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981  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinSports.com - All Inclusive Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino on: August 27, 2013, 01:59:43 AM
Are BTC withdraws instant for those that do not take a bonus of any kind?
982  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: LITTLE MISS ZIGZAG BTC FOR MONEY PACK AND OTHERS on: August 27, 2013, 01:51:57 AM
Uh will you use escrow or send first? If you'll send first, I would easily buy up to $5000 worth at $100 a piece.
983  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - LIVE ROULETTE - [INVEST] - BEST CASINO OF 2013 on: August 27, 2013, 01:17:10 AM
To be honest, here's what I think happened:
Casinobit's owner while drunk, deposited the bankroll into Just-Dice and proceeded to lose all the coins. The end.
984  Economy / Gambling / Re: Looking for someone to match a total bases Prop I like, I'm paying 30 cent juice on: August 27, 2013, 12:56:24 AM
Woo! 4-1 Miggy right now with that Home Run he just hit. Hopefully Donaldson doesn't blast one too.
985  Economy / Gambling / Re: 10 BTC Drawing! 0.05 BTC entry, Provably fair! Multiple Winners! 99% Payout. on: August 26, 2013, 11:33:39 PM
Okay I will look into this. I don't understand coding or entering in the stuff, so if I can duplicate this I could use this if others want me to.
986  Economy / Gambling / Re: 10 BTC Drawing! 0.05 BTC entry, Provably fair! Multiple Winners! 99% Payout. on: August 26, 2013, 11:08:53 PM
You're right Dooglus - We will be using the order the .05 are rec'd according to:
http://blockexplorer.com/address/1EaG64J9UvEPzcamBAeZeP5AmzP8ieBDxn

1st rec'd gets the first ticket, 2nd .05 rec'd gets 2nd ticket and so on.
987  Economy / Gambling / Re: 10 BTC Drawing! 0.05 BTC entry, Provably fair! Multiple Winners! on: August 26, 2013, 11:01:47 PM
Uhm, you should actually post the hash of the secret seed, let people collectively decide on a user seed, and use an offline system for doing the rolls so we all can be (twice) sure that the nonce is starting on 1. If you need, I can point to some code that does the rolls exactly in the same manner that just-dice does, and the secret seed is also picked by using OpenSSL.
I could possibly do that, the problem is doing multiple rolls, it could become very complicated and leave room for accusation or something.

I'm not seeing how this is complicated, care to explain ? I'm not seeing how people are going to accuse you if you do the way I mentioned.
Because how would drawing a secret without anyone else seeing be able to prevent me from basically redrawing the secret so that a certain address would win (thus someone would say I own that address that won 4 BTC). If I use OpenSSL to draw secret seeds, someone else would have to verify that I did not draw more then 1 or draw more then 11 whichever people decide. I would have to record it I guess and still people could say, you recorded it more then once. Thus, the fairest way I see it, is to use someone else's dice site which has public lookup of draws, to prove I only drew 11 times or however many was needed to pick 11 winners.
988  Economy / Gambling / Re: 10 BTC Drawing! 0.05 BTC entry, Provably fair! Multiple Winners! on: August 26, 2013, 10:58:27 PM
Yes its in order of transaction ID's on blockchain. 1st .05 received would have the first ticket and so on.

That couldn't be less clear.

Do you mean on the blockchain, or on blockchain.info?  Because they're different.
Blochchain.info. You look up the wallet address and the first rec'd .05 would get the first ticket. When the balance of the wallet is 9.95 BTC then the next .05 BTC would get the 200th ticket.
989  Economy / Gambling / Re: 10 BTC Drawing! 0.05 BTC entry, Provably fair! Multiple Winners! on: August 26, 2013, 10:48:15 PM
Uhm, you should actually post the hash of the secret seed, let people collectively decide on a user seed, and use an offline system for doing the rolls so we all can be (twice) sure that the nonce is starting on 1. If you need, I can point to some code that does the rolls exactly in the same manner that just-dice does, and the secret seed is also picked by using OpenSSL.
I could possibly do that, the problem is doing multiple rolls, it could become very complicated and leave room for accusation or something.

Also, not realizing this possible flaw beforehand, I am now going to be pressing "randomize" to change the server seed before the 11 or however many draws. This is to prevent Dooglus from seeing what 10 numbers would be drawn and thus buying those specific tickets to win. Updated the OP to include this rule.
990  Economy / Gambling / Re: 10 BTC Drawing! 0.05 BTC entry, Provably fair! Multiple Winners! on: August 26, 2013, 10:44:03 PM
I'm OK with this, and can provide a list of the numbers rolled by account 99900.

How are you determining the order of the tickets?  I would imagine it's based on the order of their transactions in the blockchain, but it would be worth stating that.  Note that blockchain.info and blockexplorer.com show transactions in different orders.  I believe blockexplorer.com shows them in the same order as they actually appear in the block, so that would be the one to use.
Yes its in order of transaction ID's on blockchain. 1st .05 received would have the first ticket and so on.
991  Economy / Gambling / 10 BTC Drawing! 0.05 BTC entry, 1st drawing completed, closed for now on: August 26, 2013, 10:35:19 PM
Hi guys,
I am interested in setting up a fixed pool drawing, hopefully one that can grow to as much as 50 BTC if popular. For this one though, I am going to start with a set 10 BTC pool, where there are 200 tickets, each costing .05 BTC.
Here is how it will work:
Each ticket costs 0.05 BTC (roughly $5 in USD), and there will a total of 11 winners.
Prizes:
4 BTC - 1 winner
2 BTC - 1 winner
1 BTC - 2 winners
0.50 BTC - 3 winners
0.10 BTC - 4 winners
Total paid of 10 BTC = 9.90 BTC, I keep .10 BTC and pay the tx fees.

Tickets sold so far: 4 / 200.

How will it be provably fair?

I have thought about this and I've decided the best way, is to do it is as followed:
I am going to use Just-Dice's rolling of the dice to pick the winners. Basically I will draw 11 and only 11 numbers on the account 99900 (I own this). Before I draw ten times I will press "randomize" on the site to randomize the server seed. This will be the only time this user will be used. Each ticket of the 200 tickets gives you a .5% chance of winning. The first ticket bought will have numbers 00.00.00 to 00.49.99. The 2nd ticket bought will have 00.50.00 to 00.99.99. Third would have 01.00.00 to 01.49.99, and so on. The 200th ticket would have numbers 99.50.00 to 99.99.99.

Here is an example draw:
The first draw will be for .10 BTC, and I roll a 03.42.99, whoever bought the 7th ticket bought would be the winner. No ticket can win more then once, in the unlikely chance that a subsequent roll falls within another ticket's winning number range, a new number would be drawn/rolled. All of this will be verified by Dooglus of course (I'll ask him to post here to make sure its okay with him) for the 10 rolls and any possible following rolls. This account will not be used for real wagers, and whether the bets win will not matter, only the random numbers drawn will matter.

Order of winning number draws:
The winning prize numbers would go from least to greatest, so the 11th roll would be for who wins the 4 BTC.

Please send 0.05 or more to 1EaG64J9UvEPzcamBAeZeP5AmzP8ieBDxn. Each ticket costs .05, feel free to buy more then 1 ticket per transaction.

Please send ONLY from a wallet you own, winnings will be sent back to the same address that the BTC was sent from!

How do we know we can trust you?
Check my reputation thread in my signature for many examples of me escrowing or purchasing where sent first to 10 BTC or more in one transaction. If you don't trust me, thats fine, everyone is entitled to their opinions. All entries will remain untouched in that address above that I own.

How long do we have to wait for this to fill?
If after 30 days from the first ticket being bought, the drawing has not filled, I will refund all bets. Since this is order sensitive for tickets bought (your order decides the winning number range you get) I will not refund any tickets early for any reason.

Will you be entering this drawing?
In the future I may enter it if people allow it but for the first one to prevent any accusations of being "in" on the drawing, I definitely will not be entering.

When will the drawing occur?
When all 200 tickets are sold, I will announce the specific time and date of the drawing, in which I will be chat under the 99900 account so you could be there when I first announce what ticket # wins each drawing. The drawing will occur within 48 hours of the 200th ticket being purchased.

I have another question?
Feel free to PM me or comment here Smiley


List of tickets and their owners:
1. 179QD   2. 1ApYR   3. Harshbuttrue (SWC)   4. 1GdQZ   5-200. LightLord.

Basically Lightlord owns 02.00.00 to 99.99.99. If any of the 11 numbers are below 02.00.00 then someone else wins that amount haha.
992  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.5 BTC to get me out of a pickle on: August 26, 2013, 10:04:10 PM
Bitinstant.com
993  Economy / Gambling / Re: Looking for someone to match a total bases Prop I like, I'm paying 30 cent juice on: August 26, 2013, 09:38:39 PM
Okay sending over 3.30 BTC in one sec. Account name is the same. 3.30 BTC to win 2.357 BTC.

3.30 Sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/e4e4f9930588cefd6b1d4ab22208ab1e12d3592ee21ec4b9bace6ef2bb135e1f

Take out the 3300 mBTC or do a manual writeup ticket for the bet. The grading rules are seen above obviously.
994  Economy / Gambling / Re: Looking for someone to match a total bases Prop I like, I'm paying 30 cent juice on: August 26, 2013, 09:29:58 PM
Line has moved against me to -140. Willing to pay -140, max risk of 3.30 BTC. Updated the OP.
995  Economy / Gambling / 9/27 Looking for someone to match ANOTHER total bases prop bet I like! on: August 26, 2013, 07:53:10 PM
I found a matchup today I like for total bases props in one of my cashbooks. Their limit for the bet is low which is why I'm looking here to get it played in BTC. I will pay the juice.

Here is the matchup and line:

9/27/13 Baltimore Orioles vs Boston Red Sox
BAL Adam Jones Total Bases -105
vs.
BOS Dustin Pedroia Total Bases -125.


I am looking to put 0.75 BTC on Dustin Pedroia more total bases to win 0.60 BTC. Yes that is right, I am willing to pay the 15 cent per side juice. You would have Adam Jones.

Looking to get this fully filled, but will accept .30 or more on Jones from people here. So minimum would be you risking .30 BTC to my .375 BTC.

Total bases is described as this for scoring purposes: Single= 1, Double= 2, Triple= 3, Home Run= 4. Walks = 0, advancing bases due to stealing or other batters = 0. Basically its what the runner gets from their at bats. Errors do not count as anything. Example: Batter singles on a ground ball to left fielder, batter advances to 2nd on throwing error by left fielder. The scoring for this would be 1, not 2. Error resulting in on base at first equals 0 as well.

I can hold the coins and payback my part + yours if I lose to whatever address you want. Both my coins and yours would be in one of my blockchain wallet addresses and would stay there until the event is over. Also fine with using an escrow such as Dooglus (owner of Just-dice) or someone else. JohnK probably not an option because this is a time sensitive bet and obviously would take too long to contact him.

To answer some questions:
1) If the # of bases is a tie, each player is refunded the amount they risked. No win or loss, I will pay the tx fees out of pocket to send you back your amount.
2) Both players must have at least 1 successful at-bat (walk, hit, or out) for the bet to be valid. If the player is injured before batting once (example: hit by pitch and removed from game), the bet is canceled. Refunds paid out. If one of the players does not start in the game, the bet is canceled.

Let me know if interested!
996  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is PrimeDice really (provably)fair? on: August 26, 2013, 06:53:40 PM
They may be out of hand but you know the way to get rid of them and yet you still won't do it. Stop changing the server seeds. You do that and boom all the allegations go away. Doesn't it surprise you that YOUR site is the only one ever seriously questioned on whether or not it is provably fair? I don't care about the coins I lost to your site, thats old history. However, I stick to this story and for someone to change their opinion based on the simple words of someone else, no matter how nice they are, would be out of character. It might come across as rude however I am allowed to state my opinion. I have not left you any negative trust, nor will I ever because my belief is theory.

Change your software to stop changing server seeds every roll and boom, all of these accusations go away because ONLY then is your software 100% PROVABLY FAIR.

Don't call people out for being rude or whatever when this case has been brought up by others highly trusted such as Dooglus and you fail to change it even after.

If I was a honest owner and saw a way to make my system 100% provably fair, no way of disputing being rigged or anything, since brute forcing sha256 is basically impossible, then would you change it? Yes, if you truly wanted to prevent any accusations from ever occurring. This lack in your provably fair method has been outted for over a month YET you do not change it. That and the whole MBitcoin and practically everytime I talk to someone about Primedice they mention "yeah the losing streaks there are really harsh", would definitely be reasonable enough evidence to definitely post an accusation here.


997  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is PrimeDice really (provably)fair? on: August 26, 2013, 06:04:37 PM
Primedice has made +500 BTC in less then 10,000 BTC wagered, more like less then 5000 BTC since intro of PD2 a profit of 5-10%, nowhere near 1%. My honest to god belief is that they have software that monitors your bettting styles and thus if you bet constantly over or under, they give you a seed that will have less then expected results if you continue betting the same pattern. As much as Stunna is nice and all, I truly believe it is rigged as the profits made are just unrealistic. Started with a bankroll of roughly 300 BTC, and has made roughly 1800-1900 BTC on 88,000 BTC wagered, A HUGE amount greater then 1%. Bankroll sitting at 2200 last I checked. Also if you read the primedice thread, the user Mbitcoin has basically gone nonexistant, since winning the 200 BTC. I truly believe that Stunna or a friend of his won the 200 BTC to draw publicity for the site. It did work. There was no tx ever posted so we can't even assume 200 BTC was paid out. This is all theory, and to all I would advise using random.org or another software to randomly choose whether you pick high or low every time you roll. Change your client seed everytime. Also, there is no way, Stunna can operate on ONLY a 1% margin and accept no confirm deposits as well, any actuary can tell you that will result in -ROI long term (they are the people who determine what insurance rates you pay and all based on premiums paid and % of negative cash flow outcomes occurring).

I personally over 1000+ rolls on the old PD had a luck of less then 75% all betting 49.5%. I created other accounts and almost everytime within the first 10 rolls a streak of at least 5 losses at over 50.5 would occur. To answer the: "You just lost a ton to Primedice so you're complaining, I will reply with this: I have lost 3x as much on Just-dice as primedice and can say 100% just-dice is legit and fair. No question. The streaks occur and hell I have had a streak of 16 on just-dice, coinroll.it too. Both are fair, but Primedice is not.

Think about this: Dooglus stated they are suspectiable to theories of being rigged since a new server seed is generated EVERY roll. All other dice sites have followed coinroll.it's and just-dice's example of not changing it. So then let me ask this: With this thread and other complaints of not being fair, WHY do you not change it to remaining the same seed every roll Stunna?.

The answer: Because it's rigged based on patterns of the bettor and Stunna knows no one can truly prove that it is unless seeing the software themselves. Changing the client seed everytime or their patterns, isn't what dicers want to do, so thus the huge 3% or greater profits continue. So thus it won't be changed, even though all these complaints could easily go away if it was.

That is my stance on this thread's topic.
998  Economy / Goods / Re: Silver Wallets physical storage of your Bitcoin in 1 troy oz of .999 silver! on: August 25, 2013, 04:07:44 PM
I would like one. Shipped to EU.

Out of interest why is the price A LOT higher than silver spot?

I understand manufacturing costs etc but is the 99 merely to enforce a "limited edition" run as opposed to any significance ?

They're pretty, though...

I would take #11 please.
Only $59 once the limited edition run ends, a savings of $40. Might get one, but it'll be when these numbered ones sell out.
999  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitBook.biz - Bitcoin sportsbook - Best odds - Very quick transactions on: August 24, 2013, 04:54:41 PM
do u guys have alot of sharks playin at bitbook,have u guys ever booted a player for winning to much(i do not fit in this catagory,im just curious) how would one boot somebody  , by ip address?   and is tor  allowed?  thanks for readin dude

BitBook does not block any users from placing bets.

We have many users that are well up on us, and we continue to accept bets from all of them.


I am up quite a bit and still have no problem wagering or cashing out, especially live betting (wish I knew my full record for my couple of accounts). A breakdown of average line wagered on, actual profit betting before games, and profit from live games would be helpful if you introduced a player stat page.

When I started live betting, I noticed you could bet repeatedly the max, when they limited it I thought they had limited my account to 2 BTC max win haha, checked under a diff account and not the case. Saw last night u raised the limits for live betting, appreciate it.

Also, that bitcoinsucker dude is killing you guys at those egames lol, crazy stuff.
1000  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] 0.80 BTC for $90 moneypak / BOA online wire on: August 24, 2013, 04:19:27 PM
Bump, updated amount + price.
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