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9981  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 13, 2016, 01:26:02 PM
Hell yeah I would still gamble because then I do not even have to worry about losing money so I could gamble as much as would want to. I would not do it to often tho.
Because it does not matter if you are rich you can still end up being broke.

That's the reason why some gamblers never get rich. Even if they had enough they still want to chew on. If you were rich, you would just return to being poor since you didn't take care of your wealth. Anyway, I think I won't be gambling if I am rich. But if I would invest, I would do it, anyway I could earn there if I invest.

yeah good idea investing anyway is also risky but in a very calculated way so instead of gambling it would be wise to invest. also i don't think being rich is a good reason to gamble because there are a lot of rich people who didn't only go bankrupt, but ended up being deep in debt as well
9982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: There is no life in Gambling can you accept this....?? on: October 13, 2016, 01:00:57 PM
I can really understand this and I also do not have any problems with this due to the fact that its not bad at all in my eyes.
Gambling should also not take over your life or something near that due to the fact it has to be for the fun.

Yes, if we can't control ourselves, we had better see the doctor, gambling addiction is a disease. If we can't control our life, we would lose everything due to gamble.

woah woah i don't think it needs to come to that. gambling if done responsibly has a lot of it's positive effects if you just stay on the fun side of it. if you're lucky even you could earn quite a lot. i think you just have to regulate yourself when it comes to betting because anything that is excessive is not good
9983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does gambling worth playing? on: October 13, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Everyday my friend gambles with his money as same with his life and he always gambling throwing away his money for nothing but losing and the worth part of it is he owes me money  Angry Angry

Gambling was made to be fun, if you or your friends already lend money to gambling then it is not correct anymore, i think your friends already addicted to gambling, seek some help to help your friend, and dont lend any money to your friend anymore, if you lend him he will fall deeper to addiction

yeah defnitely gambling is worth playing especially if you're playing it with your friends. although that's only up to a certain point as if you get too much into it, addiction would come in and that would be a very big problem. as you've said you have to stop when you've already used up your capital nad make sure you control yourself from loaning or borrowing because it would really be hard to stop at that point
9984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 13, 2016, 12:52:41 PM
It is wrecking my life, i bet too much money and bankroll busted, damn I was broke, now i make money with altcoin, earning some coins back.

Well I guess you must control your self as you gamble because that is going to be worst if you don't know how to manage that properly.

And that's a good way to recover and you have found another source of recovering your losses, just keep on doing that and you are able to recover it in the future.

But don't gamble again fast when you had able to recover it already.

yeah i think spending in alt coin trading is a whole lot profitable than simply gambling with your btc. it is in a way still gambling as you dont know how the coins will move but it would be a lot more calculated that plain gambling.
9985  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: October 13, 2016, 12:49:45 PM
It is said that bitcoin will destroy the fiat system but i believe that if this happens the world will change completly because banks and a lot of things will go out of market.

The destruction of the fiat system by Bitcoin is possible but very unlikely. Banking is an established thing in this world since around 2000 BC and I don't think anything could destroy it in the near future. But in the long perspective, in 200 years maybe, it is quite possible IMO.
Our world is ruled by the government. No matter which country that is, the government is totally in control. Democracy is just a term that they use, it's not even real anymore. Anyway, fiat money is just one of the ways the government controls their people. They will definitely put up a fight just to make sure that Bitcoin doesn't take over.

But, there's no way they could battle Bitcoin because it's just a data. That would be their major problem in making sure that fiat stays since Bitcoin isn't being controlled by anyone, then they can't blackmail, threaten, or have an agreement with somebody about Bitcoins.

yeah i agree with all of you here, even though bit coin is as of the moment gaining momentum and will most likely be used more in the coming years, it's almost impossible for it to defeat fiat, not in 2022 nor i think in the next couple of decades. possible it may be at par with fiat currency in the future but i think most people will still be using fiat
9986  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 13, 2016, 12:36:05 PM
Gambling are considered as high risk investment website where you could lose money there in a second if you don't think twice Tongue i saw someone lately that his trying to double his 2 bitcoin is busta and he got busted and he loses his bitcoin in a second what a kind of greedisness people
yeah gambling is very risky but gambling should not considered as a sickness. Because gambling itself is not an emotion that can think or can feel something. It is the addiction in gambling that can be considered as a sickness.

i agree with this because i think sickness is something that feeling in body, maybe its called addiction like many people said on here and its not good if we continue and we must stop this activity and we should stay away from this.

many people i heard that they can stop gambling but with helping from other people and its really important because other people can give suggestion and advice for that person to stop and distract that person mind to not thinking gambling only and ask to join with other positive activity.

it really depends if the person is actually serious in quitting because if a person is really that addicted, the wont matter what the people around that person is doing.  addiction is a sickness that can be caused by excessive gambling and i think one needs to regulate this while he is at the starting stage of gambling as to not succumb to addiction
9987  Other / Off-topic / Re: How much do you earn per day on: October 13, 2016, 12:15:39 PM
There is no fix payment structure for me in bitcoins as its difficult to expect a steady income in bitcoins but I can say that the fixed amount that I am earning is 0.14 monthly from signature campaign.

Yobit allows thier users to earn 0.006 a day and thats just what i earn if i get to post 20 which i hardly can.

This is why its not a good thing to fully go into bitcoin if you don't have better resources. It can b enough for me if i just  earn about 30 a day. Unfortunately. I don't.

I don't really reach 20 post a day, but sometimes I am trying to, but it's too hard and I can't think of any new idea so if I'm tired already, I stop posting. Well, in real life I earn atleast a minimum wage here in where I live, as of this time it is just enough for me alone, but since I need to  share too on some expenses in the house then I need to earn more.. I earn atleast  $10 a day in my day job.

yeah yobit ithink has the highest signature earnings if you just try to hit their max posts a day altough i think yobit is not accepting anymore. i also try to make 20 but it's most of the time draining so i try not to do 20 at the same time. i try to post twice or thrice at a time until  i reach 20 for the day. so i pretty much am able to hit that for a constant daily earning and i try to do some tradings on the side
9988  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2017 Year of the Bitcoin on: October 12, 2016, 02:27:23 PM
I would be satisfied if 2017 would turn out to be about as 2016.
Of course we would need no exchange hack in 2017.
But no halving is coming as well. I can imagine that these two factors might have compensated each other in 2016.
I think we made about 50% profit with bitcoin. If that would be again the case in 2017, I would say it's more than fine.

Yeah 2017 will surely an good year for bitcoin as there will be many new investors and companies that will start investing in bitcoin and when it comes to spending we will have many places that will start accepting bitcoin as a payment method.
yeah 2017 will be the best year of bitcoin and the bitcoin will be accepting on the online stores as payment and it will be one of the currency will be use to provide anything you can start bitcoin with business if you want too and hope that bitcoin will be accepted on physical stores.

hopefully, it's been a pretty good 2016 and it's not even done yet. haven't been a year since i started but i can say it in a way changed how i look at earning so i'm looking forward as well to 2017, can't go anywhere but up from here mates
9989  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 12, 2016, 01:15:28 PM
If you are looking for a steady income,  better to look for a business you start  and plan your earnings to invest  to your own business for the first time you will lose, but  don't worry if you success promoting you r site you will have a possive  income, daily or weekly.

Yes but steady income is not from a business for the first few years until your business is up and running steadily.
The first years of running a business is sweat and tears with loss and profit here and there.
Yeah and you cannot expect to start making profits from the first day of your business and you will surely go through tough times at initial stage and it will take time for the things to get smooth.

of course. this applies to how most businesses started. it would also help to get a stable job first while you're still starting our business so you won't just rely on savings and earning while your business is just starting up
9990  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 12, 2016, 01:13:08 PM
Gambling became wrong if you abuse yourself and attach so much on gambling but as long as you control yourself from being addicted to it ,its not wrong . Many sees gambling is wrong because first thing comes to their mind is losing money and addicting on gambling.

The big question there is how will you control your self? and when is enough to stop... If you are not ready to lose and your money has other purpose in your life and yet you use it to gamble, then definitely you are doing it wrong... Gambling should only be done if you are rich and don't need money, stating a reason "for fun" in gambling I think is illogical...  Smiley
Yes i will ,i can by setting a limit to myself . Accepting the fact that many people rich or poor are into gambling ,why ? Is only rich can have some fun with it ? Most of the poor also gambles there's no restriction if you are rich or poor as long as you can handle your situation we are all equal in this world in some things .

Off course, everyone know his limit in gambling, like me and you know about that which amount we should use in gambling and if we lose than what the result will come. And also poor and rich people don't matter in gambling, i see most of the poor people are playing gambling instead of rich people.
Always set aside an amount for gambling purposes only, in that way you can discipline yourself even if you are losing and you will not result to chasing your bets, just focus on your goal which is to have fun only so your personal funds not intended for gambling will not be at risk.

yeah if you do it this way, you be able to see gambling in a different and fun perspective than when you try to gamble to make money easily. it lessens stress and pressure that you most like will get if your aim is just to earn
9991  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: October 12, 2016, 01:10:37 PM
Luck is much more useful.

Think about it like that, in money terms, have a big luck can gain you a big fortune, but having a lot of skills wouldn't do so.

It also depends what do you prefer , being really rich, or being the best at what you are doing.
I would choose the 2nd option, but it all depends on the person.




well it depends really because even if you get lucky, you have to know what to do and how to maximize what you have and that would require skill. but yeah if we talk about simply gambling here, well for example in a game of dice, i don't see where skill can get you here so yeah it depends on where you'll be needing it
9992  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: October 12, 2016, 01:06:24 PM
You shouldn't put more than 20% of your money into bitcoin, because you can end up being a homeless, who can't pay his bills.

You don't know what can happen to bitcoin, although we all trust and cover his value, you should always be ready to the worst scenario and always make sure you have enough money on the side to cover if bitcoin falls or something happens.

that there should always be a plan b or a contingency for emergency situations and i agree with you that btc right now is very promising and is beaming with potential, we really cannot be sure so it's better to distribute your money rather than place it on a single currency. better to be safe than sorry
9993  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 12, 2016, 01:03:56 PM
Gonna be honest I don't think any gambling is really fun anymore except sports
gambling. You get hours of entertainment so even if you lose you paid for entertainment.
As far as gambling watching dice turn on a computer screen... that I don't get.

Sports gambling is indeed much more favorable compared to other gambling. because Sports gambling are on a victory that cannot be manipulated or played, but it's still only give a bad effect for all those who do gambling. Because gambling addiction can give a very bad for us. Keep playing safely and don't overdo

yeah even highly over-matched teams sometimes do  upset highly favored teams or players. even for sports such as boxing, the odds may be a bit low but there is no assurance that the favored guy would always win. there's always a chance of the underdog making an upset. i think that, in a way. it gives more excitement to sports betting.
9994  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 12, 2016, 01:01:03 PM
I wish that I was rich from gambling but that is not the case but also because I do not even gamble that much because I know that I am just going to lose money again.
Only with poker I believe that you can become really rich or you have to have allot of luck.

ahah, all your thoughts are only being one sedative in defeat you always get in gambling. all existing gambling will surely give us lose money and one of gambling that you mention is something that has a fairly high level of loss. Better not do excessive gambling, because most of the things done in excess will be bad

yeah poker requires luck as well as experience and skill and even if you have all those, there are a lot of people who are more lucky, more skilled and more experienced out that so even with poker, it would be very hard to even win most of the time, more so to be rich
9995  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 12, 2016, 12:31:18 PM
I have seen some of my friends have stop gambling after they find it is not entertaining  nor profitable. Online gambling are really boring to myself too, maybe we are looking for more entertaining gambling sites similar to real casino house.
That must be true. The expectations of a girl must be always different from men and hopefully they will not love the entertainment of mixture of winning and losing streaks. Some girls are not practical and not ready to accept losses in gambling, so they will never understand the real and peculiar way of entertainments of gambling.

Yeah, that's something the right thing. most women don't like gambling, because it is their dislike of defeat and do not like gambling system. So only women who do require a lot of money or forced to gambling that will do. Because it is essentially the women prefer to receive than trying to get something
i can't really agree with what you've said that only women who require a lot of money gambles. as the previous posts said, it depends on women's preference for the reason they're gambling. i know a lot of girls who just simply enjoy going to casinos and challenge themselves with poker. though there are fewer girls than men who engage in gambling, they still gamble and that't not only for money
9996  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 12, 2016, 12:27:51 PM
If you were in desperate need for money / Bitcoins, what would you do? How to get it, earn it, whatw are your solutions and experiences? I wonder what people are ready to do when money is the problem.
For other people Maybe scamming  is the only way to get bitcoins in times you need bitcoin in fast way. I dont think someone will give you if your begging for it.
I would need to take on a job or if I would need to money right away then I would have no other option left but to take a loan.
That is the only option left because I am not going to steal or anything to make money.

Yeah and stealing money in crime and if you get caught then it will be an black mark on your character so its always better to take a loan or borrow money from your friends or family.
yeah if it comes to worst loaning from trusted people would be a whole lot better than trying to illegally obtain money. it shouldn't even be thought of to do things illegally so if working hard and trying to earn in some other way, then loan money but make sure you pay it in time
9997  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: October 12, 2016, 11:57:41 AM
Gambling is not made for kids and I do not think that it would also be a good idea for kids to be introduced to gambling.
It is better for them to not come in contact with it because otherwise they will have some interest in it because they see that only adults can gamble.

I think gambling is indeed made for everyone, but I do not agree if kids are allowed to conduct gambling, because of the risk that would be obtained for the kids and also parents is very dangerous and it will give you a very bad history. the kids did better given some of the other things that are more useful as the contest, sign campaign, or faucet

yeah gambling is not made for kids but eventually they would be exposed to it sooner or later so i think it's better for parents to explain it to them early on so that when time comes that they are provided a situation wherein gambling is concerned, they know how to be responsible with it
9998  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: October 12, 2016, 11:53:28 AM
I have no doubts about the fact that the Dollar will win from the Bitcoin because the bitcoin is still too small and the Dollar is way to big to get defeated.
What people also are saying is true the bitcoin is a sort of depending on it.

We can say that although it is getting some problems now due to Saudi Arabia stopped the mining of oil. We know US is invested in there and I thing they got a lot of shares from those company. This is also one reason why oil price is going up. With the lost of this investment they could easily lose some value in their currency also.

And I think that the dollar will always lose Bitcoins. In the future, a growing interest in Bitcoin will grow. This will increase and its price. Since the dollar is not going to happen

In the long term, the dollar will drop against the bitcoin. But the short term price will be volatile.

i'm not really sure about that but hopefully, since i'm earning already and i'm seeing how btc can make my life better in the future and definitely because i'm sticking with btc. however, i think it's still going to be a long way if btc will dislodge the dollar as the main currency. may not happen in the next decade but hopefully btc is still alive by then and is more widely accepted
9999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 12, 2016, 11:43:51 AM
I do not think that we should blame gambling for all of this because the people decide for them selves to go out and gamble no body is saying that they have to gamble.
People can make there own choices if they want to spend money on gambling then they should.


Indeed, gambling is not wrong, because gambling appears to give some solutions that may not be done by some existing activities. gambling is actually just for the fun of it, but eventually misused by those who only think of profit and want to get rich quick (greedy)

Exactly that is true people have very wrong thinking about gambling because take it as way to make profit for their daily life, even it is one of best way to make fun with this exciting way and that I also will do agree with you, it depend on our mind which made it sickness there.

well i can be very easy for us to say that gambling should only be for fun as i also agree with that. it's just hard sometimes for other people especially for beginners because when you actually get the feeling of winning already there's that urge to try to win more. then f you lose you'll get that urge to try and win it back. i think it's already human nature. gambling is not sickness, addiction is but sometimes it really very hard for people to avoid it
10000  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 12, 2016, 11:35:24 AM
Timberwolves vs. Heat

Link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUNhSGS9QyI

Final Score MIN 109 - 100 MIA

The Timberwolves showed in the game that they are really competitive when they are with strong opponents unlike today in which they faced the Hornets and Lost. They showed that they want to win on matches in which the Team is known with the City. I am happy that KAT can be reliable all the time still seeing some weaknesses with Wiggins' Jumper all the time. Dunn also had a great game with 7 assist hoping to see more of them during the regular season.
you are right mate it seems that when they played against well known team they wanted to show real skills but today's game we seen little bit slow pace and not that dedicated as we expect them to be i love wiggins there's a lots for him to improved more deadlier in this coming season hope to see them in play off and get some huge rally to be more successful.

well i think it's already high time for the wolves this year and more next year. their young guys should by now have already matured in a sense and they've  i think chemistry would be a big factor here. wiggins and towns would most likely be the face of the wolves in the coming years and there's nowhere to go for these two than to improve on their games which should be scary for the other teams. i think they would be a contender this year and i can't imagine how scary they will be in the next 2 or three years. a shuffle is definitely inevitable in the western conference Cheesy
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