If you go ViaBTC TX Accelerator route, at the top of the hour, every hour, 100 free lots open up. My suggestion for you is this. Enter your TX ID and the captcha ahead of time. As soon as your phone or computer time hits the hour, press enter. It took me a few tries yesterday, but i got it at 5PM last night. My 36sat/B transaction last night was approved within 2 hours.

Yes sorry. That was kind of my understanding, just a poor way of wording it. I appreciate the insight into it. I sincerely hope its something I wont ever have to do in the future, but i feel it's worth learning should you be in a situation where miner fee's are surging and you sent below the expected rate as many are doing right now on the forums it seems.

What phone are you running on?

Yup. I just reviewed their blockchain info screen and have been following along closely. I cannot thank you enough for all of your help today. Really put my mind at ease knowing that there were a few solutions that didnt revolve around me waiting until the transaction fell off the books(3days to weeks) or spending copious amounts of money on something that could have been avoided in the first place.

As far as my conclusion with the CPFP, am I close to what really happens and how to accomplish it? If so, god forbid this happens again, at least I'll understand how to use the program more effectively in my favor.

After a long day... Acceleration Succeeded!  I sincerely hope it gets accelerated and not held back because of my double spend.

I will need to get back to you this evening when i get home. I will have an answer for you shortly in about 4hrs or so when i can check.
So what I am starting to understand.... A change is address is the left over portion from a transaction that is left in your wallet. To do a CPFP, you use this change address to send the transaction again to the same output, but with a much higher fee, thus resulting in a miner working to get both portions of the miners fee.

If thats what it is. Something just clicked real nice for me.

However, based on your response, why would the higher output 1KgJCaYzsx8bShsUeh7JvDVfjucg5davh(.164) be the change address that was retained back in my wallet and not 13NzXoKsDh7CY3K5CJ7Uvqf1PBBAYd3Ko4(0.00325700), when the objective is to send out the higher output to the address? I believe the helix address is 1KgJCaYzsx8bShsUeh7JvDVfjucg5davh.

Or do i have this ass backwards? Would i see either of these addresses in my wallet to confirm?

When i get home, i may take back everything posted here... but for some, this could be a solid learning tool to bring somebody who knows nothing, to know a little something.

From the guide you posted... I "should" have a change address in which to use.

Shit. Well i messaged macbook-air, so I will await the reply from him. I am consistently entering the BTC address on viaBTC as we speak. Is there no way to just cut the cord on the transaction? I read somewhere there is a command line that retores your wallet and reflects only confirmed transactions, which would mean I'd have my get out of jail free card. i believe it to be "-zapwallettxes command", however because nobody is talking about this as a solution, it may not be an option anymore if even at all.

And am I correct in my assumption that since I am not the owner of the destination address, I cannot do a CPFP transaction? That's the answer i've been doing most of my research in right now, trying to determine if if this will work. I did attempt it an hour ago while at home, however it gave me an issue with the destination address... I likely messed something up, but its error code coincides with what ive read about having to be the owner of the recipient address.


I'm debating just paying viaBTC the .01 fee to get the transaction processed... The reason its an issue is 1) i hate having unresolved issues that i cannot immediatly solve and 2) Helix addresses are only good for 7 days. I can reasonably assume ill have my answer as to whether or not this transaction proceeds within that timeframe, but then we get back to point 1. lol.

So my next question to you is this... Because i messed up the fee so badly and its so low, is it worth even pursuing and accelerating, or hoping the transaction "goes away" and then starting over with a higher fee? I really want to just start over and do this the right way knowing what I know now. lol.

Also. Thank you so much for your information thus far. I've learned more than I thought I was going to learn today about BTC.

Here is the original transaction ID that shows active on the new version of Electrum that i downloaded....

d07594e1ba5308a9ec5fbb865fd317aee248a5434afdaf1ae36a4e6971595263

So i actually did do a double spend in my case. When i woke up, this transaction above was missing, so i decided to resend to Helix again to another address. So i think my choices are at this point, play with ViaBTC and hopefully i can get this thing worked, message Macbook-air, or just wait until it drops off in 72hours? That sound about right in my case?


I don't think i can CPFP due to me sending to Helix. If i am wrong, please let me know.

The transaction that i posted in the initial post no longer shows in Electrum. SO my initial hypothesis was right. Electrum messed up, made my initial transaction dissapear(the one in this post), so then i resent based on funds that had already been sent. Boom.

EDIT:  Went home for lunch and updated Electrum to newest version. low and behold, the previous transaction popped up and the new one is missing. I guess this is exactly what I want.... However Low fee popped up which i figured was the case. I wont go around asking how to fix this as I know the solution is to pretty much wait until it comes back to me, or if i figure out CPFP.

There's your issue and the issue i ran into. Your sat/byte is too low. You need to be around 300sat/byte for the transaction.

Well right below the "Oops, Your transaction was found" it states the reason was due to it being a double transaction which coincides with why Helix never got the new transfer. Again, I am very much a noob when it comes to the intricacies of this program.

Reason for using the outdated version is that I'm on TAILS and haven't had time to update the system yet. My fault, i know. I will try accessing my wallet via a windows version and see what we have in a bit. I did read that the new versions have a much better dynamic fee feature.

I guess my next followup question for you is this. Let's assume I get my wallet going on the new version of Electrum in Windows. Everything presumably works fine. Assuming my full balance is there. When logically can i recast a new transaction to Helix? This would have been the third transaction in 24hours that I have attempted to get to the destination. I do see some steps that revolve around double spending and then jacking the fee up way high in an attempt to get the blockchain to put the new transaction above the old one, however i dont know if that solution applies in my case.

Hey guys-

So i have been using and transfering bitcoin for some time now and this is the first issue I've had.

Last night i went to transfer funds that were in my wallet. I am using Electrium 2.5.40 for those interested. It's destination was HELIX Grams. I send everything, set the Helix destination, and then get everything in motion. Fees were set to .00013BTC/kb. That was a manual set, not a dynamic. Grams recognized the amount that i was looking to transfer and then i let it sit over night. I came back in the morning and the funds never made it to the destination account. I went to check the transaction ID in Electrum and the send transaction was missing, so i couldnt even pull an ID if i tried for you guys. The original balance in my wallet remained the same with no coins missing, so no confirmations were made yet on the wallet end however since the transaction is missing, there is no way to confirm anything. The Helix on this transaction still shows the balance it was supposed to receive, however no confirmations.

So being me... i thought maybe my fees were too low and i was denied from the blockchain. I resent the same amount of BTC again to HELIX with a higher fee, being .0009(manual set), however it never made it to Helix. Transaction ID for this new one is 1bfbfa9308a8978473b3e84826f1c49a6fc91af3a30a29583e205a1dc12f9aab.

When you put that in blockchain, i get issues with double spending and it doesnt look like shes gonna go through... Doesnt even say the transaction is registered.

So right now Electrum shows an unconfirmed withdrawal tied to the aforementioned TX ID, however that ID when you search for it, is tied to nothing...

Is there a way to somehow find my previous transaction ID that Helix recognized and then "import" it back into Electrum? Maybe Helix has access to that using the blockchain? I can find the blockchain for that transaction just becuase I have multiple in and out addresses, so its not like it doesnt exist... But its like Electrum forgot about that transaction, reported my wallet as having the full balance of funds, but in reality, it doesnt which is giving issue to next transaction.