CoinMarketCap says circulating supply is 421,300 but there are more than 8,000,000 coins in wallets at Cryptopia.

Something not look right.

Should research first before giving 3btc to anybody who claims to get a listing on Bittrex for that.

https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/202583854-Submitting-a-Coin-to-Bittrex

https://247cryptonews.com/bittrex-asks-10000-btc-to-list-new-coins/

It might be that they will take 3btc discreetly to list but if you start mentioning it publicly then they will disavow.

Anyway 3 btc is about what Cryptopia is charging and a coin only needs so many 3 btc exchanges.

MND has been touching 100 sats on Yobit but Cryptopia is too expensive for new coins so better probably to spend the small amount of dot collected on something else, maybe convert to MND and use as bounty?

They earn property the same way everybody else does, by taking it from others.

That's kind of a low altitude observation.

Finding aliens, for most people, would decrease the significance of local currency i.e., the relative price of any currency would be less worth obsessing over.

But also worth noting that when you meet a super smart person, that person usually is very sure of extra terrestrial intelligence, even without formal data to prove it. Food before telescopes though 

You are not following the argument.

1) A person is not free to "live in nature". Unless you go to the middle of the desert, or buy a boat and sail to antarctica, you will face some interference from governments.

2) Very few people want to completely abolish all services. The issue is not "all services vs no services", the issue is why should we spend $5 trillion http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/war-costs-report-brown-university or $14,000 for every man, woman and child, to invade a country whose dictator we installed, only to make the region less stable anyway. The average household in America is about 3 people, roughly $35,000 to $40,000 per household that was worse than wasted, it actually did harm.

3) One of the foundations of America specifically, if you research its origins, is the importance of the consent of the governed. Today America is not a political entity that governs a population, it is an assemblage of law enforcement entities that incentivize their employees to create criminals, to turn citizens into law breakers by adjusting laws to increase the number of criminals. Taxes are an excellent example.

Coerced consent is not really consent. Governments use force and threats now instead of the will or consent of the governed. Like Bill Cosby with his romances, there are very few complaints but calling it consent is a stretch.

Use small amounts at first, notice the comments from people who lost money because of maintenance wallets, price fluctuations etc.

For the last week bcn has had an enormous spread between cryptopia and poloniex.

Right now you could buy a btc worth at cryptopia at 127 i.e., 780,000 bcn and sell them on poloniex at 187 for 1.45 btc as long as both wallets work, price does not move quickly against you, no security issues, no other problems etc. Some risk but fair potential gain.

Asked Cryptopia about the price of a listing https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1674315.new#new since bitcoin has gone up a bit recently and 2,000,000 dot or 0.8 btc is kind of steep.

Donated a little dotcoin but well short of the goal.

Would be interesting to hear what project you have in mind.

According to https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Paytopia it is 2 000 000 dotcoin to list a coin, about 0.8 btc right now.

Are you going to adjust the price of listings as btc fluctuates?

Mindcoin is trying to raise funds for a listing but 0.8 btc is more than 10% of the marketcap of the coin.

People who seek military and political power always do it for their own peculiar psychological reasons, but they couch their ambition in glowing terms, i.e., they want to 'protect liberty'. 'defend' something etc.

They will always find a justification for their mischief and loads of buddies with the same problem to back up their opinions with guns.

The problem is that fake wars create fake heroes and fake problems lead to fake solutions which do not work long term.

It would be a good thing for any number of people to try for some important goal, like extending humanity to outer space, even if 90% of them died. The deaths would be for something useful. But feeding millions of people into a corporate theater company to die miserable deaths so some sociopaths with power can gloat about their 'vision' and 'the tough decisions they make', is getting boring.

 

Orange juice beats coca cola too, but orange juice did not have a corporate ico to raise millions for a massive initial pump.

 It's a new exchange but better than a lot of older exchanges. So far they have been very fair to small coins. Post a dotcoin address for donations, I think they require dotcoin to list a coin, or post a btc address? 

The money spent invading Iraq could have bought cheap housing for 90% of America's homeless, and still be money left over to feed 10 million hungry people in the 3rd world for 10 years. Pulled those numbers out of my ass but they are probably close.

Some trivia

In late March 2016 Google searches for the term 'gridcoin' spiked very briefly and quickly fell back.

But from 2 weeks ago til the last measurement 'gridcoin' searches are at a high that lasted over 2 weeks.

For the first time ever two weeks ago there were briefly more searches for 'gridcoin' than for 'boinc'. 

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%2012-m&q=boinc,gridcoin

Can you start a btc bounty wallet to list Mindcoin on Cryptopia, along with an estimate of how much it will cost?

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I don't do it because I would just spend the donations on cheap wine, but you can be trusted to arrange things properly.

Here is an easy way to make money if you don't know too much about coins.

1) Find a newer exchange that doesn't have a lot of people.

2) Go to coinmarketcap and open that exchange's page e.g. https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/cryptopia/

3) Make sure you have BTC selected as the currency.

4) Go down the list from high volume to low volume and find a coin that trades at substantially different prices on two exchanges. For example buy/sell 0.0001/0/0002 on one exchange and 0003/0.0004 on another.

5) Look at the histories of that coin on both exchanges and decide if confirmation times allow you to be pretty sure of making money.

6) Look at depth on both exchanges and make sure it looks adequate in both directions.

7) Never risk more than you can afford or need to risk. On low volume coins traded on obscure exchanges you could walk into a trap so avoid exchanges known for setting people up, e.g. exchanges that list overtly bad coins.

Arbitrage is still wide open in crypto and a good way to learn about coins, since you should research a coin before you arbitrage it. Anybody could have made some program to arbitrage all coins across exchanges, but I guess the experts are leaving low fruit for new people.

Arbitrage provides a service, it lowers prices and keeps predatory trading in check, and can also be profitable.

So far most activity in coins has been buyers speculating on miner's issues and shortterm commercial appeal e.g. pumpability of a coin.

Soon there will be mainstream interest in coins probably, along with opinions and publicity based on very high levels of scrutiny.

Coins like GRC should start doing much better than the coins that have been pumped on big name developers, ico's etc. Look at all of the coins more expensive than GRC, currently # 73 / 49 on cmc top 100 / all. Most of those higher market cap coins have been inflated by their supporters to gain market share and visibility, while grc has no pumpers, nobody has manipulated the price temporarily upward for short term profit as with many other coins.

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Some advice for people buying coins like this.

If you are a new person wanting to buy a coin, you don't need to rush in and push the price up, since the price will usually just drop back down eventually.

If you buy some then put an order in to buy more at a slightly higher price, then usually you can wait a day or two and you will get the order filled, you will get more coins for the same amount of money. Not always, but usually.

In the long run going from Obama to Trump is like going from indigestion to vomiting, but it is good for the country. Obama pledged to make America great again, and he tried. Trump wants to make America interesting again, and he is succeeding.

Agree with you mostly, but calling her "a two faced liar" is extreme. The vast majority of people work for money, not for ideals. You should call her "a good employee". Trump likes hookers, she is inexpensive and not bothered by ethical questions. A perfect match. Somebody who sweeps floors in his casino isn't working because they like the dirt that falls on the floor. A tobacco company employee doesn't necessarily think cancer is good.

America is run by bots. The people who hold office are just actors giving cover to the bots.