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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure

on: November 30, 2017, 02:20:06 PM

Quote from: likeroman on November 29, 2017, 03:31:02 AM Quote from: MarkX2 on November 29, 2017, 03:02:52 AM The truth about the company Envion AG the facts: 1. What you write is what your Director the founder of the company - you are lying!!! You wrote on your website: Entrepreneur, investor & media professional. Founder & CEO of energy-focused investment holding. Co-financed €300M solar company. In fact: Your Director Matthias Woestmann- the journalist you hired 1 month ago to work in linkedin.com - is simply Executive Director in Envion AG, He's not invetor , he is not affiliated with solar energy!!! https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthias-woestmann-b87922119/ Why you hide the founders of the company? You do not answer the question: who are the founders of the company? I will send all photos from your founders documents - to see all your lies!!!!! I sent you a document - investors should see that you lie!!! In this document it is evident that the company was organized less than a month ago - 5.10.2017 year. Your Director is only a nominal Director and founder of hide!!!! And you lie - that he is the founder of the company -- not very nice!!!!! 2. You started the company less than a month ago - 5.10.2017 year. You hired the whole team a month ago!!!! What kind of work long technology your container you say? You're lying again!!! 2.You have not answered-where is your mining??? Where exactly is mining farm? you can't tell because you don't have one! you cheat!!! You only have one airbrushed onto the container, which you carry for the video and have a video with a smoke blue)))) 3. Your website says: in 2015, So explain to me - how is that possible??? if you opened your super company has just 5.10.2017 year!!!! Once again you are all lying!!!!!!! 4. You are talking about a profit of 161% per year from your equipment - you are cheating investors!!!! With your container in the holes - can not how to profit by 161%.(considering the fact that you still need to take the profit) What you want to say that what you showed container holes in them with a few rows of video cards will be able to bring a profit? Yes, it's all a hoax!!!!!!! And you know that's not true!!!! You have no any technology for mining. 5. You do not call the compute capacity of your container : how many PH/s MH/s? I will tell you - in order for investors have not seen this! 7. You have not performed any testing of the container - you don't have anything other than a container with holes from sewer pipes and a couple of fans!!! Yet you don't answer me to my questions - you will be considered a fraud perpetrated in Switzerland !!!! My result, You don't have: 1. Mining farm, there is only 1 container with holes. You do not have the technology, but what you showed is just ridiculous!!!!! 3. You hide especially of the founder, hired journalist Executive Director 4. You hired all the people a month ago - you do not have any commands in mining 5. You started a company in Zug Switzerland - to give the project importance in the eyes of investors!!! 6. You just want to collect money and all!!!! I work for honesty! And will not allow me to delete the Telegram for the fact that you can't not answer one my question!!! INVESTORS - BE CAREFUL . THIS COMPANY HAS NOTHING TO MINING!!! STOP FOOLING PEOPLE WITH YOUR PROJECT !! FOR DEFRAUDING INVESTORS IN SWITZERLAND - MANY YEARS IN PRISON!!!!! I dont think so, that he is a "noname" noob. First of All I give you guys to understand, everything what they registered its a legal company with 150K Swiss Frank! But the ICO is just for only the "project" that even tells this Mr. Woestmann in them self maded youtube interview Viedeos. All necessary infos from the public register: Neueste SHAB-Meldungen: envion AG SHAB 201/2017 - 17.10.2017 Kategorien: Neueintragung, Änderung bei Personen Publikationsnummer: 3814143, Handelsregister-Amt Zug (170) envion AG(envion SA) (envion Ltd.), in Baar, CHE-373.899.812, Zugerstrasse 72, 6340 Baar, Aktiengesellschaft (Neueintragung). Statutendatum: 05.10.2017. Zweck: Erbringung von Infrastrukturdienstleistungen für Kryptowährungen und Blockchain-Anwendungen sowie Entwicklung von Software zum globalen Betrieb von Datenzentren; vollständige Zweckumschreibung gemäss Statuten. Aktienkapital: CHF 150'000.00. Liberierung Aktienkapital: CHF 150'000.00. Aktien: 150'000 Namenaktien zu CHF 1.00. Die Gründungsversammlung hat mit Beschluss vom 05.10.2017 eine genehmigte Kapitalerhöhung gemäss näherer Umschreibung in den Statuten eingeführt. Publikationsorgan: SHAB. Die Mitteilungen an die Aktionäre erfolgen per Brief, E-Mail oder Telefax an die im Aktienbuch verzeichneten Adressen. Mit Erklärung vom 05.10.2017 wurde auf die eingeschränkte Revision verzichtet. Eingetragene Personen: Wöstmann, Matthias, deutscher Staatsangehöriger, in Berlin (DE), Präsident des Verwaltungsrates, mit Kollektivunterschrift zu zweien; Stäger, Cyrill Alexander, von Glarus Süd, in Zug, Mitglied des Verwaltungsrates, mit Einzelunterschrift -What I find weird, that Mr. Cyrill Alexander is connected with the company on the same Building in "Zugerstrasse 72" in the City of Zug, with his company "Trifft Management & Consulting GmbH" the main purpose of this company is to create a founding of new enterprises and doing swiss taxes. -Many Questions they never really honestly answer, unfortunately to compare with Julian Hosp from TenX they behalfe them self like Scammers. I would like to go make a claim on the swiss federal Police and the FINMA Office today. Is there also anyone who support this step? If here any swiss ICO Investors, Envion have a lot of misleading Informations, this red flags must be clarified, with politeness meaning!!! And yes there is a hate from me to your ICO , becauze you not answer still, that you dont accept swiss ICO Investors! (not the answer that you protect me! The answer, whitch difficulties you must have to not accept swiss citizien but for example german citizien??! The answer shoult be easy! If there is any not qualified Person (like a Beginner) who participate in the ICO, and go against you infront the court, your 150K in the AG (limited) are endangered!! And you lie here many peoples with a children Storry. So stop kidding and be honest, or see end of this Week a Mail to the FINMA and a Display on the swiss Police! I think lets called "RIP DEAL" New E-Mail, ICO postponed. Advantages for token holders: ► Swiss users can take part in the ICO without restriction ► EVN tokens should be tradable at official and licensed US exchanges ► Banks and other financial institutions can more easily create cooperation models with envion and increase token holders profits ► envion lays the foundation for top-level cooperations ► EVN token on the way to be the best regulated security token so far broader market – higher value potential ► Even better ROI due to Third-Party Operation business Envion is sure that the inconvenience of waiting a few days to invest will outweigh the great positive factors. To make sure our trusted ICO community does not get overshadowed by these big players, we will not involve them in the ICO, but instead have them participate later to follow through on our approach of decentralization by widest possible participation. Also, production and deployment of MMUs from the ICO will come first, before any others. So now Im statisfaited with this Project! That was the smart step u need to have Investors what "HOLD" your Tokens Rip Deal go under the Shower Im All in here!! (If u let me, becauze of my critical Announcements Im still blocked on Telegram)

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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure

on: November 29, 2017, 03:31:02 AM

Quote from: MarkX2 on November 29, 2017, 03:02:52 AM The truth about the company Envion AG the facts: 1. What you write is what your Director the founder of the company - you are lying!!! You wrote on your website: Entrepreneur, investor & media professional. Founder & CEO of energy-focused investment holding. Co-financed €300M solar company. In fact: Your Director Matthias Woestmann- the journalist you hired 1 month ago to work in linkedin.com - is simply Executive Director in Envion AG, He's not invetor , he is not affiliated with solar energy!!! https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthias-woestmann-b87922119/ Why you hide the founders of the company? You do not answer the question: who are the founders of the company? I will send all photos from your founders documents - to see all your lies!!!!! I sent you a document - investors should see that you lie!!! In this document it is evident that the company was organized less than a month ago - 5.10.2017 year. Your Director is only a nominal Director and founder of hide!!!! And you lie - that he is the founder of the company -- not very nice!!!!! 2. You started the company less than a month ago - 5.10.2017 year. You hired the whole team a month ago!!!! What kind of work long technology your container you say? You're lying again!!! 2.You have not answered-where is your mining??? Where exactly is mining farm? you can't tell because you don't have one! you cheat!!! You only have one airbrushed onto the container, which you carry for the video and have a video with a smoke blue)))) 3. Your website says: in 2015, So explain to me - how is that possible??? if you opened your super company has just 5.10.2017 year!!!! Once again you are all lying!!!!!!! 4. You are talking about a profit of 161% per year from your equipment - you are cheating investors!!!! With your container in the holes - can not how to profit by 161%.(considering the fact that you still need to take the profit) What you want to say that what you showed container holes in them with a few rows of video cards will be able to bring a profit? Yes, it's all a hoax!!!!!!! And you know that's not true!!!! You have no any technology for mining. 5. You do not call the compute capacity of your container : how many PH/s MH/s? I will tell you - in order for investors have not seen this! 7. You have not performed any testing of the container - you don't have anything other than a container with holes from sewer pipes and a couple of fans!!! Yet you don't answer me to my questions - you will be considered a fraud perpetrated in Switzerland !!!! My result, You don't have: 1. Mining farm, there is only 1 container with holes. You do not have the technology, but what you showed is just ridiculous!!!!! 3. You hide especially of the founder, hired journalist Executive Director 4. You hired all the people a month ago - you do not have any commands in mining 5. You started a company in Zug Switzerland - to give the project importance in the eyes of investors!!! 6. You just want to collect money and all!!!! I work for honesty! And will not allow me to delete the Telegram for the fact that you can't not answer one my question!!! INVESTORS - BE CAREFUL . THIS COMPANY HAS NOTHING TO MINING!!! STOP FOOLING PEOPLE WITH YOUR PROJECT !! FOR DEFRAUDING INVESTORS IN SWITZERLAND - MANY YEARS IN PRISON!!!!! I dont think so, that he is a "noname" noob. First of All I give you guys to understand, everything what they registered its a legal company with 150K Swiss Frank! But the ICO is just for only the "project" that even tells this Mr. Woestmann in them self maded youtube interview Viedeos. All necessary infos from the public register: Neueste SHAB-Meldungen: envion AG SHAB 201/2017 - 17.10.2017 Kategorien: Neueintragung, Änderung bei Personen Publikationsnummer: 3814143, Handelsregister-Amt Zug (170) envion AG(envion SA) (envion Ltd.), in Baar, CHE-373.899.812, Zugerstrasse 72, 6340 Baar, Aktiengesellschaft (Neueintragung). Statutendatum: 05.10.2017. Zweck: Erbringung von Infrastrukturdienstleistungen für Kryptowährungen und Blockchain-Anwendungen sowie Entwicklung von Software zum globalen Betrieb von Datenzentren; vollständige Zweckumschreibung gemäss Statuten. Aktienkapital: CHF 150'000.00. Liberierung Aktienkapital: CHF 150'000.00. Aktien: 150'000 Namenaktien zu CHF 1.00. Die Gründungsversammlung hat mit Beschluss vom 05.10.2017 eine genehmigte Kapitalerhöhung gemäss näherer Umschreibung in den Statuten eingeführt. Publikationsorgan: SHAB. Die Mitteilungen an die Aktionäre erfolgen per Brief, E-Mail oder Telefax an die im Aktienbuch verzeichneten Adressen. Mit Erklärung vom 05.10.2017 wurde auf die eingeschränkte Revision verzichtet. Eingetragene Personen: Wöstmann, Matthias, deutscher Staatsangehöriger, in Berlin (DE), Präsident des Verwaltungsrates, mit Kollektivunterschrift zu zweien; Stäger, Cyrill Alexander, von Glarus Süd, in Zug, Mitglied des Verwaltungsrates, mit Einzelunterschrift -What I find weird, that Mr. Cyrill Alexander is connected with the company on the same Building in "Zugerstrasse 72" in the City of Zug, with his company "Trifft Management & Consulting GmbH" the main purpose of this company is to create a founding of new enterprises and doing swiss taxes. -Many Questions they never really honestly answer, unfortunately to compare with Julian Hosp from TenX they behalfe them self like Scammers. I would like to go make a claim on the swiss federal Police and the FINMA Office today. Is there also anyone who support this step? If here any swiss ICO Investors, Envion have a lot of misleading Informations, this red flags must be clarified, with politeness meaning!!! And yes there is a hate from me to your ICO , becauze you not answer still, that you dont accept swiss ICO Investors! (not the answer that you protect me! The answer, whitch difficulties you must have to not accept swiss citizien but for example german citizien??! The answer shoult be easy! If there is any not qualified Person (like a Beginner) who participate in the ICO, and go against you infront the court, your 150K in the AG (limited) are endangered!! And you lie here many peoples with a children Storry. So stop kidding and be honest, or see end of this Week a Mail to the FINMA and a Display on the swiss Police! I think lets called "RIP DEAL"

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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure

on: November 28, 2017, 09:43:07 AM

Quote from: envion on November 28, 2017, 08:54:01 AM Quote from: likeroman on November 28, 2017, 07:14:44 AM Quote from: cybercash on November 28, 2017, 05:20:49 AM Quote from: mrelich on November 28, 2017, 12:07:54 AM Hi,i cannot understand why US and Swiss citizens cant buy the token-if i understand it right,the token can be traded on exchanges and p2p networks,so US and Swiss (and others) can buy it anonymously from January.Is that right?If yes,I doesnt make any sense to me all these restrictions and document scans.. am I missing some point? Will the EVN trading be somehow regulated since January? Please explain First the ENVION Token is a security token. The rules are made by the US and Swiss financial authority and Envion is happy to comply. If you try to purchase during the ICO and you are a US/Swiss national and NOT an accredited investor, your purchase will be voided, your tokens destroyed, and your money refunded. Envion act like a company, so they have to obey rules. So if you are an accredited investor, there is no problem to buy the token. But if you are not, you can buy the token when it hits exchanges. To be honest guys! I think you want kidding swiss Citizien. If I ask that Question you start kick me out of Telegramm Channel! There is not any complain with the FINMA Regulation to join an ICO. Its like to join in a IPO thats the same Regulation! You just dont want have to have issues with the swiss taxes! And: Just that u know Envion Team, sunny decree is a friend from me in the youtube and he will soon make a Video about Envion. I asked him to do it. So that reason to alow just qualified Investors from 500k! Its a big big unfair step from your guys! I will call FINMA as well to get 100% sure if this rule its nessesary for swiss small investors! I wanted first join this ICO but if u ask them critical Questions or call them they are rude motherfuckkers. Maby Scammers. Think that Mr. Woestmann was a Moderator in the Televion. I have the feeling that you have a very professional Movie Equipment and create maby just a big Show. Like the Bus in China who drive over the Traffic jam. Mhh.. I think u not honest. But soon all Peoples can watch it on Youtube, depense what u gonna answer here! And I help your brain a little bit, I was calling to Finma and there was not anyone who told me that I need be qualified Investor for the ICO.!!!! You guys can ask by your self the right person behind Finma! Tobias Lux Tel. +41 (0)31 327 91 71 tobias.lux@finma.ch First of all you were banned from the chat for your aggressive attitude, which began with the profanity in your first post. We love hard questions, but bad attitudes are not accepted and many group remembers called for you to be removed. Now let's talk about compliance with financial regulations. By issuing a security token that is compliant with Finma and SEC regulations, we are protecting your investment and the future of envion. Finma and other financial regulators around the world are taking a closer look at ICOs. New ICOs and even previous ICOs are being reviewed for compliance with securities regulations. The EU has just indicated that they will be cracking down on ICOs for violations regardless of whether or not they have called their token a security or not. Our legal team works closely with Finma and they have indicated that a similar review is already underway. Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/according-to-key-european-regulator-icos-could-be-derivative-activities It's unfortunate if these regulations prevent some people from participating in the ICO. Purchasing tokens on secondary exchanges after the ICO is something everyone can do without restriction. Furthermore, because envion will be releasing prospectuses and working to have our EVN tokens traded on regulated exchanges (not just token exchanges), participation will be open to an even larger pool of investors in the near future. The irony of accusing envion of being a scam by following government regulations has not gone unnoticed. I expect an answer. But you cant be a swiss "Stachelschwein" and be depressed on hard agressiv questions / confrontations. Great Youtube Promotors take any succsessfully ICO on the Eggs and ask very critical Questions. Its always better to be open minded than block someone who give to understand thats not all 100% match in his opinion. That just shows you are to quick annoyed about this all critical Questions or u just cant understand the Market Situation. There was not just your ICO who is with many Questions. Peoples from everywhere invest here money. Im sure you can by your own invest your private money like 150Mio Dollars in this Project if I see who u are. And 500 CHF or 5000 CHF are nothing for you. But there are many democratic buyers who invest important part of them money. I for example just see the sence to buy me in a ico pre-sale than after in the exchange. So u gove me a half statisfated answer: You telling me becauze the future ICO Regulation, (could be) you protect me as a swiss investor if Im a kind of have a permission to invest in this type of investment. But the reason u tell its the protection for me! But lets talk honestly, its more the protection for you becauze I can invest as swiss citizien in any ICO, I will not have any problems with the FINMA or Law. The only one who could have further Problems, is the Company who launch the ICO. So thats why I still not understand why Peoples from Switzerland cant just send you in the ICO Ethereum in the smart Contract and get their Tokens? The FINMA told me you cpuld have Problems with the regulation. So from whitch Problems you want to Protect your self? Make me an understandable Situation if you sell me the Tokens when I pay with Crypto? Is it the Declaration in my Swiss Tax or what??

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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure

on: November 28, 2017, 07:14:44 AM

Quote from: cybercash on November 28, 2017, 05:20:49 AM Quote from: mrelich on November 28, 2017, 12:07:54 AM Hi,i cannot understand why US and Swiss citizens cant buy the token-if i understand it right,the token can be traded on exchanges and p2p networks,so US and Swiss (and others) can buy it anonymously from January.Is that right?If yes,I doesnt make any sense to me all these restrictions and document scans.. am I missing some point? Will the EVN trading be somehow regulated since January? Please explain First the ENVION Token is a security token. The rules are made by the US and Swiss financial authority and Envion is happy to comply. If you try to purchase during the ICO and you are a US/Swiss national and NOT an accredited investor, your purchase will be voided, your tokens destroyed, and your money refunded. Envion act like a company, so they have to obey rules. So if you are an accredited investor, there is no problem to buy the token. But if you are not, you can buy the token when it hits exchanges. To be honest guys! I think you want kidding swiss Citizien. If I ask that Question you start kick me out of Telegramm Channel! There is not any complain with the FINMA Regulation to join an ICO. Its like to join in a IPO thats the same Regulation! You just dont want have to have issues with the swiss taxes! And: Just that u know Envion Team, sunny decree is a friend from me in the youtube and he will soon make a Video about Envion. I asked him to do it. So that reason to alow just qualified Investors from 500k! Its a big big unfair step from your guys! I will call FINMA as well to get 100% sure if this rule its nessesary for swiss small investors! I wanted first join this ICO but if u ask them critical Questions or call them they are rude motherfuckkers. Maby Scammers. Think that Mr. Woestmann was a Moderator in the Televion. I have the feeling that you have a very professional Movie Equipment and create maby just a big Show. Like the Bus in China who drive over the Traffic jam. Mhh.. I think u not honest. But soon all Peoples can watch it on Youtube, depense what u gonna answer here! And I help your brain a little bit, I was calling to Finma and there was not anyone who told me that I need be qualified Investor for the ICO.!!!! You guys can ask by your self the right person behind Finma! Tobias Lux Tel. +41 (0)31 327 91 71 tobias.lux@finma.ch

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