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9881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you gamble your (or your child's) school fund? on: December 29, 2016, 06:23:11 AM
Well, I would say that I did this back in 2014. My mother already deposited all the money I need to pay for school for the year and also some allowance for my daily needs. I gambled around half of it on NBA odds. I lost that half. So I lived on really cheap food and really avoided buying anything. I even tried to avoid buying things I need like books just to save money. Was a gruesome year for me, luckily I got through. Wouldn't do that again.

How bout you guys, would you do it?

You know, a lot of college student have done that with varying degrees of success and failure.  It's not really a good idea to take this route at such an early stage in one's educational development because the skills to become a successful gambler have not been attained for most at this stage.  Get a degree in mathematics or engineering, then try your hand at gambling on a professional level.

This is not new you can hear lot of stories more then this interesting about how they started to play gambling and then lost everything after that they are realizing the mistake they have done it. That is why it is told that play with what if you lose should not affect your and your family life.
It's clearly a sign of being irresponsible person, everyone has its own story in their worst experience in gambling and I believe it's one of the worst mistake that a gambler has ever did, you cannot gamble the future of your kids, without the funds they cannot continue with their studies and it has been said many times that education is very important and that's the only thing that cannot be stolen from us.
9882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: December 29, 2016, 06:02:40 AM
It depends upon several conditions but i mostly don't look to make profit solely with gambling but if i become able to win big i try to withdraw what i have deposited and keep playing with the amount i have won so that i will not loss from my pocket by the end. But it will be hard for anyone to stop from depositing again and again after losing what you have won or deposited on start, that is called greed.  Grin

Playing with profit and saving the initial bankroll needs determination and self discipline.  If the person is lacking this traits, it will be hard for him to follow this kind of strategy.  Even if he said for himself that he will keep the initial bankroll once profit is seen, he will withdraw it but the urge to deposit and bet more is stronger.  It would be wise for him to just leave the premise or site to and divert his attention so that it won't come across to his mind that he needs to deposit again to gamble.
There's a big chance that it will happen if you are not setting a decent amount of bankroll, a gambler will only be discipline once he is willing to risk a bigger bankroll, in such way he will do his best to protect his bankroll and ensure that he would last in the game. It's best to do it in sports betting or other kind of skilled based games.
9883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What gambling method are you using for Dice? on: December 29, 2016, 05:27:51 AM
I used random bets, just listen to your instinct. When you lose on random bets you can't blame other people by recommending martingale to you. You do manual betting using random bets that's why you can't blame anyone except yourself. You need to just enjoy on dice games. That's what dice intended for, a leisure time for us hard working bitcoiners.
I don't have trust on any strategies in a dice game, and i will not listen to other strategies in dice because I know it will not work in this game. So I will choose numbers randomly if I have luck, I will win my bet otherwise it's my bad luck. I know in this game very tough to make a profit, and that is why I play dice game just for my time pass.
Being a gambler for a long time already, we can prove based on experience that no method will work in dice. I am pretty sure the newbies in gambling are making an experiment to win but overtime they will realize that they are just wasting time since no way they can find a thing that does not exist.
9884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 29, 2016, 05:24:07 AM
Despite Carmelo Anthony was ejected in the game, the Knicks are still keeping up and it looks like they can take this game away. I'm lucky today I was able to watch the game live and when Melo was ejected I took the under in the 2nd half. Profit is coming very soon if this game will not go into overtime.

It looks like the Atlanta hawks are winning this game against Knicks. There score now is 91-97 with 1 over time for this game and I envy for watching a live game, it is always been my dream to watch a NBA live game especially with my favorite teams. Because its hard to do so since I am offshore.

I should of bet on this game instead and maybe live betting on these nba games from now on.
Chicago is just a BULLSH1T team to bet on. They play like pure crap. I kid you not!
They can't shoot the ball worth a dam.

They may not be a choice of yours but bull is still on my list.
They are leading it by 2 with 20 secs left but I still hate them for playing like this. Angry

I stand corrected. They just shot themselves in the foot with Lopez vs his brother and dunked it on his dumb ass. Figures. Undecided

Surprised that Butler put that down.
Atleast I won 1-3 times that I bet on them this year. Never betting them again if I have the chance too.

See the game ended 101-99 in favor of Bulls even though I find Brooklyn Nets as not that very good team as they are having hard time for each of their wins but still they are able to make some good match for this game with Bulls. And just an update with Knicks vs Hawks, the game ended 102-98 in favor of Hawks.
Yeah, the game between the Knicks and the Hawks went to OT, those punters who bet for the over in the 2nd half sure made cash tonight.. lol. Raptors and Warriors are in 4q now and so far the Raptors have not lead the game yet but I'm hoping they'll cover anyway.
9885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: December 29, 2016, 05:07:04 AM
I'm not sure that the people who say that they are gambling for the benefit they get what they want. I thought it was just wishful thinking to themselves. Because the fact, more lose money than make money. That fact, and you should be able to accept it. Maybe there are a handful of lucky people who benefit from gambling. So lying or not, can be accepted or not, gambling is a game played just for fun.

Yup...gambling is just for fun. We should treat it as a way to try our luck in a very limited time only. Recently, I saw a lot people that already got lucky while gambling but they keep betting and forced they luck and finally as
the final result they got busted. 
You can tell that due to greediness they lose in the end, there's no way this kind of people will succeed in the long run. Making money in gambling is only possible in the long run unless you win the lottery, and to win in the long run, gambler must be discipline and will continue to execute the game plan properly.
what about the people who come to gamble with the desire get money and  not to have fun? there many of them who gamble and go home with anger
It's normal to feel upset when you are expecting a win but the other way around happens, but it's not good to keep that longer as that will only make you hate yourself and will result to chasing your bets in gambling even if you are not enjoying anymore.

The ability to accept loses will help you enjoy in gambling mate.
9886  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: December 29, 2016, 04:08:30 AM
Give or take we all spend money one way or another. Was is fiat or bitcoin we at the end spend it for something. Bigger issues is that sometimes you have bitcoin and you need cash fast takes days to serve all out, but this is something i hope it will be resolved in near future for all to pay/spend bitcoin/fiat not you with cash only. I just hope that i will live to see this happening.


Yea most hope for that to happen  that we dont need to exchange  btc to fiat and that we can do every day shopping  with btc.
And true we have to exchange  btc to spend it

I think maybe bitcoin will be more mainstream before we get a solution. And if more people prefer bitcoin to cash? then cash will die for sure.
There's no way cash will die soon, we have been using it for a longer time already and it's definitely part of our needs to survive. Bitcoin is a good option for online transaction only but in the end it is still the government who has the total control over us, we are oblige to follow the laws and regulation in our country and if they make strict policies in using bitcoin we have to follow or else we will not gonna like the consequences.
9887  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: December 29, 2016, 04:03:10 AM
revshares and gambling for sure  Wink
Yes it is the quick way to get bitcoin only a day, but have risk. I think the best way is trading, because with trading have analysis to get profit and the risk is lower than HYIP.
It is never a good way to make Bitcoin. You can lose all your money. If you have a large capital, mining will be the best source for you because it can generate more Bitcoin for you and so that you can have the unlimited number of Bitcoin.
But we must to know, the mining level of difficulty and no body can do it, I said that trading or gambling is the quick way and have risk. I think we must devide, where to fast way and long term. Mining also need large capital is good for long term.
Well, I do not want to risk my money on my luck. Gambling is only for lazy people and I find that I am not suitable to it. Mining is always a good option. Even if you have only 1 bitcoin, you can still join the mining world.
I think people wanted to have a easy way to earn money, and gambling is not a lazy way because in order to succeed you need to make a lot of effort by educating yourself and learning from your own experience. It's a long process and it's normal to fail but don't give when you still can.
9888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 29, 2016, 03:57:25 AM

Gambling is not going to help you with your life unless you win big and then stop. 

You have a point but it is not always the case.  If you look at the documentation on how gambling helps people in their daily life, you will be amazed that this game save people from insanity, boredome, social attention and a lot more.  Gambling does not only revolve in wagering and staking, there is also social aspects that develop around the environment of a gambling Casino. Aside from that recreational activity in Casino help to ease tension and stress.

I know there are people who are earning big amount in gambling including those professional gamblers who are joining leagues and tournaments that has a big prize for the winners. And with that way, they think that gambling is their only life and that is helping them to be financially stable but that only applies for them. And for us who are thinking that it can happen with our lives, I guess that is hard to believe that gambling will help us that way.
If you feel you have the skills that they have, you can always join them. It's a very risky journey making money in gambling and as you said only the professionals are doing it, what I know is that only few are successful while a bunch of us are losers. If one is willing to try despite of the reality then I can say he is a big risk taker and just hope for success.
9889  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: December 29, 2016, 03:32:47 AM
The easiest way to gain profits with our investment is through bitcoin investments because many people from different parts of the country are keep attracting to the bitcoin daily, so future of the bitcoin investment will give you good returns, may be many experts are keep suggesting that the bitcoin price will increase year after year. Let's hope for the best.
for long-term investment in bitcoin will be very profitable, saw the potential of bitcoin is very high, many people began to be interested and then they use bitcoin, this certainly will be sustainable and create bitcoin have a bright future
It's always possible with bitcoin, long term investment is good with bitcoin because the price will increase as the demand increase. It started great this year where the price grow substantially, so this must continue to happen.
It's nearing $1,000 now so you are right, this will continue to happen of course, as an investor we must be optimistic with the future of bitcoin and there's no limit with the price now by continue pushing. It's all because of us that's why bitcoin has gone this far. For investors, it's not the end of the opportunity yet, we can still buy now as bitcoins will surely grow more.
9890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you use Cashback or bonuses? on: December 28, 2016, 11:03:34 AM
Hi guys!
Nearly every online bitcoin casino offers many many bonuses such as free spins, deposit bonuses etc. Many casinos (for example Oshi) offer you a choice whether you want to use bonuses or get cashback from your losses. My question is which of those option do you prefer and benefit from? Why?
Let us all know Smiley
No, I never took any cash back or bonuses because you can made a withdrawal if it has finalized a rule. it will make you loses even though you on position won.
I have tried to gamble for a no sign up bonus but I have not tried a cashback promotion yet, only one site where I was successful with bonus and in the end after complying with the number of rollover I was able to withdraw the funds in the end. It was just an experiment actually to prove if a site is really paying and the promotion is legitimate.
9891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: December 28, 2016, 10:48:29 AM
You can't win against yourself if that addiction is still within yours, you must kill the root cause of the problem and blocking your internet connection is not the main solution to the problem, the urge to gamble is still inside of you and until you can kill that will you be free in gambling and you will not be doing it anymore.
With this context, I wouldn't use the word "kill". I think the root of your gambling addiction is in your mind, and killing your mind would mean that you kill yourself. Grin (I get your point, though)

I've read a couple of articles about quitting a habit. They all say that to kill a habit, you simply have to replace it with another one. If your gambling takes a lot of your time, you should look for a habit that would take a lot of your time as well. Some find cooking, teaching, studying, etc. as a way to substitute their gambling habits. You should find yours too. Determine it by determining your passions.
It's all worthless even if we read that kind of article but failed to execute in real life, gambling addiction is a serious problem that needs serious attention and once a person is addicted, he simply cannot solve the problem alone. It's always best to seek advice from the expert or better from your close friends or your family.
9892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: YOU REALIZE OR NOT ? on: December 28, 2016, 09:59:50 AM
Bitcoin is just very fit with gambling but that does not mean that it was created for gambling alone, we have seen people who were able to do online shopping with bitcoin and they are also satisfied with how it goes. Bitcoin is for all of us and any transactions online can be done with bitcoin as a form of payment.
9893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: December 28, 2016, 09:50:51 AM
Well, first of all I didn't ever see people addicted to reading, but gambling addicted I saw. I think and trading and gambling are pretty similar things, cause of they both are high risk investment things. But only gambling provokes that kind addiction we all know about.
I think this is because in trading a lot of analysis chart, everyone knows even though trading in complete lots of tools, but does not guarantee it could profit. I prefer gambling because it does not need to be dizzy with a confusing analysis and from experiences I can also can profit from gambling.
yeah a lazy guys would of course prefer to choose gambling rather than a complicated trading that required a lot of experiences and skills , no offense please  Wink . trading much more better as it's gives you a new thing , a new skills and you have not to worry to lost everything in one night , while in gambling you could lost everything in few seconds.

That's right. Just remember there's no lazy money which can came to you suddenly, means gambling is not for earn profit and sadly there are still people think gambling and trading is same thing and thinking it's an investment, oh come on such people need to learn more, read more before they do a post, don't look so dumb.
Some could earn from gambling but they are doing their best to be profitable, we do not earn by just hoping we are lucky every time we play. I do trading and gambling at the same time and I can really compare that gambling does not give me good result in terms of profit, so it's not a winnable passion like trading.
9894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 28, 2016, 05:58:46 AM
With real life gambling you can limit yourself from losses - with online gambling that is impossible to do because you can register another account always and come back again and again and again without thinking about your decisions.

In real life you can give the casino the right to kick you out if they see you, but online it's impossible.

Not true, in real casino you can gamble until you lose all money. In online casino you can create new account, and in real life you can always walk into another casino. You can't really say "kick me please i don't want to gamble"   Grin
Anyway, there are some games that real casinos don't have(at least here) like dice, plinko or huge number of slots, but in real casino experience is much better, from those nice ladies bringing you drink to those old dirty gamblers begging for few cents to play few rolls  Grin
Haha yes, real casino's doesn't even want to kick you even you say so. As long as you have money to gamble or should I say donate to them. They will encourage you to keep on gambling because they know that in the end all their gamblers are going to lose. It's up to you if you want to kick yourself and you can do it whether you gamble in real gambling or online gambling.
You are very much welcome especially if you are a high roller and the eyes are on you and that makes some gamblers uncomfortable gambling in real casino because they know your identity and any person who has a bad plan can do anything to rob you. It's pretty safe to gamble online as with bitcoins you can always hide your real identity.
9895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 28, 2016, 05:47:28 AM
I see there is so many people trying hard to stop gambling their money because they've losing so much
If you not ready to lose your money, then don't even try to gamble!

So how about people that already try it? Or even already addicted and being bancrupt because of gambling, do you any advice or sugestion??
There is always a solution for everything, your life does not end by the moment you get addicted with gambling. It is our will to change that would help us to get out the mess we make, in the first place, we are not force to gamble and we know how risky gambling is, so it is just right to ensure that we will be able to take care of our finances by minimizing our loses and enjoying gambling at the same time.


Exactly right, it might be hard but soon enough you can find yourself no longer involved on it. So better not start gambling to those who were not into it yet. Its hard when addiction attacks. There's lot to lose doing it money, time and efforts.
to me if if you a are a committed person then you should start gambling as you can follow our strategy about gambling easily, but if you are not a committed person then you should try to avoid gambling as you can lost a big about in gambling.

I don't think that even you are a committed gambler still strategies are going to be guide at first but in the end that will ruin your whole gambling style. Better to think about your own strategy, it is not that bad to follow others strategy but still don't always rely to other people's strategy, that's why when you have your own, you are confident to gamble and you don't have to blame others for your misfortune.
Following others will not give worth of your money, it's fine to lose at least you are making your effort to analyze the game for you. In fact, if you are hoping you will be successful in the long run in the future, you will not be able to do it without your own judgement. Successful gamblers fail many times before they reach their situation now.
9896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: December 28, 2016, 05:21:15 AM
The risk is really high if you are going to make gambling as a profitable activity and I was thinking about only one thing that you are able to make gambling as profitable thing without any investment involved.
You mean to say only if we are able to gamble without any investment then only we will get chances to be in profitable in gambling activities?

I agree with this point as I am a gambler, always looking for free giveaways and fauctes to make use of them for my gambling. Many times I may not have enough time to make them to grow till payout threshold. But, entertainment is completely guaranteed for free of cost.

That's one of the point because you are not even risking your own money and every time you are going to gamble those free money and giveaways that you'll get is going to be your major investment together with your time. But of course there are some gamblers that are totally making gambling as a real job since they afford to invest and to lose any amount.
Still you will not be able to make a decent amount of money even without risk, for me I consider it as waste of time especially doing faucet. For kids, maybe it's profitable to them but when you are expecting a bigger return, the only way to make it is to let your money make money as that is the nature of gambling, of course you all need to take the risk.
9897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 28, 2016, 05:11:49 AM
Gambling is so addicting because you can earn big money in an instant

But do not be blinded by big amounts of money there is no such thing as easy money.

Yup! there is not a chance in profiting so much in gambling because of a certain risk it have and you might have really be careful when you are already giving so much effort in playing this! in my advice just play a little amount of money to lessen your losses.
Indeed placing bets with low amounts is the best thing you can do because the fact is gambling is not safe at all, its just all depending on the luck you need to win money.
Placing bets itself is just not safe because of the amount of luck you need and with low amounts if you lose you would not lose a lot of money so that is a kind of safe.

Yes, whether you will gamble with small amounts still that is not safe and that is going to make you more addicted into it, why?

Because you can gamble for so many times and as long as you have money left, you are not going to stop believe me, it is happening.

And the fact that by betting small amount, big return is possible that is making a lot of gamblers believe that it is possible.
Addiction in gambling will take away the limit of your bets, you are just being a slave and you follow what your heart say which is not a good  way in gambling as it is a mind games and you have to strictly follow your analysis. Even with small amount of money, it can accumulate to a bigger amount and the moment you will be frustrated your bet my be bigger.
9898  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: December 28, 2016, 04:53:42 AM
People who says bitcoin is dead are only bitcoin haters. We are know that bitcoin transaction is faster and easier than paypal or bank transfer, but some of bitcoin haters said that bitcoin transaction is difficult and confusing for newbie/begginer that didn't know about bitcoin. I think they just lazy people that won't think or learn to keep moving forward. The fact is bitcoin will not die.

it is called spreading FUD and if you look at when they are saying those things you can understand why it is called FUD. as you can see nobody is talking about bitcoin being dead right now! because there is a strong rise going on. but a couple of days before it when price was low and stable we heard the illeterate circle CEO sing a new bitcoin is dead song now he is silent and hiding.
I feel the people behind this are only those who wanted to buy cheap bitcoins, when they spread FUD, weak hands will sell their bitcoins for a cheap price and that creates opportunity for the whales to buy more and that will add up to their holdings. When you are smart investor, you will not panic without making the right study.
9899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: December 27, 2016, 10:42:57 AM
While play gambling and lost, do you add more beting or stop play gambling? I always add more beting and deposit again, i can't control my self. Do you have suggesting for me?
Depends on my mode if i had full energy to play in the long run yes i always deposit on second time to play and trying to get back what i've lost on gambling website even i can't control my self by making big bets this is worst thing happen always on my self, If you can't control your self try to play with minimum amount to gambled until you practiced your self not to play big bets.
Actually you won't get angered until you have actually lost something which you never intended / wished to loose. And this way if you make practice bets with little amount then you will not get angered really. You learn how to control that temper with time and no book or post can teach you how to control your temper.

That's just normal almost all the gamblers that doesn't know how to gamble will get mad easily even just for losing a very small amount of money. But the best to control that temper is that you must need to know that gambling is not all about winning, so if you think that you are a loser in everything you must stay away from it.
I think it's pretty normal to a person if he loses his feelings will be affected, and that's why gambling is a very stressful job due to the up and down or mixed emotions you can feel along the way, you can control your feelings if you are strong and matured enough to understand fully about gambling but if not, we have to accept early that gambling is not for us.

No, gambling is not a stressful job it is not even a job. Those people who are making gambling as a job are just those people who are so called professional gamblers or working in the casino's or the owners of it. And you don't have to be strong and mature enough just to control your own emotion, what you only need is discipline.
Playing it for fun will take away the stress and of course that is not a job at all, but there are people who really think they can make money in gambling and they considered gambling as a job and although some has been successful but certainly it is not an easy journey for them to win.
9900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto trading or gambling on: December 27, 2016, 10:33:39 AM
Trading will require strategy and skill to play. Trading make us learn hard and read more articles or books about trading to fulfill our brain with technical analytics and fundamental analytics. If you good on that, you'll be rich.
Gambling? It's different I think. It's different way to get or loose money.
But the same of both will make you earn more money is you have to play with good mood.


if we are good in gambling then we can win some money but its need luck and skills and experience to be a pro gambling. but with trading, we need time to learn about trading, not just read the articles or books, but we have to do trial and error to find the best strategy to be a pro traders. and for me, i will select crypto trading beside of btc trading, because i think in crypto trading its easy to get a big of profit as long as we know what coins that will get jumped and we can make an order buy and sell it in the right time.
Crypto trading of course, gambling is a game of luck and the it does not guarantee you'll improve your skills overtime but in trading if you will just learn from your experience and constantly adjust your method when you find it not working anymore, you will certainly develop your skills and you can use that to be more profitable consistently.
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