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Darling, sweetheart, here's the thing, it could be negotiable that you use linksme.ga account to finish discussion regarding TOKPIE's questionable decision because your main account get temporarily banned, but it's another different case if you keep using this alt-account to update this project, because that's borderline ban-evasion and it's forbidden by the forum.
CryptorClub, will manage this and Tokpies topics as soon, as his account will be available. |
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This might be a misunderstanding between the two parties. I explored some of the ones you both present. About the Green token main chain. If we refer to token trackers, what we can see together is that the ERC-20 network runs first than the polygon network which means the ERC-20 network is first the GREEN main chain. ERC20 network - 1st transfer is 11 may 2018 Polygon network - 1st transfer is April 14, 2021 Tokpie's claim in this case makes more sense to me. Based on one of the screenshots of the conversation in this post, a deal was struck on April 6th to be listed on Tokpie and other services before the polygon chain GREEN was created. And the GREEN Team also can't insist that Tokpie has to support polygon networks, although technically your reason is justified but you don't list your token to support 2 different networks in Tokpie.
About being listed on Coingecko (CG), I don't know how experienced Tokpie is with this. I think you are too confident to give listed offers only 24 hours. Even more so if you only make your exchange only as data preference. The Green team should also realize this is too easy to be true for (sorry to say) a low quality project and you should ask for a money back guarantee on the initial agreement if it doesn't work out in time. It will be a CG confusion, when the main network is changed to polygon, on the other hand the Tokpie team might just add market list of GREEN with their own exchange which doesn't support polygon network. That's why GREEN is hard to be listed there.
As a suggestion to solve the problem for both of you, then consider these things: Firstly, @Tokkie however you have failed to list this coin on CG, even after 24 since the April 6 email was sent. You should return the money immediately consciously at that time if you are a professional. Second, @GREEN you can't actually claim a refund because there's no agreement about it, instead you're asking for more than the original agreement. Although this attempt at listing was not successful, there is a process that must be rewarded with money even if it will be lower than what was originally agreed. I don't agree if the return has to be 100% and I don't agree if there is no return at all. At least a few percent, depending on how far the process was. Regarding refund. I propose about 50% refund twice. Twice got note: no refund. I understand your position: no agreement - no refund. In same way agreement was to list 24 hours to CoinGecko and 72 hours to Etherscan, not telling about CoinMarketCap. No of this wasn't done. We ask about 50% refund twice to close questions from us. 100% refund we asking only now (its not more, than we sent). Because their work completely ineffective and after two 50% refund rejects we spend time on this topic. Regarding main chain of Green Token. When we tell in our Telegram Group about Polygon is main chain we meant, that there most exchanges count at that moment and even now. In same time Ethereum network ERC-20 token never stops working. Main reason, why it has no activity, that is 100$ fee for simple transfer or exchange is a little bit insane for any user, that use token of not so huge project as ours. To Polygon any user can at any time deposit their ERC-20 tokens (Trade there with ~$0.01 fee) and withdraw back to Ethereum and trade on it also. Hope its clear By the way we never ask about supporting Polygon network on Tokpie, the ask was only add contract address of GREEN to Coingecko, while list, what was accessible from the beginning and its not confusion for Coincgecko (as a lot of tokens support both chains and Coingecko track it). Anyway even Ethereums contract was not added to CG. Polygon should be second step. |
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What do you mean both parties? We never post fake team and don't agreed to do that.
Or I understand something wrong? Do you read whole thread?
I didn’t say you used a fake team but both of your behaviors, characters are kinda unethical. You have planned tokpie exchange to get volume? Don't you think it's unethical? That's why I have said both of you are unethical, shady. I don't know before purchase what exactly they planned to do. Volume was not our order. Our order was listing to CG, CMC and etherscan. "Volume Assistance" they provide for free, and I don't know what exactly it is before purchase. In same way we understand what is liqudity and its normal practice as in CEX as in DEX. Trading bots is also normal practice. Fake volume not ethical, if its not covered by, at least, bots. No? So if bots trading between each other is also not ethical? Anyway I don't think before about "Volume Assistance" definition, so can't recognize my behavior as unethical. Especially, if I don't order it. |
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Tons of hours were spent to provide them with agreed services. Everything was done from our side (trading, vol assistance, promotion, and guidance on what to do to pass trackers). Might be you think we should re-develop their web, find team members for them and do all other development staff. Appearing on trackers is mutual co-working. We did our part, they did not. So, what refund they are asking for now!
You measure your work with hours. We not order hours - we order result. Result should be after 24 hours. Our part with work was not required on their proposal. You ask to post fake team. We reject it and ask refund. Your fairy tail about 24 hours equals tons also not true. Now I'm ask about 100% refund. Business with you not interested after all.
What you propose now? What should we post for completition?
I will close this proceedings, if two from this three things will be met (Coingecko, Etherscan, CoinMarketCap) in next ten days.
In other case - 100% refund in ETH.
From our side, the work was done and we continue to support your ERC20 token. Moreover, we give you as much time as you need to improve your project web quality to satisfy CG requirements.
But, If you will not close these proceedings in the next 10 days we keep the right to delist you forever because of your bestial attitude to all work that we provided to you.
P.S.
This is my last post in this thread.The work not done. Result not met. About improving web quality by our part with our team or fake team members was not in your starter proposal. This is your decision - last post or no. Our communication with you and loss of 0.343ETH and this topic now part of Bitcointalk community, after rejection of 50% refund twice and 100% after all. Now I may conclude for myself: Tokpie = Lie Tokpie = Scam Beware to work with Tokpie. -1 Rep added only now. |
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If I understood perfectly, I guess both of the guys are unethical & both deserve a negative tag for practicing such unethical activities. Both parties are dishonest which I would more comfortable with to say scammer as indirectly it's the same as a scam.
What do you mean both parties? We never post fake team and don't agreed to do that. Or I understand something wrong? Do you read whole thread? |
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We are not interested on pairs from the start. The main reason why we start work is Coingecko listing, what wasn't done nor in 24 hours nor in 72 hours. Now you say all work done, CoinGecko is our troubles, that it still not listed. No, its not. To pass Coingecko we provided them with trading, vol assistance, promotion, Coinpaprika, blog post, and guidance on what to do to pass Coingecko. But Coingecko doesn't accept them because of their low web/project quality.
We are not order trading volume assistance, not order promotion and also not order guidance on what to do to pass Coingecko... The quality of project you have seen on the start when write proposal (24 hours listing to coingecko), and do not tell that needed team section or other modification. Than took money. Than we wait more than 24(and 72) hours. Coingecko not passed (with it not passed Etherscan and CoinMarketCap) After that you propose to post fake team - we not do that. Games with volume assistance - not effective to pass Coingecko after you rejected volume. We ask about 50% refund twice - you reject it. Now you tell, that is "our troubles" Now I'm ask about 100% refund. Business with you not interested after all. Behaviour a lot of lie fail Coingecko fail Etherscan fail CoinMarketCap games with volume until rejection spended time on whole discussion and this topic What you propose now? What should we post for completition? I will close this proceedings, if two from this three things will be met (Coingecko, Etherscan, CoinMarketCap) in next ten days. In other case - 100% refund in ETH. |
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Perfect! You confirm that your official token is a Matic token (absolutely different from the one that you listed on Tokpie). So, once again how can we continue to list your old (not supported) token? Moreover, how dare you ask a REFUND for the services that were provided for your ERC20 token and infiltrate us now with that thread.
Lie.You are not provided service! And know about Matic (and its absolutely different address) from the start, and mentioned on your blog - is not an argument. Fact - you not provided CG, CMC, Etherscan.
Of course, we delist your token because you stopped mentioning your ERC20 token on your web.
No mention: https://ibb.co/WtPJnXW
You delist token from Tokpie - True - Please make refund Lie.Its token ALIVE, man, and you can find places, where it mentioned. No mention: https://ibb.co/WtPJnXW - On the first screenshot, you provided you may see huge green button that follows to page, that entire related to token. The reason why its not traded on eth, because of crazy commissions for gas in Ethereum. You trying abandon any ERC-20 token on Ethereum. Its tradable and alive! And its not old! You have captured different part of site, where token not mentioned, its not an argument to stop service. You complete delist token - refund, please!
What's are you talking about. Nothing edited!
Lie.I provide both screenshots to see your deleted lines.
So, you confirm that service was ok. But then, you decided that is better to blackmail money from us and abandon your ERC20 token.
Lie.It's not ok! It's you abandon our token. Sir, sorry that I'm again trying to focus you on whole post. There is absolutely no arguments on each lie that we post and again generated new lie. |
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ok Hello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man! CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways: 1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie. 2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund. This man is a blackmailer! Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality. Bottom line.- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25? - Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us? - We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user. [...] Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier. BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too. As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.
Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8
Screenshot 2: https://ibb.co/d7LS2qP
Screenshot 3: https://ibb.co/QDCYS0v
Screenshot 4: https://ibb.co/sySrtWMSecond, is there a logical, acceptable, or whatever reason you can provide that explains why you stopped the lifetime volume assistance support? No matter who blackmailed who --I'd like to point out that YOUC, your partner, is also blackmailing CryptorClub, threatening that they'll have a very bad review that'll appear on google's top result-- a deal is a deal, you promised volume assistance that's free for as long as the project live. Not only that, as per their claim, you also failed to deliver the promise where they'll be listed on CoinGecko, CMC, etc.
The logic is simple. The Green exchange listed its ERC20 GREEN token on Tokpie (on April 25) and Tokpie made what was offered (screenshots above). Then, Green exchange changed (NOT TELLING to Tokpie) its token to the new one GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9
Proving link on their telegram: https://t.me/greencoinexchange/417. But, Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network (and CryptorClub knows that), so vol service and even trading his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore. CryptorClub decided to use it as an occasion to get money back despite a lot of work made for him. Shame man.
Moreover, the fact that he did not notify us about such a vital network change means that he cheated us.I couldn't care less about what other project said about you in the past. There are a lot of projects that started good and left the stage in the years that follow. Like YOUC, for example, and how their thread is now abandoned. So, what is your version for these two accusation points I state above?
Agree with you! but our Btt thread is not abandoned and part of the positive feedbacks provided above are fresh The Matic Network and GrandpaGreen (absolutely different token) is not related at all to this thread! Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network (and CryptorClub knows that), so vol service and even trading his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore. Lie, that could NOT be provided technically. They provide trading until this topic was created. GREEN token always has erc-20 standard on Ethereum and nothing was changed! WE NEVER ASK to provide trading volume on Matic network. GREEN is not old - is live token in Ethereum network, that can be deposited/withdrawed from/to Matic Network as any other ERC-20 standard token. We ask to add Matic contract address on CG, and they say no problem. Letter below https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.pngSo Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network is also lie, because they agree to add it on the stage of negotiation. his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore means, that from moment of Bitcointalk topic creation? Right? All worked good(for ETH pair) until letters in December? Because was no letters regarding problems with Matic before. By the way, you agree to work with it on stage of negotiations. So if service can't be provided, why still no refund? Then, Green exchange changed (NOT TELLING to Tokpie) its token to the new one GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9GREEN Token was never changed. We don't have to inform about any other tokens we launched on other networks and GrandpaGreen ( GGREEN - is absolutely other token with other unique name and ticker) and its not related to this topic! Other thing, that any user with his any ERC-20 token launched on Ethereum can deposit/withdraw it to Matic network, and there it has another contract address. So this is official GREEN token address on Matic 0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81 Lie.We talk our token can be deposited to Matic from the start. Here they agree to add Matic address to CoinGecko https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.pngAnd they personally provide screenshot, where was mentioned Matic. The both ways emails here https://i.ibb.co/SfKGw9j/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-00-46-13-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.pngHere is request about exactly this Matic address https://i.ibb.co/MDPhHM4/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-47-25-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.pngHere is response, that no problem, they can add it https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.pngAfter that they made post on their blog, mentioning Matic and original contract address on Matic 0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81 https://i.ibb.co/F4XLTjv/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-59-35-Tokpie-Green-Exchange-is-SCAM-and-Grandpa-Green-Token-is-SCAM.pngLink on post: https://tokpie.io/blog/trade-green-exchange-token/Moreover, the fact that he did not notify us about such a vital network change means that he cheated us. Lie.About notification response in previous block (At it was not change but possibility of any token). And its not related to this topic. ERC20 (Green Token) GREEN was launched on ethereum and Its contract address: 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 Its name and network was never changedBecause its technically impossible nor to change name nor to change network. This token still alive and can be: Deposited, Withdrawed, Transferred Anyway Nor GREEN (as token, that has Matic possibility) Nor GrandpaGreen (that is absolutely other token) not related to this topic at all. Your team NOT make listing of ethereum erc-20 GREEN token with address (0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544) on: CoinGecko Etherscan CoinMarketCap Forever free volume rejected (ETH/WBTC/USDT - Ethereum mainnet) Please focus on that. 1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25) We got listing service on Tokpie (what has no priority) with forever free volume, but not on (CG,CMC, Etherscan - that has priority) In May we first time ask about 50% refund 2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. Lie.First we ask them twice to get 50% refund to close this question. In May and in DecemberOnly then CryptorClub post topic on Bitcointalk. Then they wrote in Telegram, screenshot in starter post, that they delist token from everywhere - and already delist it from Tokpie! 100% refund asked now After they reject 50% refund proposal twice, in May and in December, when rejected volume assistance and on actual time delisted from Tokpie. And because spent a lot of time right now including this topic work. - Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
Lie. We also already asked about 50% refund first time in May.https://i.ibb.co/LgrTwQh/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-22-35-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.pngAlso was letters in July and Aug with volume problems. Late Aug letter you ignored. The first reason, why we wait, that this volume assistance can be positive in long term for possibility to be listed on CoinGecko. The second reason - is trial to trust to Tokpie (refused to provide team section) he could not pass CG About team publishing they not ask on the start and took money to list in 72 Hours. Also they propose to publish fake team and brilliantly edit their email screenshot. Original one: https://i.ibb.co/2Pq1hKY/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-42-54-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.pngTheir fake/edited screenshot CryptorClub were exchanging emails with Tokpie team on April, which emails can be summed as that Tokpie promised a promotion, free lifetime volume assistance, and listing on CG, CMC, etc. within 24-72 hours after the payment, which set us roughly around the end of April 2021 at the latest to see all of the deals to be completed. So why do they waited until December, more than 7 months, to report the failed deal? I'm curious if there are other exchanges of emails between April and December. Further, TOKPIE's reply on this part of email gave an impression to me that CryptorClub missed a step or two, I'd really appreciate if either side can give an information about this  Given CryptorClub is currently temporarily banned from the forum for incentivizing post, I understood that his reply will be delayed for at least until January 2022 and LinksMe.ga is jumping in to fill the position, I'll appreciate if LinksMe.ga can answer and shed some light into the matters I asked. There was letters between these gap, with such topics (not so important for our opinion): 50% refund in MayThey tried to boost volume, and convinced that fail with CG would be compensating with free volume, to have more chance to be listed in future https://i.ibb.co/LgrTwQh/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-22-35-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.pngThan we not control process and find in July, that stopped volume assistance. They renew it after request, on that moment on three pairs In early Aug was few letters about BNB pair possibility They request with additional payments for this In late Aug we ask about check their volume trading assistance, wasn't stable They ignored it Than we not control the volume assistance and checkup it in Dec - two pairs from three was not active and Coingecko isn't possible during their last emails at all they changed/add new rules and ask about new money depositing for volume boosting seems ask about new 950$ for CG form update. Here is the full letter, because on previous screenshot only part visible https://i.ibb.co/p4dJ2TC/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-04-44-18-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.pngYou may see, that additional services payments for updates needed (you may see its not purple, added specially) CMC(950$) + CG(950$) and only after at least CG(950$) they will update etherscan. And after all of this, they delisted GREEN from Tokpie and post, that they something technically can't here on Bitcointalk. his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore. Shame on me The first reason, why we wait, that this volume assistance can be positive in long term for possibility to be listed on CoinGecko. Shame on me The second reason - is tried to trust to Tokpie, that with volume, that can do something. Shame on me |
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10 000 Green Tokens for each pair ETH, BTC, USDT = 30000 Green Tokens in total
20000 was needed for additional (BTC and USDT) pairs setup, because they start from one pair (ETH) and ask only 10000.
Should be clear.
Thank you for pay attention!
Alright, makes sense now BTCITA187 was online today but didn't bother responding to the scam accusation. In the next few days, I will mark them as scammers if they don't do anything to resolve the scam accusation. I would also advise you to create type 1 and type 2 flags ob their profiles if they don't work on the issue in the coming days. Thank you for help! Don't used before type 1 and type 2 flags. Will mark in few days. |
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Ahh, I see now. So by "personal results", you're referring to the liquidity provided and funded by the project itself. And for daily volume, pardon the cluelessness, I am exre rarely use DEX and that was the first time I went to quickswap, so the cluelessness should be understandable. [1] As for development, the irony is you feeling you duplicating info and still failed to provide the exact information asked although the question is quite clear. If I have to be more specific, this is the point I wanted to know: On your GREEN ANN thread, you made these milestones below, [...] And three years after, an update of achieved milestones are on what the next images show. I am divided between if you had an outdated info on yout website, or... none of the initial achievement are actually achieved. [...] So please re-inform us, what achievement --aside from launching websites-- do you get from the past three and a half years to support your claim of clean reputation? [...] CryptorClub can't answer right now, so I will answer. The original group of QuickSwap in Telegram is https://t.me/QuickSwapDEXI ask to join Green Exchange group in telegram also. https://t.me/crytalkAfter researching uniswap I feel less sense to use CEXes in future. Liquidity can load any person at any time, and at anytime withdraw (with his revenue from each swap 0.3% that was done during this time), using transactions to smart contracts directly. Web user interface, that you see - is just interface. If tomorrow something happens with Uniswap/Quickswap domain names - you will have access to smart contract with another user interface or send commands to ETH/Polygon blockchain directly. Roadmap is really outdated, none of SEO milestones wasn't reached, because was not filled cap, even ridiculous 50$ SEO was really easy on that moment with stable money-flow (1500$ monthly) We was at TOP3 with such keywords: crypto exchange online instant cryptocurrency exchange and many other keywords on that keywords, that on screenshot we was at TOP30, so it was easy to be on top3 with (50-100)$ monthly budget on each keyword. Right now SEO is more difficult and more expensive. Without stable money-flow (from $10k monthly) no sense to start go to TOP again. P.S. My opinion, that focus on clean reputation from member with nickname holydarkness a little bit sharp, you don't think so? (I understand that percent of scams is around 50/50 in crypto) Hi, thanks for jumping and filling in. I am assuming you are... another dev of this project? Replying to your post script first, as I feel it's kinda right on point, I have to agree that the use of "clean reputation" would sounds a bit judgemental and has a tendency of negative tone. Although I have to counter-argue, just to be clear, that I raised the point because CryptorClub kind of stressing, borderline bragging, that the project has a clean reputation, while I think there is quite a difference between clean reputation and no reputation, given they didn't mention any worth-mentioning development since the project started, especially when this "reputation" itself was tainted with a bump in the past where you encourage a ponzi scheme. Dropping the ponzi matter for now to be ore focused on the matter at hand, a project, or someone, who barely has no development or something worth mentioning for years doesn't exactly translates as a clean reputation. To put into perspective, let's say someone invested certain amount of fund into a project, and the project has no development for three years, other than a casual "we'll launch an update soon" will it be true to claim that the project has a clean reputation? While it is also true that it is not necessarily translated as a "bad reputation", I think bragging that you're trustworthy just because you've been around for three years plus is not really well placed or necessary. Thus, "no reputation", not bad or good until proven otherwise. BUT, to move forward and giving benefit of doubts, I think it would better to drop the term "reputation" completely and focusing on the topic about the progress of the project, which leads us into the next part of your reply... You said that the roadmap on the website is outdated. Why doesn't it be updated? I thought --based on the impression I got from CryptorClub's previous post as well as the goals you state on the website and ANN thread-- one of your focus are on the website, I can only imagine how an interface and the information provided on the site should plays a major part on it. Can you please shows the progress achieved during the past years? It will effectively shows how clean... ehm, how advanced your project is. Last, just a small curiosity, assuming you're part of the team whose opinion matters to the progress of the project --at the point when I wrote this, I have no answer of your position, so I have to assume you're part of them-- and you are not in favor of CEX, then why trying to use Tokpie which leads to the trouble that pushes you to raise the accusation on the other thread? Hello. You have strong interest on this topic. Don't know why. Are you really interested to invest? Curiosity? Community interests? I'm not full-time part of team, but write here covering interests of Green team direction and CryptorClub account was muted on 30 day because of "incentive posts" on Bounty topic (it wasn't, because those topic collect addresses for airdrop). Anyway that was recognized as incentive and answer from CryptorClub, seems we got in New Year. Maybe needed best, experienced Bounty manager, to manage that thread. I think, that branch of clean reputation regarding ponzi was closed, because whole finance system is ponzi, no? I'll try to explain what means exactly under clean reputation. We not planning to make hurt or harm to other people In our task not set to make scam project We understand that: ANY money relationships - is Unfair ANY user of any coin (fiat or crypto) has less benefits than user, who print this money, or buy it earlier When written ponzi and write about all percentage and rules(mathematics, open source) of each transaction - is fair. When scheme is ponzi - and written, that is not or hidden - in not fair Is much fair, than to write Casino and user don't know source code (percentages, mathematics). In casino user lose in any case - casino wins. In ponzi user wins, in time when next user comes. user1 buys unit for 1.1 - (next user2 pays 1.2tokens and user1 gets this 1.2tokens) - (than user1 can rebuy next unit for 1.3 to get 1.4 from next one) this chain mathematically infinite, and even theoretically (because of newborn people) - and unfair. (AND IT HAS OPEN SOURCED CODE) For me is absolutely has similar principe as borrow money for % Borrow money for % - unfair (because nowhere to get %) World - Unfair (and it HASN'T source code, or its still not de-compiled, at least by our team) We are clean to understand this and retranslate it as is. No darkness here. User should understand this. Everyone should understand is! Additionally, ponzi was not successful at all. There was <100 transactions with sha256 greencoin (GRN). That has no value at that moment. Whole turnover was less than $0.0001 All GRN at that moment was swapped to GREEN by requests. One of users swapped his mined 0.5M+ GRNs onto 5M+ GREENs ($1k) and when we start load liqudity in GREEN, sold it. Story of another our loss as project, because this was money from our personal work, but not from other users investments. Work of developer is to fix mistakes, that he type before. We are going this way. Using possibilities and resources we have and trying do best. Our plan for all revenue (GREEN + GGREEN) that we have: - Reinvest into its promotion to grow it price and our community - Finance a lot of "Green" things that we post before (its about clean reputation also, we still has this plan) like promoting educational movies of Jacque Fresco - We start to think about it, when the free of liqudity cap will be $10M+ - Finance our team Regarding dropping development and updating roadmap on the site. Whole project(s) has four servers ( 0.9 Tb only text data, no images and no video) This project(s) was programmed using at least 7 computer languages (SOL, SQL, HTML, CSS, Unix, PHP, Javascript) human languages (pure Text English, different User Interfaces, voice negotiations, videos, social promotion (Bitcointalk, Telegram, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube)) SEO - search engine optimization, that was spent 50k in total to research and be on top for ~1+ year on a lot of specific targeted keywords. Greencoin.life has more than 10 Million unique visits for these three years (up to 40k+ unique visits daily) 100M+ pages Greencoin.online has turnover more than $10M and earn 0.5% fees on it. No serious fails. and all of these things was work of one man. Sorry, for not updated milestones, and still not created WhitePaper. After all of these things we got only one serious investor, that believe in us and part of GREEN tokens belongs to him. one investor and investment in liquidity (Means we not spent it). few others with amounts ~200$, that we tracked. We don't know about rest wallets, if they still active. And after 3.5 years project alive. Main reason, why not updated roadmap, because our time to update it not worth it. You may see, that GGREEN was launched already 13 days. GGREENs - extremely cheap. Faucet was launched 12 days (all needed to pay gas ~$0.01 to receive 100k tokens). And there is no a single human transaction for these two weeks, except ours. ZERO With whole work done. Result for GGREEN - 0 Roadmap is not core of our project as result, is just vector. Because a lot of decisions and priorities was modified. Whole site should be like a diamond and modified to WEB3, with brilliant English (that we haven't, its not our native language) and this is a lot of work. Updating roadmap is nothing, in my vision. SEO works and budgets should be recalculated from the scratch, but at most other things is still right, it reflects our concept. Migration path of coin was: from SHA256 to ETH ERC20 (standard) Now Polygon ERC20 (from May 2021) that is fully bridged at anytime between Ethereum and Polygon. About CEX. There is a single reason why we tried to work with Tokpie, is that they convinced, that they can list our token on CoinMarketCap, CoinGecko and Etherscan. (At least one of these things should be great for us). None of this, they not finalize. 750$, on that moment, is loss. 30k Green Tokens ($6.56 value on this moment) on their balance. We made a lot of mistakes, but at each time working to fix it. That's why our our reputation, minds, hearts and souls seems clean. Not? We will try to fix.
holydarkness, I spent a lot of my time to write this post. Hope its affect not only on you, but on whole Bitcointalk community. Our whole financial system with fiat, cryptos, economies, competitions and monopolies - is big collapsing and unfair thing. 80% of budget of each government spent on security from other governments. The single reason why we use money, because whole world playing this rules right now, and difficult to survive and grow up without them, when whole world depends on it. Works of Jacque Fresco is the trial to think out of the box and think about global community rules without money. Its important for Education. Its without other smart things(included in roadmap), that we can finance until build stable concept of new relationships. -- Hope its clear, Green Team |
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Just to be clear, I have seen a couple of Green Token transactions (10,000 and 20,000). In the agreement, I see $750 in ETH and 10,000 Green tokens.
Did you later on agree to just give them 30,000 Green tokens in total?
Since the accused are not responding to the accusation. I am tagging both accounts so that they come here and respond before I make final Judgement.
10 000 Green Tokens for each pair ETH, BTC, USDT = 30000 Green Tokens in total 20000 was needed for additional (BTC and USDT) pairs setup, because they start from one pair (ETH) and ask only 10000. Should be clear. Thank you for pay attention! |
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Ahh, I see now. So by "personal results", you're referring to the liquidity provided and funded by the project itself. And for daily volume, pardon the cluelessness, I am exre rarely use DEX and that was the first time I went to quickswap, so the cluelessness should be understandable. [1] As for development, the irony is you feeling you duplicating info and still failed to provide the exact information asked although the question is quite clear. If I have to be more specific, this is the point I wanted to know: On your GREEN ANN thread, you made these milestones below,   And three years after, an update of achieved milestones are on what the next images show. I am divided between if you had an outdated info on yout website, or... none of the initial achievement are actually achieved.   So please re-inform us, what achievement --aside from launching websites-- do you get from the past three and a half years to support your claim of clean reputation?
[1] On a completely different and unrelated topic, exploring quickswap lead me to a fake telegram group attempting a phising, please be warned, everyone.CryptorClub can't answer right now, so I will answer. The original group of QuickSwap in Telegram is https://t.me/QuickSwapDEXI ask to join Green Exchange group in telegram also. https://t.me/crytalkAfter researching uniswap I feel less sense to use CEXes in future. Liquidity can load any person at any time, and at anytime withdraw (with his revenue from each swap 0.3% that was done during this time), using transactions to smart contracts directly. Web user interface, that you see - is just interface. If tomorrow something happens with Uniswap/Quickswap domain names - you will have access to smart contract with another user interface or send commands to ETH/Polygon blockchain directly. Roadmap is really outdated, none of SEO milestones wasn't reached, because was not filled cap, even ridiculous 50$ SEO was really easy on that moment with stable money-flow (1500$ monthly) We was at TOP3 with such keywords: crypto exchange online instant cryptocurrency exchange and many other keywords on that keywords, that on screenshot we was at TOP30, so it was easy to be on top3 with (50-100)$ monthly budget on each keyword. Right now SEO is more difficult and more expensive. Without stable money-flow (from $10k monthly) no sense to start go to TOP again. P.S. My opinion, that focus on clean reputation from member with nickname holydarkness a little bit sharp, you don't think so? (I understand that percent of scams is around 50/50 in crypto) |
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i have exactly the same problem except that i'm running ubuntu in virtualbox and it's Electrum 3.0.2. I have tried a number of udev rules. Nothing worked. Electrum does NOT detect my nano s
I got same problem |
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 So i put bitcoins to my electrum wallet on a usb 2,5 years ago. I made an another topic on the matter earlier on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2130374.0But i recovered my wallet file and the seed is not wrong, and i have the password right. The transaction history is simply not showing, and it tells me i have 0mbtc which is not true. Can you tell me what exactly do i need to do? Yes, the green mark is connected, ive let it sit there for an hour and i still get no transactions. Do i need to connect to a different server or recover my private keys from the wallet file or something else? What do i do to access my coins now? I got the same situation with my wallet. I save a true seed from Electrum, but it not synchronize history. Are you restore your bitcoins? I can help you in this. |
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Hello forum mates. As I understand that 22 or 23 of August on the block #481824 we expect activation of SegWit after Locked-in of 1 of August. And, if I understand correctly, that we can get possible fork on this block. SegWit - original bitcoin core developers chain SegWit2x - forked chain from a closed group without bitcoin core developers Please mark me, if I wrong. Source: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@adsactly/segwit-locked-in-bitcoin-s-bigger-blocks-only-an-activation-awayAre the Electrum developers ready for this? Or we expect next fork only in November? Special thanks for Thomas Voegtlin and Electrum team and for everyone, who response on this thread. |
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