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9921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Combination of gambling and trading on: July 30, 2021, 04:12:55 AM
In trading you can use buy or sell orders or stop loss, in these ways at least you can leave it and check it at any time and it doesn't have to be monitored continuously. In contrast to gambling, which at least has to be done manually, of course it will take more time. But yes, it all depends on what gamble you are playing, because if it is a sports bet then you can leave it after making the bet and go back to your trading.
9922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Exposed to children on: July 30, 2021, 02:46:44 AM
Even so, not all children will think the same because when they try several times but the result is a loss, then I still believe they will leave gambling. But indeed, when they get a win after a few tries then it is very likely they will continue to chase big wins. When children get something new, their parents must find out and not take an indifferent attitude, because children are still under the supervision of their parents, their children's activities should be of more concern to their parents as well.
9923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should online gambling companies be responsible for harm related activities? on: July 29, 2021, 04:27:12 PM
I think it all comes back to the players, because what must be guided further is that they are the players or gamblers themselves and not about accountability to the gambling company. Gambling companies simply provide a notification or a reminder when the gambler has lost a few dollars, but instead of a reminder of a loss, is there also a reminder of a big win? So that I think has to be an equality or balance as well and therefore, it all comes back to the gambler or the player himself about the awareness of the time to stop.
9924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling or playing? on: July 29, 2021, 02:34:38 PM

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Of course, there will be an effect, children know that gaming is for fun and they are developing their skills on judging a situation, but if you put gambling alongside gaming, children will be confused because they are presented with a luck-based game and this will be their introduction to gambling, which is not good for a very young age.

The reality is, not every game you can gamble or you look to gamble on it, anyone who plays a game and gamble at the same time is called a gambler, and kids should just play the game, enjoy it, consider it a fun activity and don't gamble from it. There's a reason why casinos only allowed 18 up customers to be able to enter, that is because they want to ensure that you are already matured enough once you enter a casino.
But with the games that children play, if they apply the game to gambling, then any game they play still has a chance to be used as gambling too. Gambling will come at any time in children and it can be realized or not, because the simple things in games even though they do not involve real money but allow there to be bets made in them. Therefore, gradually they will begin to realize about gambling as well and things like this have often happened in the environment where they play.
9925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 29, 2021, 12:55:38 PM
At the beginning of next week Simone Inzaghi will finally welcome back all the national players who are still enjoying their last few days of holiday. The first week of August will be important for the Nerazzurri because another great return is expected in Milan: that of Christian Eriksen.
He will undergo several medical checks and if his mental and physical conditions will be deemed good the doctors could decide to remove his internal defibrillator which would mean he could legally be entitled to play again in Serie A!
I don't think it will be that easy, even if it succeeds in removing the defibrillator but still, Inter will still fight even harder to convince Eriksen that Eriksen can actually return to play safely. Imo, Eriksen still needs time to return to play or sad news may come about his career, because Eriksen's arrival back to Inter is not for training sessions but to talk about whether his career will continue or not. Well, I personally still hope that Eriksen can recover and be 100% healthy again, but if I consider from some of his progress so far it seems that Eriksen's permission to be able to return to play may be very difficult.
9926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a gambler? on: July 29, 2021, 09:45:35 AM
The question immediately arose - how to make a gambler not remember the game for at least some long time?  It seems to me that this brings such a player into a state like an alcoholic, who only thinks where to get alcohol.  And such a struggle is inside your head, it can be won by some people, with a stronger will, but with some people it certainly cannot be won.  And then this dependence can be classified as a disease.  Perhaps after a while, scientists will learn to insert electrodes into the brain, so as to suppress this particular anomaly, and the person as a whole will be completely normal and adequate.  Let's hope that such research is underway and will yield results.
I think that's what rehabilitation usually does, which of course they or addicts will always be monitored and directed to more positive things or activities that will create new patterns in their brains. If the addict is still in rehab, it seems certain that they will recover, although sometimes some of them will return to the pit of addiction. But because of that, I don't need to expect something bigger like scientists to find new ways to help them, because by instilling a strong determination in them to get out of addiction, I think that's enough because all choices will return to the individual whether to quit or not.
9927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: YOUR FAVORITE GAMBLING? on: July 29, 2021, 07:30:35 AM
I never had much luck with Crash games, rocket launches, or in this case Blast. I am cautious by nature so I never place to high of a multiplier. When there is an opportunity to bring home x5, x10, or more, I mess it up by getting out to early. I also consider various tactics. For example, if the last two rounds were low and finished at 1.50 or below, I naturally expect a much better performance in the next round. I can't say such a system paid off for me.
Personally, I highly recommend your strategy, it looks pretty safe and can make you some money if you maintain it. It is possible. But betting with low coefficients will also lower your winnings, right? So if you're a bit unlucky, a loss can cost you 2x your winning bet, I think that's the flip side of it  Roll Eyes
Well, this strategy may work in several rounds, which in the end we must always pay attention to the movement so that it can change the odds in each round. I once tried with capital that was ready to lose by placing bets only at x1.5 with automatic bets. So that every round I just put the same odds without being able to change them, in the first many rounds I kept winning even though sometimes I lost but it didn't matter. But in the end I lost everything and it turns out, the movement doesn't always bounce, meaning when the spin only reaches x2 which should be able to bounce higher the next round, but what happens in the next round keeps getting lower without even bouncing at a higher chance, until finally I lose everything.
9928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: July 29, 2021, 05:59:44 AM
This is a very quality signing for Chelsea that needs a backup goalkeeper,and bettinelli is a quality signing that can even compete with their first choice keeper.While at Fulham he was very good,so this is a bargain buy for Chelsea.
Bettinelli does not have too good record. You can read his career description in the announcement from Chelsea. Bettinelli signs for Chelsea.

He is not a main goal keeper of Fullham in the last season and that club is among the worst clubs in defense, with most conceded goals. 7th from the ranking table Goals concededed 2020 - 2021.
Don't understand why Chelsea signed Marcus Bettinelli, whereas in my view Edouard Mendy is Chelsea's best goalkeeper at the moment. If Bettinelli is for a third tier goalkeeper, then I think Chelsea is enough to use and maximize goalkeepers from their own academy like Lucas Bergstrom and I think that will suffice. Indeed, getting Bettinelli on a free agent but still, I think it's an exaggeration which I don't think Chelsea need.
9929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It takes years to build a reputation and seconds to break it on: July 28, 2021, 12:51:05 PM

A well trusted casino turning out to be a scam in the end is like 1 out of 1,000,000 chances.


It is really a slim chance to happen except when they are closing up and announcement would have been made to customers because they have built friendship and among empire of people and they might reopen in the future. Reputation is like the check you have to withdraw money from the bank, a bounce check is definitely a bad money just like a bad reputation does not yield good proceed.
If they shut down the service by providing information first, then even if they close it won't destroy their reputation. Unless they close the service without any notification, if that is the case then it will certainly result in a lot of customer money being trapped and then they disappear which is clearly a scammer. Building a reputation is difficult, but destroying it is very easy. So the concern is about keeping that reputation attached to their service, because just one mistake that happened at least was enough to make the reputation drop a bit.
9930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- now at: 21/22 Qualifying Prelims on: July 28, 2021, 10:53:03 AM
Interesting games today in the preliminary qualifiers of Champions League.I think there is money to be made as always during these games,we only have to not touch difficult games and choose like easy ones.What I mean is if you want a nice win today at 1.50 odd we should choose Sheriff Tiraspol which plays against a much weaker team and they have won even away the first leg so playing at home should be an easy win for them.In the end this is gambling and anything can happen but in theory they should win easily.
Although this might be an easy money-making machine but I personally will still be careful betting in matches like this, with the wins that have been obtained, the home team may just play more relaxed with a draw which is basically safe for them. But if you want to move forward by betting on the top teams at this moment, then be careful you don't have to spend a lot of money because the most important thing is that we can enjoy the match with the bets we make. Because even a team like Olympiacos which I'm sure would easily have won big in the first leg, but the result only won 1-0 and that's something to consider in a game like this.
9931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling attracted to emotion or luck on: July 28, 2021, 08:12:13 AM
It probably has to do more of the mental aspect when it comes to gambling and being competitive in general. The more effort you give and strategize to a game, the more you will be affected when you lose. In your case, you get to enjoy your winnings because its either unexpected or you didn't really spend effort or time to make a precise decision on who to bet on. In result, your unexpected winnings would seem effortless for you and you feel more lucky than normal.
So it is more attractive to luck because gambling itself provides an opportunity to win for anyone, no matter what background their life is. If he has spent a lot of time and money to get the win that way, then of course it will be an emotion that can be controlled to achieve victory, even though not everyone is able to control emotions under pressure.
9932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: July 28, 2021, 06:48:48 AM
If you want to understand football progress, compare Arsenal and Arteta with the FA Cup win and their past 2 seasons; Then Compare Ole and Manchester United and the past two years. Which team has progressed?
I think to compare it only the last 2 seasons are not accurate, MU doesn't have a title in that between while Arsenal has the FA cup in 2020. Better to compare it to many years when MU has 4 Premier League titles in a row,  2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2010–11, and champions league 2007–08. while Arsenal 2003–04 but of course they are good on the FA cup when having the title in a row  2013–14, 2014–15, 2016–17, and barren title on the champion league.

It's very possible they have a different focus, we can't make the benchmark of Arsenal's achievement by getting the FA title is a success too. After all, in the last two seasons Manchester United can finish better than Arsenal on the Premier League leaderboard. So for me, these achievements cannot be a comparison because it is very possible that both of them have different focuses and of course with these differences their targets are also different and both are successful according to their own targets.
9933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: July 28, 2021, 04:41:48 AM
Barcelona may be planning to release Dembele or Griezmann. But I was saying that Atletico would be stronger if Grismann will join. And next season Real Madrid is forming a very weak team compared to the previous season. So with Griezmann in the squad, Atletico Madrid's chances of winning another title will increase.
Dembele wants to be released? I'm not sure about that and so far it's still a rumour. Even I'm not so sure Griezmann will leave Barcelona to return to Atletico and I'm sure he will stay at Barcelona. As for the chance of winning, I firmly believe Atletico will not be able to defend the La Liga title last season and reclaim it next season. Barcelona and Real Madrid are tough competitor for them, and I feel that if it's not Barcelona then Real Madrid will win it next season.

I haven't heard rumors of Dembele leaving Barcelona. But Barcelona will have to releas either Dembele or Griezmann. Griezmann does not want to leave Barcelona now and he has already announced that he is willing to reduce his salary. So I think Barcelona can sell Dembele.
On the other hand, I don't see Real Madrid as a title contender now. They have lost some important players in their team, new coaches in the team. Real Madrid have yet to sign a replacement for Ramos and Varane.
This is still related to salary, because Barcelona is also experiencing a crisis due to the impact of this pandemic. So naturally, rumors of selling some players might be raised in the media, but with Griezmann willing to cut his salary even by 50% then that is certainly good news. Considering if Atletico are willing to pay Griezmann at the normal price, then of course Griezmann will move but because Griezmann's salary is very high and Atletico are not willing to pay that salary, Griezmann's return to Atletico does not happen instead Griezmann is willing to cut his salary to stay at Barcelona.
9934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling ombudsman - do you feel protected? on: July 28, 2021, 02:48:30 AM
Of course, with such protection, gamblers will be calmer and more comfortable to deposit a lot of money. Because after all, whether there is protection or not, big gamblers will still deposit big money, right? Just imagine when such protection claims are enforced even better, then of course big gamblers no longer hold back from depositing more money. But for me, as an amateur gambler, I still only deposit money according to my ability and don't force myself to increase it because after all, gambling will be comfortable when we do it without pressure, right.
9935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling on friendly matches on: July 27, 2021, 01:59:29 PM
We don't have control over the games that we bet on. Friendly match or not, we do not control them. And for these friendly matches, the only one that has control over them are the higher management which seems going to be possible for them to manipulate the results at their will. In some sporting events, this is really happening and we don't know when that's going to happen but some athletes have voiced out that this is really an insider and happens as it's against their will.

I think this state of affairs is relevant for backward countries where business is not developed, but corruption is developed. In any developed country, top management will keep away from such affairs as far as possible, since even a suspicion of this can have serious consequences for a career, and if there is evidence, this will mean a criminal sentence.
However, sometimes big clubs just try a few strategies before the start of the league. When the strategy works well then of course, big wins will be unstoppable. But on the other hand, when the coach applies an experimental strategy with second-tier or even third-tier players being played, then it has a chance of getting defeated by the team that is underestimated. I have often found this case in the past few years, for that reason it is also better for me to avoid betting in friendly matches because for me, surprise scores are not only about manipulation because they can occur due to errors in strategy implementation due to experiments carried out in friendly matches.
9936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: July 27, 2021, 10:54:43 AM
For weekly salary I think there is no problem Man city must have understood how much they have to pay every week. From a business standpoint this is Tottenham's way of holding Kane back, with such a high offer no club is willing to pay for it, Tottenham are really taking a risk with this.
I'm a bit surprised about this news, Kane to ManCity is the big transfer ever in the premier league (160 M) after Pogba. I'm really sure the City doesn't have a problem with salary, even they have to move fast to get a replacement for Aquero. but, about the bad news above, what Kane did? why is banned?.


In this position Kane also can't do anything because he still has a contract at Tottenham so most likely Kane will not move this season
And Man City may not focus on new signings if they fail to get Kane, Pep Guardiola was more focused on yesterday's training session

Tottenham could sell Kane at a higher price this season. And with that money, they can stabilize the team, by purchasing new players. I think it's better to build a stable team without relying on Harry Kane alone. If Kane is not sold, they will lose the opportunity to make a lot of money.
Right, only relying on a few players is certainly not a good solution to achieve the title, and Kane can't stay at Tottenham forever because even to taste the Europa League competition is not possible. Even though he is still young but it is time for Kane to get a chance to play in the UCL next season, if City fail to get Kane then is it possible that City will succeed in getting Lewandowski who is older but still very sharp in scoring goals.
9937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sexy casinos on: July 27, 2021, 08:26:45 AM
I don't think all gamblers will easily get carried away like that, those who play for profit at least I'm sure sexy casinos will not easily influence them.

And i highly doubt about that. There no need to be fully distracted, just to get even a less attention away will be enough for the wrong decision and as result - total loss. So i think the right conclusion will be sound like that: Gamblers who play for profit don't go to such sexy casinos.



It takes an experienced gambler to ignore the temptation and to be fully focused, and if the gambler is a young man coming from a conservative country he will be out of focus and eventually lose even if he is serious about winning, it's better if you have this characteristic to just don't play on sexy casinos, sexy casinos are for gamblers who don't care about losing and winning and just want to be entertained and it's part of the entertainment.
That's also true, but that doesn't mean those who gamble for profit won't come to sexy casinos because after all, having entertainers like that can at least be a brain refresher, right. So there's no harm in coming to sexy casinos if they can control not to be too tempted, because if they are purely just for fun then I guess they could choose not to spend their money on gambling, but just enjoy the eye-pleasing view. Therefore, when they come to sexy casinos or not at least they have the desire to win in gambling even though it is a low win but at least it makes them happy isn't it.
9938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anything like excess gambling on: July 27, 2021, 06:28:11 AM
Excessive gambling isn't fun, except you always win, which is improbable. Once your budget is spent, that's it, it's time to stop.
Yeah, the urge is still there, but it's similar to control yourself so you don't eat too much meat and stuff. In the end, you are free to do anything you want, but remember that overspending your time and money doing useless stuff will halt your career progression, and in worse case, you can get a lot of problems.
Right, they can continue to gamble as long as they still have money to spend but unfortunately, being indisciplined like that will only make life miserable. Unlike the case if they do it from the winnings they get, it will still keep their finances under control. So in this case, at least they should limit their time in gambling when they have lost a lot, because if it continues or becomes excessively aiming to take what has been lost, then of course they will get a lot of trouble that will endanger themselves and even their families.
9939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What does it take for a game to "hook" people on: July 27, 2021, 04:11:43 AM
It is an unstoppable feeling of testing the game and trying luck every time a gambler feels good with the game that he started to bet on. We've got that feeling whenever we're already hooked to the game and it's hard to stop when you're enjoying and at the same time you see yourself winning those bets and the game itself. There's a feeling of self-satisfaction as you gamble and play and you'll never know when to stop even if you're starting to feel that there's something wrong. This is the true meaning of being hooked to a game.
Yes, I agree about self-satisfaction that will come to us when we feel we enjoy playing the game. The casino knows how to hook us better by serving so many gambling games that can make us stay for a long time and spend the money. We will not realize that even we will not think about stopping for a while and break after playing for some time. The feeling can become bigger if we are winning those bets much time. If that happens for some time, that can be the time to get addicted to the game.
So to attract people is basically about promotions and other bonuses and not about feelings, because the feeling will arise to continue playing when you are comfortable. So, even if there are no promotions and bonuses made in the game, they will continue to play in the game. It's different if there is a bonus offer in an existing game, at least with a bonus offer they will play the game even though they basically don't like the game. Alluring and feeling or comfort have differences and they are not the same.
9940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a gambler? on: July 27, 2021, 02:28:16 AM
Some of us think when gambling is just for fun, then it may not be called a gambler. But for me, even though you only gamble for fun by spending a lot of time having fun gambling, then for me that activity is included as a gambler. For me, gamblers don't always have to spend a lot of money, with them sacrificing a lot of their time in gambling even though they only spend a little money but still, they are gamblers who may only differ about addicts or not.
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