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9881  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 20, 2016, 01:58:29 PM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas

steady income in bitcoin without activity doin anything
you can lending your bitcoin but still few activity
if you investment in cloud mining you can still activity, you must login to website request withdraw coinfirm withdraw to inbox email

if you want growth money you must still activity, maybe few activity doing but must still activity

It needs some work also to make it simple. It doesnt make you rich just by sitting and doing nothing. You need to work for it, be flexible and maintain a low risk in every transaction so losing will not be an option.
Best way to have an steady income is by working everyday 5 times a week then you are going to make sure that you have money in your pockets every month.
It would not be possible for me to have a steady income with bitcoin but maybe some people do.
People who are full time in bitcoins are earning a good amount from it but in no way it can be steady as their income will depend on the price of bitcoins, sometimes higher and lower sometimes.
yeah it's a bit unstable if you would rely on bitcoin for steady income although it's possible through signature campaigns but I don't think it would be enough to support a family the way a regular job would.
9882  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin replaces the money? Could happen? on: October 20, 2016, 12:36:19 PM
iam only say never
bitcoin never take over in position fiat money
bitcoin only digital curency and use to online, and money is real curency can use real life


Well we wouldn't know for sure in the future. Even now more and more transactions are being done online and who knows, perhaps it may be able to do so but i think thats noy gonna happen in a decade or two. People are still that much relying in fiat so it's going to be impossible in the next 10 or 15 years. But it may seriously challenge the fiat but i don't we' d be alive to see it
9883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: October 20, 2016, 12:24:53 PM
There are people who gamble to become rich and there are some people who gamble to get entertained. The problem comes when both the types of people get addicted and can't make up their mind to quit gambling. It becomes a part of their life that they can't live without. I don't know what to suggest to them. They should try harder to quit and have a disciplined approach to gambling.
Yeah but i think they don't really have to quit entirely. Just regulate and lessen the time they allot to gambling. The problem with addiction is that people lose time for more important things so for me, it has to be instilled when a person is just starting to gamble to avoid addiction in the long run
9884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: October 20, 2016, 12:19:49 PM
I think yes, gambling can be profitable for long term. The problem is many people can't do this if they can't control himself on gambling and greedy. To get profit in long term, you need to keep on track by do research on every match that you want to bet.

Well i don' t think that would be applicable in most gambling games though. Like for example dice, how do you research the rolls there? It mainly depends on you being lucky if you're going to win. So there may be profit in a few gambling games but generally i don't believe gambling is there to be profitable for the player
9885  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: October 20, 2016, 12:14:30 PM
If you are getting the benefits on the existence of bitcoin then there are no reason for you not to believe, bitcoin is a saver for us because with bitcoin we have the opportunity to grow our money very fast because the future of bitcoin is going to fantastic.

Indeed. It's been a very good year because of bitcoin and i agree with you, and i think that's why we're all here because we benefit from bitcoin some way or another and i think us believing in bitcoin would be truly worth it
9886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 20, 2016, 12:10:23 PM
Not yet, but i want to get rich from gambling and i'm optimist to be like that, rich from gambling. For now, i only gambling regularly. When i have big bankroll, i will gambling with big amount and get rich.
That's a very dangerous venture you're planning there bro as the chance of losing big is also possible when you di that. What kind of gambling game are you playing though?
9887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what fun in GAMBLING? on: October 20, 2016, 12:02:37 PM
Just the intro. You will even get excited before playing it then afterwards it will be the sad partbor the boring part. The games like dice wont satisfy you. You could lose in just a manner of time or maybe win.
But even in dice gambling, attempting to unachievable is the fun. We all know profit from gambling is completely impossible, still we are trying to pull back it. The uncertainty of gambling is most exciting fun to all the gamblers. I believe if we are consistently able to make profits from gambling, then gambling will not be that much fun filled.
Yeah i agree with your point that uncertainty definitely makes gambling a lot more interesting and exciting. It's that feeling of anticipation that starts when you dexide ti make a bet. Though some games like dice can be quite boring in the long run
9888  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: October 20, 2016, 11:59:28 AM
I just put in what I need at the moment to grow my coins, but I also cash out once I made more.
But the price is too high last months for me to take any big risks and speculate on short term.
Did you put all your money into bitcoin? Don't put all save alteast when you need physical money in emegencies you have some. And that's good when you cash out once when you made profit from your earnings well big risk doesn't mean you can really earn from that things sometimes it just about lucks.  Grin
Put all your money in bitcoin if you want your life to be ruin in the future, bitcoin is an investment and every investment has a chance to succeed or failed and think about this one, what if the outcome is a failure, then you will have a big problem, right?
Exactly, its never wise to put all your money in any single investment either bitcoin or any other, as its a big risk of loosing everything at once if your investment fails in future.
And i don't anyone would actually put all their money in bitcoin. You still need actual money for your daily expenses and bitcoin is not accepted as a regular currency in a lot of countries yet.
9889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 19, 2016, 04:40:55 PM
Gambling is not a sickness if you ask me plus it also depends on how you look at that, its of course not just something that is making you addicted. I think its just the person and its not gambling that is the problem, even in fact gambling can make your life easier and better.
Gambling is really a sickness activity it always make people addictive into this games , And it always depends on there lose to chase with it . If  you are going to look i just remember 1 thing that if you are going to play with gambling don't push to hard it will lose everything at the end and you will be addicted to it.
well gambling is addicting but being addicted to gambling depends on the person playing. if they can control themselves, then gambling would be a fun and exciting activity which at times may give you a chance to earn. once it takes too much of your time and resources, that's when it becomes an addiction and gambling addiction is should be the one to be considered as a sickness
9890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 19, 2016, 04:35:19 PM
It's because gambling is like drugs, you always want more on gambling even you are win or lose. The feel when you have a bet and the sweat and your heartbeat makes gambling become fun.
Really? gambling is not like drugs but you are having fun playing gambling , gambling is hobby and like sports that your mind really think and then follow your instinct but im not sure that you are going to win straight evendo your going to hard playing. but gambling for me is really but and really addicted.
in some manner you are correct its just like a game that you focus your mind and dedicate your self the only problem with this addiction is you are using money and losing it especially big amount is not funny and trying to regain it back would turn really to addiction.
yeah i agree with you that gambling is a little on the hobby side than like drugs. it's like a vice, that when you start to appreciate it, it would be very hard to stop. kind of like when you can't stop smoking cigarettes. with gambling, the sensation that you get when you win, without you having a hand in the outcome, kind of add excitement to it.
9891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: October 19, 2016, 04:28:17 PM
Another tip: What you lost is lost. Don't ever try to recover the money. Because you'll end up losing more every time. EVERY TIME!

Good tip but hard to follow! Its easier to say when we were at normal condition. But when we faced lose while gambling we will to forget it! We tend to chase our lose as soon as possible and we regret at the end!
That is tilt and is an incredible difficult emotion to overcome what I do when I’m in that state is to leave the casino immediately since you are bound to take some really bad decisions under that state.
yeah the normal reaction if we lose quite a pretty amount is we try to play more in aim of winning what we lost back. it's really very difficult when you're already in that situation compared to when we're just discussing it here. you'll play until you don't have anything to wager anymore. i think newbie gamblers are more prone to this than experienced ones
9892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: October 19, 2016, 04:24:30 PM
It includes both. Gambling is nothing but loss and win. But here the edge house profit is a lot. Some people made a huge profit from this. But it was the there lucky day so they made otherwise it is not possible. According to me gambling is not lose and not profit, it is a just entertainment so for this we are paying money that's it.
If we are an intelligent gamblers who does not want to give our money in gambling sites we should stay away in games where there is a house edge, we can select other games likes sports betting and poker.
I have gambled a couple of times and I can say you that you are going to lose more times then that you are going to win because that has happened to me.
To much luck is required to win these games it is not fair anymore.

even you play on a game that did not have a house edge you will still lost in the long run.
unless you have an extreme luck which it is rare happened.
basically gambling always about a winning at first and losses in the end.
not necessarily dude. sports betting is a pretty good type of gambling that gives you a fair chance of winning. well more than a fair chance if you know a lot about the sports that you're betting on. there's no house edge, it's just how you analyze how the game would be played and how familiar you are with how the players play
9893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: October 19, 2016, 04:21:09 PM
Im not greedy that much i always play smart where i place bet low when im not sure in my play but if im sure in my play i always bet high and i always get to win and after i win i never hold my bitcoin on gambling website because how if the owner remove my bitcoin there because i don't have a control on the website.
lol how could you know your bet would win when you set your bet higher? how if your high amount bet lost then even you are very confident? nothing sure in gambling , everything are undecided and noone know about the outcome. greedy or not , your luck determine your winning or lost. just the fact most of the times people just get lost.
Im not actually counting it i don't care if how much ilose or how much i win in a day yes sometimes im blaming my self for not playing safe but most of all im not greedy and then i can really predict what's is going on the next round i don't believe in luck because luck is for those who can't really believe there self that they can really make it.
Believing in yourself is the most important as luck cannot be considered in determining your chances in gambling, relying purely in luck is a lazy way of gambling and you are only entitled for a temporary win and you have no future in gambling if you pursue for the money like other professionals are doing.
you think gambling itself is not a lazy activity? a hobby for lazy people?
you cannot expect you can build a career in gambling.
it will just be a bad call , greedy always inside your mind everytime you think you aren'r greedy actualy you are.

yeah i kinda find that a bit confusing as well when you said luck cannot be considered in determining your chances in gambling. dude gambling is a game of chance itself. luck most of the time plays a bigger role that you being skilled or experienced when it comes to gambling. even professional gamblers would disagree with you in this
9894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In what gambling games are you good at? on: October 19, 2016, 04:14:31 PM
When it comes to talk gambling I am very good in sports betting,poker and roulette. I play in combination all these games in pairs like roulette and sports betting or roulette and poker by my ways. I get support by roulette to increase my bankroll and it works fine for me. All these are working good and profitable for me in limited gambling.

yeah these sports are actually those gambling type games that doesn't rely entirely on luck. i can say i'm pretty experienced with poker as well. it's very entertaining especially if you play with actual players instead of online. the excitement and the fun is different when you do it with real people. also sports betting. i' ve won quite a lot already with basketball and boxing betting since those are the sports that i' m interested at and i have quite a lot of knowledge about
9895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 19, 2016, 03:13:06 PM
Girls also gamble, why would they not gamble I think that its pretty logical that they are doing it and that its also a good thing that they are doing this because its nice and also very enjoyable for a long time again and again.
Ya there is no reason that why girls cannot gamble.As it gives enjoyment to a boy similarily it can give girls the same enjoyment.But i agree that the number may be less than the boys because girls have some other ways of fun as well,but that doesnt stop them from gambling.

We are in the era of equality and equity is already a normal thing so if we men are able to gamble then also women has the reason to gamble. Because if in the ancient days, women are just for the household chores in our modern days women are also working. And because of that they are now able to do the same with us, men.
Women are still women and they cannot be equal to us as we are better than them and it was design by God that way, if they will gamble they might be successful but men are more successful as we are smarter than women when it comes to gambling, therefore it is only good for them if they will just bet for fun.

Not criticizing  on all women but  men are  superior  on any ways  and  on anything but  still they could somehow  level our  capabilities on some things.  Girls could also  gamble  because  they have the  will to do it and  playing gambling  isnt  hard at all.

i'm not really sure i understood what you mean by what you've said that main are superior in any ways. physically perhaps because of the difference in men and women's anatomy but to say that mean are superior that women, well i don't think you mean what you're saying there seriously. aside from physical aspects, men and women are pretty much equal, which goes the same for gambling. men are just more exposed to this kind of activity than women are
9896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 19, 2016, 12:53:48 PM
Hello guys I am addicted to gambling.How can I quit this?
Bro If You are Addicted to Gambling then Do Gambling With Small amount And Slowly Stop Gambling....
I Know its Difficult to Left a Such thing But Not Impossible If you Try to Leave I Am Sure You Will Left Gambling......

yeah it's not going to be easy especially if you're already in that stage of addiction but it has to start somewhere and if you really want to stop, then doing it slowly would be the best start to do it. it would lessen your body's craving for gambling until the time comes you're not much looking for it anymore. it won't be that hard anymore once you're in that stage
9897  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: October 19, 2016, 12:43:41 PM
Bitcoin is not as popular as the US Dollar. US Dollar has been there for a long time so people have talked about it ever since. Before most of us were born, people already know about US Dollar and it has more value than most currencies.

Bitcoin, on the other hand, is relatively new. As we approach a more and more digital world, Bitcoin is also arising. People are starting to talk about Bitcoin but I don't think it will come to the point that Bitcoin is more popular than US Dollars any time soon. But it will, eventually.

There are a few important aspects to keep in mind.

1- Bitcoin is still relatively new - This shows how much potential growth we can realize.
2- Bitcoin offers people financial freedom - This is something a lot people are looking for in times where trust in banks is very low.
3- Bitcoin is the best online currency - Sending billions of dollars worth of coins instantly for $0.05 in fees, is of course impressive.

I am quite sure that these features will make the average joe more than interested in Bitcoin in the coming years.
That's true, as long as we will do our duty to help bitcoin be popular in the world by promoting bitcoin in online and if possible with our friends and family bitcoin will progress more and more and more people will understand it and basically will adopt bitcoin.

yeah thats right, and with all the benefits bitcoin provides, it may even be at par with the dollar in the coming years. and i agree that we also have to do our part in promoting bitcoin, as we also will be benefiting when the time comes that bitcoin will rise. hopefully that's soon
9898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: October 19, 2016, 12:29:31 PM
Is it really true that if someone want to earn big from gambling he need to make a higher bets? Yes he can also loose but if he is lucky enough he can earn big amounts too. People can not make profits with lower bet amounts like .05 etc. you need a higher amounts bets.
That is somewhat true because if you make higher bets then the profit that you are going to make if you win is also going to be more.
With gambling you should not play many rounds because then you are going to lose most of the time.


yeah that's the thing there, for you to win big you have to risk big as well as higher bets would mean higher losses. and considering we're talking about gambling, you have to be very brave to stake a high amount since the chances of losing is quite more likely than the chances of winning
9899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 8 out of 10 chance of winning in gambling... on: October 19, 2016, 12:05:06 PM
I do not know what game you are playing because I have never experienced a game or casino where the advantage is in your favor and you have a bigger chance of winning.
I would like to know what game or casino that can be done at because I almost do not believe it.

8 out of 10 in a casino would be hard to believe. you can't and the house won't allow you to. well most games played in casinos are card based and some slots, those kind of games rely mostly in luck so getting that odd of 8/10  would be almost impossible. you can actually have that realized though through sports betting. games like boxing or basketball have a pretty high chance of winning especially if you know a lot about the games you're betting on.
9900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 19, 2016, 11:52:15 AM
I have noticed so many players are just gambling for the sake of profits only. But majority of them loses most of the games eventually as they are not smart players.

So how should we gamble in a smart way so that we do not get more frustrations due to continuous losses?
There is no way on gambling in a smart way because that is just not how it goes with gambling if there was a tactic that would allow you to win then everybody would use it.
The rules are simple and the chance of winning is small that is how it goes with gambling.
it doesn't necessarily mean that to gamble in a smart way would avoid you losing money. of course in gambling since it's a game of chance, you will definitely lose. gambling smartly is to know how to minimize losses by regulating the amount you're betting, or having the self control of stopping after a certain time. it's just about being responsible with the money you're using to play so you won't lose an amount that would hurt you
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