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9881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 18, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Yes, there is. It's called arbitrage betting.

Essentially you are simply taking advantage of different competitive prices that different bookies may offer at the same time. You bet x% of your balance on one outcome and x% of your balance on another - if you win either of these outcomes then you are guaranteed to win a fixed percentage of profit. It's basically +EV gambling. But right now these odds are quite hard to find.
it works only on sportsbetting isn't it?
you will have no chance to lose with this arbitrage betting , as you bet on both sides ,
more than just a safe method actually , you just need to have a wide network ,
you need more than 1 sportsbetting account, it is not big deal i can say yes this is the safe methodin sportsbetting.
I will not bet on the same player at sports betting. It will not ensure my profit, because we know that the aim of all of the gamblers either win sone profits, or play for fun and spend their time. Maybe you just play for fun, i respect that, but there are many gamblers that really play for profit. And i dont see a way of profit from what youve said.

Many gamblers do play for fun but people should be careful not to waste time on thinking that they can also make a living out of gambling. It should be done for fun purpose. As far as a safe method is concerned, the word safe never comes in gambling simply because gambling = taking risk.

If you are not willing to take risk you can never make profit from gambling and hence there is no safe method to gambling.
9882  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: December 17, 2016, 07:55:20 PM
The best way is to dare to borrow capital to the bank, and then use for real business or trading, but we have to be responsible to pay for it, certainly paid off when we can offer to borrow more.
Borrowing is not a good one thinking of the consequence cos you'll provide a collateral and if the business you invest the money into don't yield a good result? I don't see borrowing money and invest the money as a means of making a steady income mate.

This is not the best way for a stable income though. You need to be sure of the trading/investment that can return back that profit needed to incur the loan and the collateral along with proper profits. It seems more of a desperate attempt at making some money with a loan. You can get sued and tried if you cant pay it back in time and if the investment ends up being a fraud one to scam you.

Its better to invest in sectors which have been long standing and worth investing in, the type of investment referred to as HYIPs and ponzis which are obvious scammers - be careful of those.
9883  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: December 17, 2016, 04:05:43 PM
Continuously losing my all faucet amount on stupid lottery system. Improve the draw system put something provably fair and give the link to verify the winners.

The admin (wetsuit) is always ready to provide incentives to people who want to help him with the site. You can try building your own provably fair system and ask wetsuit to implement it on the site for an incentive - instead of complaining of losing faucet money on lottery.

Moreover the users who are winning are asked to post about the wins (Just like I did with my 200$ win on this forum), however most of them are not willing to tell or are not English speaking and hence shy away and never bother to post here.
9884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 17, 2016, 04:00:56 PM
if you're gonna win using gambling and if you can double your bankroll easily with out having any trouble. well thats a great help into your life. when im gambling when i already doubled my bankroll im withdrawing it fast because thats already my income through gambling. In gambling also i can fill my needs on my everyday life thats why playing gambling is so addictive.

Only luck can help you there since its simply your luck that made you win the games. Its not true for everyone though, I have seen people become beggars from gambling their money over and over again, but they never learn their lesson.

Learning the lesson that gambling is not easy and depends on your luck seems to be tough among the general mass of people - everyone thinks its easy to earn - a complete misconception very prevalent in this forum that makes newbies and kids addicted to gambling sites.
9885  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: December 17, 2016, 03:57:22 PM
Bitcoin probably has a much higher level of internationality than most fiat currencies in the market, one of the reasons is that Bitcoin can be converted into any local currency, and the process is much less bureaucratic. Everything becomes even simpler with the use of debit cards. The BTC debit cards business expands every day, and it is likely to make life easier for many people.

It is good to hear this, however such easy convertibility and debit card systems are not available in my country where a very small portion of the population use bitcoin. I would like the easy convertibility since most merchants dont accept it here, other than some international stores online.

Bitcoin is an international currency but it needs more acceptance and merchants who are willing to accept it.
9886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: December 17, 2016, 03:54:26 PM
Pure luck come to us when we least expect it.

No one in this world can ever predict that. Things that have a probability of happening can happen any time without any prior stimulus and occurs without anyone knowing from beforehand.

If there would have been someone who actually tell when luck comes to us, that person would never expose their talent and would only benefit themselves from it.
9887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: December 16, 2016, 03:23:59 PM
It is not possible to not lose while gambling. It is good that you don't give up but that should not be the case when gambling otherwise you will go bankrupt. My advice stop gambling because what you seek is not possible.

Everyone knows this but still they run after their greed for easy money. People know that they can never really beat casinos but who takes the advice?
It is impossible to not lose even a single gamble. Important thing is to cash out early otherwise you will lose it all. Self control of emotions is very important.
9888  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: December 16, 2016, 03:12:49 PM
The best source is simple and easy - BUY bitcoins

Rather than shitposting in the forum to earn via signature campaigns, one should buy some bitcoin as a long term investment since they can sell it or trade on it to earn more.

Other than that offering services in bitcoin is a good method - where you are actually working to earn the money.
9889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: December 16, 2016, 03:10:30 PM
just play online games and avoid looking to some sites when you know that the online game you are playing is hosting some kind of betting. You can limit you bankroll so you can avoid spending too much while still gambling and make it disappear little by little.

That won't work, playing any amount runs the risk of winning and playing more and more. Just turn your internet off, read, meditate, have sex and fill your lives with other hobbies to take your mind off.

Easier said than done. That's not how it works when someone wants to overcome an addiction. Addicted people just can't live without the subject of their addiction so it's better to give it to them but in tiny portions. Playing from the faucets only and never depositing your money on a gambling site would be my suggestion to quit gambling.

It tough for the addicted gamblers to get rid of their bad habits. They end up becoming beggars and then simply like to burn the faucets and tips from other players. However I consider it as a waste of time, when you can work on your own business to earn rather than let luck earn it all. Even playing with the faucet, some people may just become lucky to win a big amount but one needs to control their emotions and not gamble too much, because then they are bound to lose it all.
9890  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: December 16, 2016, 03:06:59 PM
In 2009 I did not believe bitcoin, so I missed the opportunity to become rich, and now I choose to believe bitcoin, I value it, not the immediate, but the future value.

I have to agree to the hard truth here. I never even thought that bitcoin prices would skyrocket like this and hence never used it until a few months now. Those people who believed in bitcoin and that the project would become popular, bought bitcoin at very low prices. When they sell their coins in 2016 now, they are going to big profit-makers.
9891  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: December 14, 2016, 03:25:19 PM
For investers and normal users of bitcoin the price of bitcoin does matter. Like I want the price to increase a lot so I can have much more profit. A daily user might also want the price to increase. On case of developers I think they would want adoption more than increase in price.

Bitcoin prices matter for every user of bitcoin.

However a large chunk of that user-base in composed of traders and investors. They are important aspect of the entire bitcoin ecosystem in order to drive the bitcoin economy. Traders want prices to fluctuate so they can buy/sell and make profits. Merchants want stable prices while developers want the prices to keep increasing - since this denotes greater acceptance and increased popularity.
9892  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: December 14, 2016, 03:15:31 PM
It would be useless to post ref links here imo

First of all referral links are not allowed to be posted here in the forum. They have a strict policy against referral spammers and you can get banned. There are other ways of spreading your referral links and getting referrals.

i love lottery on here eventhough i dont have much luck on it  Cheesy

Of course everyone loves the lottery, and to win it of course. I have myself won the 200$ faucet roll but have never won the lottery yet. But I am sure many of the users who won the lottery never actually posted here.
9893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: December 14, 2016, 03:12:21 PM
There is no risk free way to win and in the end you will always lose so quit that dream of winning from gambling.

However most of the people here are addicted gamblers and are not willing to give up. Many people do try to help them get over their addictions and make them get into a proper place and stay away from gambling using the same statements that you said above. Very few have been successful and the simple greed of people is what kills them.

Dont be greedy is the bottom line. If everyone won from gambling, there would be no casinos worth running - right?

Most people are willing but it's hard for them to do it. Even I went through this, but the good thing was that I wasn't using real money but faucets to gamble. This saved me a lot of money and even made me some profit. It's very hard to get rid of any addiction, but some of them might have less or more consequences. Gambling is one of the worst addictions. You can become homeless in a click.
In the start I also used to gamble with the bonuses and with faucets and when I came to know that now I can win and now there is not much lose to me in gambling then I started to play on some games with my own money but till now I only spend some small amount.

If you are using the faucets and bonuses to gamble, you can do it any way you want since the money is not yours and you might as well waste it since you cant withdraw those small amounts. Its a good method to have fun with that faucet balance but you are simply wasting your time in reality.

And gambling with the faucets does not mean you are free from losing everything in a single click. It is having the same risk.
9894  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: December 14, 2016, 03:07:27 PM
What about trading with altcoins? I think doing well on altcoin market its much more profitable

The Altcoin market is of course profitable - but it is not for the panicky people. You need to know which coin to trust and which one not to. Many fraud ICOs are happening everyday which are just pump and dump schemes. People tend to get trapped in them and end up losing their money.

In general the altcoin market is more risky and with high risk comes high profits as well if the prices do increase a lot.
9895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: December 13, 2016, 03:47:06 PM
I can control myself when it comes to gambling. I have a limit , if i lose too much money then I stop I know it's not my day and try again another day.

This is very good in gambling to have a limit. If you can have a limit and make sure you are controlling your emotions from betting more and gambling for longer periods, you can be sure to save yourself from huge losses - but that is never guaranteed, since the house edge can kill you at any point of time.

In general self control of emotions is an important aspect of responsible gambling, and only those who have this capacity can keep their gambling losses at bay.
9896  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: December 13, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
I only can say trading. Because I think trading is the most sensibly way to make money with bitcoin.
I won't say the others way is not good, but it depends on my experience.

Trading is by far the best method to earn bitcoin and make a proper profit. Investments that you have a control on (not ponzi and hyip scams) are worth it, like gold and real estate in your real life. You can then try to use your earnings and buy bitcoin, since I feel buying bitcoin is a good investment as well.

However it depends on personal choice and also the amount of free time the person has and how much hypertensive (panic kills people) they are.
9897  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: December 13, 2016, 03:36:16 PM
Bonus in the form of big profits will receive only those who did not panic and sell their stocks Bitcoins at the slightest fluctuation in prices

Obviously, someone selling all their coins at once just by seeing a small growth in price would surely miss the profits he might get in coming time when the price can go higher, so someone should always sell just a portion of it and keep the other parts for future.

I do believe in this strategy. If you sell all your coins you will go dry with nothing to trade on, while prices may still increase. Its better to hold the coins with a target. Once the target is reached, start selling the coins, bit by bit not all at once.

If prices rise even more keep selling more but not all.

If prices fall then consider buying some and stop trading for the day.
9898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 13, 2016, 03:32:16 PM
I believe investing is better than gambling. Gambling only depends on your luck and you can never really beat the house and become a millionaire, even if the advertisements make it seem so. On the other hand an investment done in the proper place can yield you profits for long and once you gain a good capital you can begin to reinvest the money and grow you savings again.

But that's a lot of work and most people would still choose gambling over this because gambling gives you instant results and doesn't need effort at all.

This is a very common though among many people in this forum. Getting rich is not easy and it does not happen if you are sitting idle and day-dreaming. It needs hard work and dedication with a lot of steel-strong nerves. If you choose gambling, it can make you instant millionaire and an instant beggar.

In general I prefer to use my brains and skills to earn my money - not to depend on some casino to bring me money. That said investments should be done carefully with proper management just to be safe.
9899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: December 13, 2016, 03:27:28 PM
Gambling is for fun. Higher bets can get you higher wins but can also make you go bankrupt. You cannot become rich with gambling, if you want to become rich work hard and focus on your career.

Of course working on your career, studying and working hard does pay off. People these days want easy money and focus on get-rich-quick methods and end up gambling their money. I never gamble as I consider my money as something is adore and wish to use it do something good and not throw it away. Many rich people even have excess money and like to gamble since its simply surplus money, while poor people like me like to earn as much possible by clean methods and use it slowly in order to lead a happy and peaceful life.

It seems that most people here are addicted gamblers and will most probably disagree with me but it is just my opinion.
9900  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: freebitco.in - is it even worth it? on: December 13, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
Never thought faucets are worth it.
Its just waste of time,you click on ads for few cents.Also,this doesn't really looks to be worth.

Of course faucets are never worth your time. No one should waste their time claiming from faucets all day when they can earn loads from other sources everyday. Just think of the time you are wasting and the amount of electricity and internet bills that you have to pay in order to keep on claiming all day long.

However it is worth it if you can get a lot of referrals on faucets - you can check your earnings every month and withdraw them easily.
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