currency. This claim can be supported by the fact that if anyone receives a payment in bitcoins, the value of bitcoins will increase overtime increasing the payment/profit of the receiver which will be beneficial as compared other payment options.

One thing when we are getting into bitcoin. Bitcoin is not a fixed on one price like USD and other local currencies it is changing where it is good to get gold result in withdrawal.

Getting paid in bitcoins will be beneficial only if the price of bitcoin is higher and stable or else it will be very risky to get paid in bitcoins as price goes down in future then you will be getting less amount of fiat in hands and that is not a profitable decision to make.

You have a point there. At least bitcoin gives people the chance to earn money depending on its decreasing and increasing rate case. However, in getting income online,it is somehow challenging and at the same time it's time constraint. We have to be patient for our pay though sometimes others don't get its betterment. Despite the risk people will still  have it because they've given trust already.
995  Economy / Speculation / Re: price getting down on: July 04, 2017, 10:42:15 PM
I hope it drops a bit more. atleast at 2000$. time to stock up indeed!
1500 $ I prefer ...
It does not matter then go up another 2400 $
Its time to buy dollars and exchange with Bitcoin. Grin
The price of Bitcoin goes up and down, if someone dumps a portion of his coin then they have a small chance where they could make a few bucks if the price gets a little lower. Considering the transaction cost and Bitcoin Exchange fees there is a bunch of people that don’t calculate that and lose a bunch of money doing that though.

A bit smarter for choosing the right moment. Buying with 50% of this capital is quite safe. Then sell it when the price is attractive. Cool
Today the price seems little increased and we're getting to cross $2500. The growth is taking place in a stable manner, but in the past the price increase was happening in big multiple and in a short falls to some extent and then insert again stabilty growth happens keeping the price high. Expect the same to happen before the month end.

People are just waiting to see what the UASF "threat" gives, I fully expect a quick surge once that threat comes and goes.

It seems to me that people exaggerate when they speak about August 1. I do not understand why all this excitement. After all, under any circumstances you can make a profit. Be ready to buy coins at a low price)

With that exaggerated thoughts about August , I see it people were just afraid of price of bitcoin to fall down. Knowing that speculations with negative ideas could really create greater confusion to investors that might made them decide to sell at this stage of price nowadays. I think that those bigger investors really wanted to take all the opportunity they will have if more people sells into panic, and certainly this will pump their holdings by that time price will climb up again. To give an advice for to all who holds bigger values of btc, well don't get panic this situation is avoidable and everything is within control fluctuatuons normally happens that's why price goes down and up many times.
996  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: July 04, 2017, 10:14:58 PM
In my experiences setting limits to your gambling makes it even more dangerous.

I mean when you bet with limits in mind you always bet according to that while I personally believe and experienced that free flowing betting is much better.
Suppose I have a fixed deposit of 0.01 then I would play too little at a time which maybe is good, but you cant win anything significant from that.

Yes that's a good option to do with that certain gambling idea and I also believe that it's good to have limit so that you will not loss all of the funds you have if ever you're not lucky with your bets. That's only a fun gaming amount of using 0.01 for betting your gambling plays and you really don't expect a bigger wins from your smaller betting amounts figured. There's no danger of the bets you have if you don't give serious attention on your game plays, but making it as enjoyable acitvity will not result to danger of funds due to limitations you have set.
997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - 60hr Token sale begins July 15 on: July 04, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
After a lot of research

I think I am going to participate in this ICO, the team loosk great and I really like the idea
that's great, i am also thinking of participating in ICO since this is really a good project. and i can see that it will end so fast, so better not to be late Smiley

Well, I think joining the ico is the best decisions to do now; hurry up before it's over and you won't regret because the project Pillar is a great project to invest with. Practically because of fast growing investors of this project near end is possible so much better to invest early rather than missing it, so being late is like lossing an opportunity.
998  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So I want to get into trading. on: July 04, 2017, 04:33:08 PM
Obviously, I need BTC to get in but it seems like everything is high right now.  Should I wait till BTC is < 2k? Or ETH < 200? I'd like to get in and start trading alt coins.  But for me to maximize my profits in USD I need to wait till BTC is at a reasonable cost.  Or do you guys see it climbing to 3k in the next couple of months?
You can trade anytime, different is the target you want to achieve. I think you should be able to take advantage of the standard but can constantly get it rather than get big profits but only once. Think that trading is a job that requires consistency so you can benefit greatly from many of the selected decisions.
I agree. Trading is so broad when it comes to the product but in the world of bitcoin becomes more challenging because it isn't an obvious way to get money. However, it may consider as untrusted to some but it's up to others opinion whether they believe the power of bitcoin's advantages in trading or not. For now focus on trading bitcoin at your own convenience.
999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC getting too expensive to gamble with on: July 04, 2017, 02:19:33 PM
What other cryptocurrency are you using and which casino are you playing at? BTC is getting to expensive to be depositing and playing in just BTC.
Ever since the price of bitcoins skyrocketed, I don't use bitcoins or other crypto currency to gamble anymore, I used to do that alot and I have realised the error of my ways. I just use coupons I buy with my own money now.
lol nothing has changed significantly by the way it's just about value ,
and it's easy to handled you might know about that too ,
using cryptocurrency always better than fiat where fees is everywhere ,
cryptocurrency gives you everything you need to do transaction online easily without any complicated rules.
Its the advantage on using cryptocurrencies which theres no hassle on making use of it and there are lots of coins in the market if you find out that using bitcoin would be expensive but it doesnt really matter at all since you are still basing on dollar value which you can anytime adjust the value of bitcoin would equivalent to bitcoin but if you insist there are coins which you can use though.
You have the point there. Actually, the value has its ways to resolve or back into its own rate. Bitcoin may be difficult to gamble with but it's worth your wait once  it is at the peak. Though the only thing you do is waiting patiently. Being invisible in the real world where people use cash, bitcoin has its secrecy in terms of using it. Basically, even if you gamble it's not that quick to gain what you bet for many reasons.
1000  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is instant way to get rich ? on: July 04, 2017, 01:20:34 PM
It is impossible to get rich instantly. Bitcoin is no exception. The price of bitcoin soared in 2013, but even so, I have not heard about a large number of millionaires. Such myths of course play into the hands of all users of bitcoin. The more people believe it the more the price of bitcoin.
I couldn't agree more. However, bitcoin has played several instances in gambling,business like trading products. It's not visible to everybody. There is a value yet it's not being disseminated in the society hence, people can't assure by now whether they'll be rich. Perhaps, some could be but instant way? I don't think so. But if the investors have plenty of money but not millionaire, I guess it's enough to be a millionaire soon because he can take the risk if he's willing to invest to bitcoin.
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