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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: September 28, 2021, 05:39:05 PM
Right now, it seems my thinking is unmistakable, the funds have been spent on partying by the team, there is nothing left. It's funny to see this project like starting all over again.
that's what im thinking about. maybe they were still storing some of the funds or they have sold it a few years ago.

The money is long gone. I converted EON to BTC when their "exchange" first launched two years or so ago and could never get it out. Constant excuses about broken software, the lies never ended. I successfully "submitted" the withdraw several times -- the reality was their exchange never had the liquidity available to execute my withdraw.

Russian police say Ziminie was "owned" and passed around like property through Russian Bratvas, and the BTC/money was laundered for the crime syndicates and gone long ago, there's very likely nothing to get back.

Which is a different story from punishment and prison time...
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: For the non-programmers out there... on: September 23, 2021, 06:06:06 PM
This project was set up from the beginning to launder money for Russian syndicates. Our charges aren't that they stole from just us -- it's that they defrauded every investor from the ICO on.  The failure to refute this is itself an admission of guilt; Exscudo's founder is both a coward afraid to answer to a woman and hoping against hope that the member of our group who specializes in asset recovery won't file.

UPDATE -- here's the irony: using my illegally obtained personal data to file a suit is itself an admission of guilt. It's an interesting catch-22 for these criminals. We'll see if they're arrogant enough to think they can get away with that violation too.

Unfortunately the recovery specialist on our team won't be filing. No one else speaks or reads/writes Russian. Of the various Russian agencies, one police force is aware of the 100+ million dollars in today's value laundered, is irritated with Zimine's arrogance, and has indicated they'll follow up when we can get our act together. So that fateful knock, not just for Zimine but everyone there (include Mr. R.Mosen, likely @exscudo here), will eventually come, cuffs in hand...

Beware the "rebranding". Their own exchange lists 7-day trading volume for the new coin as $122 dollars. It's worthless and on the road to zero.

Be safe everyone :-)
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / For the non-programmers out there... on: May 04, 2021, 04:50:12 AM
This project was set up from the beginning to launder money for Russian syndicates. Our charges aren't that they stole from just us -- it's that they defrauded every investor from the ICO on.  The failure to refute this is itself an admission of guilt; Exscudo's founder is both a coward afraid to answer to a woman and hoping against hope that the member of our group who specializes in asset recovery won't file.

Regardless, I've been getting a lot of messages from non-programmers along the lines of "finally, aren't they're doing something real? Maybe it's not a scam?". For a company of "100 people" to take four years to do nothing other than launder a whole lot of the ICO money -- that, they've done a lot of -- this "project" is a bad joke. They're entirely incompetent.

An analogy: Can you, whomever is reading this, build an IKEA desk from their crap directions in less then four years? I'm guessing so. If not you can pay someone a couple pounds to do it for you. Similarly, blockchains, exchanges, they're all well-understood technology for any competent programmer. Personally, I could launch a closed-source JAVA-language "NION" chain in about 30 minutes. About half a day for an exchange, another day to integrate the previously launched "NION" coin into said exchange and make some pretty graphics. And I'm just a single retired chick.


Anyone actually paying attention: Exscudo's failure to reveal their Data Controller upon request (three posts above) is itself an indisputable crime  -- both having a public data controller and disclosure of that person's real name/contact information is required in the EU. That person is personally and financially responsible for violating data control procedures. Failing to abide by the GDPR while committing fraud makes the GDPR charges criminal -- this in addition to (separate) criminal charges of overall fraud.

Hopefully our partner who initiated the charges will be well enough within the next month... ...best wishes in recovery M.T.!

If Exscudo were legitimate, with the amount of BTC they raised (ostensibly meaning they should still have hundreds of millions of pounds in BTC left to litigate) they'd file a defamation suit against me and our group. But they haven't, and they won't.

Because any such suit would require them to prove they didn't launder money from the ICO, thus disclosing where the ICO money went and, additionally, why they chose to defraud our group. The latter of which is wholly indefensible -- once disclosed publicly you'd be surprised at the arrogant, circular logic Exscudo used to steal. After years of excuses why "successfully submitted" withdraws never sent any BTC back, they wrote broken 2FA code, immediately admitted in writing it didn't work, then claimed a long history of it working (no, that doesn't make sense, new code that's broken can't have a long history of working) and somehow blamed us for their 2FA code not working. Tired of their lies contact information for their personally liable data controller was politely requested, as a response Exscudo blocked our account/login. It's utterly ridiculous, entirely indefensible.

So, @exscudo, you violated the law to acquire my protected data. Changing the terms of consent is another indisputable crime, made criminal by holding our mining groups' funds.  You have my home address. Use it to file suit and prove me wrong.

UPDATE -- here's the irony: using my illegally obtained personal data to file a suit is itself an admission of guilt. It's an interesting catch-22 for these criminals. We'll see if they're arrogant enough to think they can get away with that violation too.

4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: April 19, 2021, 09:49:35 PM

Your information is not accurate. When your messages were sent Andrew was in our Moscow office. They say that when a person misinterprets facts in one area, they equally misinterpret information in others.

@Exscudo, don't deflect. You stole from me and our group of crypto enthusiasts. You've lied constantly and over a period of years. Many and varied excuses were put forth as to why you can't return our investment. The blockchain, unlike Exscudo, doesn't lie (you did take our investment), nor do the video captures of your non-functioning site or all the emails with saved headers and SMTP logs of your lies about faulty software being the reason you can't return funds.

The investigator, who will testify under oath, said they spoke with him (Zimine) in Russia (which is what the original post said), asked to clarify in English it's Zimine is in "Lithuania from 2013 to today". Are you now denying the police have spoken to Zimine? Or that Russian police already have a lot to say about Exscudo and Zimine personally? Are you calling them liars now too?

If you've done nothing wrong, why is Zimine afraid to accept my LinkedIn "connect" and discuss settlement? I'm sure you have some nonsensical reason, but the real one is: Every lie is a declaration against penal interest (meaning it'll be used against him criminally, then civilly), Zimine knows this and thus won't speak to anyone Exscudo defrauded.

Why is "Ivan" bouncing people from Discord who ask why Exscudo is doing nothing to resolve returning funds? It shows consciousness of guilt. It's a valid question: Why are you doing nothing to return funds? Other peoples' money isn't your personal piggy bank.

Why are you deleting notices of fraud from your Reddit channel? Every attempt to hide public notices is another display of your consciousness of guilt.

HOW ABOUT YOU ADDRESS YOUR DISHONESTY INSTEAD OF DEFLECTING? START WITH WHO IS YOUR GDPR OFFICIAL AND FINANCIAL CONTROLLER, THE ONE INTERVIEWED BY ESTONIAN AUTHORITIES FOR FIN.SERVICES LICENSE FVT000187?

For heaven's sake, if you're claiming to be an active exchange, why are there zero economic activities filed, ever? Why were you claiming to have to behave like an authorized exchange before September 30, 2020? See email from "jira" in your system, April 9, 2020.


https://mtr.mkm.ee/juriidiline_isik/195707?majandustegevusteated_staatus=teated_koik&backurl=%2Fjuriidiline_isik


Off-topic and irrelevant, but the member of our group spearheading the charges has been unavailable, hence the delays.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: April 16, 2021, 06:05:52 PM
1 small marketing attempt to cover the legal aspect in case of investigation.


I'm bummed if they're going to raise money from unwitting investors to waste on defending themselves. Because this was fraud from the start, we can (and will) file to bankrupt Zimine personally, so there is hopefully some recourse...

Heard today Zimine is in Latvia and either the police or one of our investigators contacted him and told him to reach out, but he hasn't.

I sent a LinkedIN "connect" to Zimine offering to discuss settlement, but of course nothing. @Exscudo, better to settle with us, roll the company down and refund what's left than face charges on multiple fronts. I'm far nicer than police/courts/lawyers.

What a mess.

Crypto has brought out the worst people and the worst in people.

6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: April 11, 2021, 06:22:10 PM
Hi still have my token on old exchange , is it possible to retrieve ? The portal where I could previously  logged in was gone for two years now . I can still remember my log in information. So hopefully it is still available.

The old tokens are worthless, in my case I converted them to BTC a couple years ago on their "exchange" and can't get the majority of BTC out (they were out of ICO funds back then too, with a ton of excuses as to why it couldn't be returned) so if you had them there they're probably lost :-(

I passed Excudo's KYC (and have the screenshots to prove it, they could literally come to my house and hand back my investment), am easy to find -- I don't hide anonymously or troll people anonymously -- I still couldn't get our funds out. I can only assume that, insolvent, they're collecting KYC information to sell on the black market. Be careful and best of luck if you try!









7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: April 08, 2021, 05:30:44 PM
Can you give me a clue about who is timor schwartz?  is that guy still a part of this garbage project's team?
It will be very interesting to know more about that.

I have doubts it's a real name, but it was the one used to lie, constantly and repeatedly, about why they couldn't return my funds.

Once the GDPR complaint is filed every lie "Timor" wrote to me will be public record.  If you're an EU resident you can sign in on the complaint and seek restitution/damages.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: April 08, 2021, 01:43:14 PM

While it's taking time during Covid-19, our group of miners/crypto HODLers have begun the process of criminal fraud charges against Timor Schwartz personally -- in addition to naming him as the personally responsible GDPR controller since he's the one attempting to collect passport/IDs and refusing to name the controller. The data controller is, by law, financially responsible for GDPR violations and their identity must be disclosed upon request. We've requested charges against the entire team, past and present. These are serious crimes, thus we're requesting serious incarceration time.

 We'll eventually have contact information for all EU residents to join the GDPR complaint. Anyone anywhere in the world can file into the criminal complaint.

Until then, anyone that can withdraw funds should do so immediately. If you're an EU resident and they didn't collect KYC information when you deposited to the project, don't let them bully you into divulging personal information with their threats of holding your funds against your will -- it's illegal, and these aren't the type of people you want to give copies of your identification documents to. Instead, reach out and let me/us know the value of BTC you lost, and the TXes of deposits.

Look at Annabelle75's message history. She's coming onto Okex with the same absurd complaints and threats 🤣

History proved I was correct: OKEx had some serious structural issues -- as evidenced by the multisig withdraw fiasco which was after the problems I encountered and addressed -- and I was also correct about the ethics of their founder, who was the one detained in regards to a ponzi scheme. This is after a previous arrest for fraud. They're also misleading in their company structure, reporting said founder isn't involved, yet he holds one of the cold wallet multisig keys. Regardless, OKEx's current executives personally instructed their team to fix their system errors and I was able to withdraw all funds: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240611.msg56737625#msg56737625  So good on them.


I mention the OKEx fiasco in the very unrealistic hope we can all stay on topic: History already documents I am correct about Exscudo, crimes have occurred and are indisputable facts -- at the very least, they're trying to collect GDPR information after changing the data terms without consent, they have refused to obey the GDPR disclosure law, they have fraudulently held my and others' funds, they have admitted in writing to generating faulty code and using that as an excuse to commit crimes.

So let's all try and stay on-topic here; facts that can be proven are useful, if anyone has any (failed attempts to withdraw, how much you invested and lost), again, feel free to reach out.




9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is OKEX a good exchange? on: April 08, 2021, 12:41:41 PM
I had a long-running error with the UK android app -- it had stopped working entirely, so I couldn't log in.

Hundreds of messages to support only returned mostly canned text -- making me think many of their support "people" are poorly coded AI bots -- and infuriating circular answers. Dozens of requests to escalate to someone in authority only returned canned answers. I eventually wrote directly to upper management, to my surprise they responded and my account was quickly reset and I was able to use the web interface to withdraw.

Of course this resolved the day before the multisig drama, so I waited that out patiently.

There do seem to be ongoing problems,
1) fake volume being one of them (which seems a common ploy https://cryptobriefing.com/hitbtc-insolvent-scams-users-cybercrime/ and OKEx has addressed it)
2) it does appear they're using coded-by-non-English-speakers AI bots positioned as "real" tech people for English-language support. Alternatively, they're rapidly on-boarding tech personnel with specific instructions to respond quickly, if not intelligently, to placate people frustrated with wait times.
3) Their founder has, at the least, put his name on other projects of questionable ethics and "ponzi-like" structure. Could just be a quest for rapid growth and other peoples' fraud ensnaring him.

But in the end the current management seem up-front and they do seem to be trying to run a legitimate, secure exchange. On thing that lends to this conclusion: Their CEO is an American citizen. Penalties for crypto/cyber fraud there are severe, and America projects it law enforcement authority worldwide, I just can't see an educated, intelligent person taking this high-profile job if he couldn't ensure it was legit.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: WildRig Multi 0.28.3: Can't connect to pool with multi-gpu machines on: March 19, 2021, 03:59:22 PM
For mining Kyan with x11d, it just won't connect with multi-gpu rigs. Just get "timeout" from the pool (mecrypto.club in this instance). And it's really finicky about even getting it to work with individual GPUs, setting the threads to 2 and intensity to 22x128 works on, for instance, an RX5600s and RX5700s, but no combination will hash with RX580 8GB cards.

RX480 4GB cards load any intensity/opencl setting.

start.bash:

#!/bin/bash
#export GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR=1
#export GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
#export GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
#export GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE=100
#export GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

# opencl-launch 22x128 with two threads worked; 24x256 didn't
screen -dmS wildrig ./wildrig-multi --algo x11k --opencl-threads 2 --opencl-launch 22x128 --opencl-device 0 --strategy 1 \
-o stratum+tcp://na.mecrypto.club:9484 -u (my_kyan_wallet) -w x -p Annabelle75_$(hostname)_gpu

(mecrypto.club reads the password field as the worker name, hence the juxtaposition)

________________________

Produces:
[09:50:08] AMD Navi(gfx1010) not fully optimized yet for chosen algorithm
[09:50:08] GPU #0: AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT [busID: 3] [arch: gfx1010]
[09:50:08] threads: 2, intensity: 22, worksize: 128/256, cu: 36, mem: 6128Mb
[09:50:11] use pool na.mecrypto.club:9484 149.248.58.224
[09:50:11] Stratum set raw difficulty to 0.0160

But intensity of 22x256, anything_x_256 and it won't hash.

Any ideas would be most welcome, and thanks!
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Intake of GDPR crimes begun, asked for referral for fraud against the entire ICO on: October 16, 2020, 11:38:53 PM
@Annabelle75

What you are saying really makes no sense at all? Exscudo sold DOT (old) for $90 then supported the split. So if you had DOT bought at $90 each would x100 then reduce value to .90c each (same thing) now at

Ah, thanks for the update, and yes I didn't know they split, polkadot hasn't been on my radar because...

@cryptocolumbus1978  Bitcoin and ETH have been. The funding for my exscudo investment came from a large ETH mining farm I built from leftover cluster computing and bitcoin equipment (remember ASICs being the death knell for GPUs in BTC?). I had already retired before mining, so lucky in that respect -- not a lot of women get out of tech early. Which I only mention because it means two things: I have the resources to follow through and hold Exscudo accountable and 2) You're correct, in this, I'm a PITA because in addition to the means, I have the time and will to effect punitive measures as Exscudo were systematically unlawful and abusive in projecting their coding impotence as my problem.

So, yes, now I will to force disclosure of how much they paid to speak at events, travel, used for personal gain, etc.  While it seems the DOT offer was nice, we can all agree Exscudo is an utter failure, while projects like DOT and ATOM are revolutionary on top of the brilliance of BTC and ETH. The difference is a focus on quality code, not personal gain.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Intake of GDPR crimes begun, asked for referral for fraud against the entire ICO on: October 16, 2020, 07:46:56 PM
😂😂😂 What are you talking about really? Ive never had such a problem and as a ICO investor I don't have any fees using this multi broker exchange which is amazingly fluent and easy to use. Yes I invested a lot more then just 0.2BTC and never had problems with withdrawals or so. Even better due to Exscudos special deal for Polkadot I made a lot of $$$$$ as the buy option was 0.90$ and sold them for 4$ each. A gain of more then 400%!!!🚀🚀🚀 Thank you Exscudo Team and lets rock and roll into the future🥳🥳🥳

I seriously doubt you're anything more than a  scam account as the Exscudo "special deal" was $90 per DOT IOU -- not 0.90 -- and it's now under $4, about a 95% loss if you'd bought them at the "offer".

https://exscudo.com/blog/exscudo/buy-polkadot-dot/
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/polkadot


Regardless, I invested a lot more than 0.2, as I said, there's very little left of my original investment.

Shame on Exscudo for lying to me and lying about the reasons they won't just give whatever is left back...
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Intake of GDPR crimes begun, asked for referral for fraud against the entire ICO on: October 16, 2020, 06:50:26 PM


I forgot to add -- Exscudo initially told me the 2FA problem was with using Firefox browser, which is my default. That, too, wasn't true -- it doesn't work under Chrome either. So I also submitted a screenshot of that email to originate my complaint.

After I forwarded back to Exscudo their own admission they had 2FA issues is when they started getting pithy about blaming me for their impotent software work. Pretty lame.

Ah, well, I hope this helps someone else get their money out...
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Intake of GDPR crimes begun, asked for referral for fraud against the entire ICO on: October 16, 2020, 06:44:59 PM
Short version -- if you have any access to any remaining funds @Exscudo, try and get them immediately. While GDPR crimes take time -- probably six months -- they're serious violations with serious fines. I Given the clear fraud and malignancy I've experienced trying to settle with Exscudo, I've asked for the higher 40M Eur, to be applied. I suspect Exscudo lacks the funds to pay 40 pounds, let a alone 40 million.

  _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________


Long Version -- I've been trying to get my investment back for years. On 5 Oct 2018 I was able to receive a pittance, 0.024 bitcoin, which came out to 0.0235:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/b71c942b78471336145e172737ece3a90a69d3cc43bd231fa46c52da332f1bbc

To begin my GDPR complaint, I submitted the emailed-from-Exscudo confirmation receipt I received of that transaction, and a video of me logging into the receiving exchange's account. The account name at that exchange is my email, and that email is the same as my Exscudo account login. It's a private domain under my private control, not gmail or shared accounts. The video shows me using my email, and 2FA via Google Authenticator, logging into that receiving exchange and showing the "deposit history" of 0.0235 BTC in from Exscduo, which can be seen on the blockchain above.

At this point, ownership of my previous receiving/withdraw address from Exscudo is proven. Ownership of my private domain on my private server is registered via internic and my ability to log into it is proven. The domain has never been hacked, there are no "hacking" complaints lodged with any registrar.

Next I submit for the GDPR complaint screenshots of multiple, failed withdraw attempts over the years from Exscudo. I express my belief that Exscudo has lacked the funds to complete the withdraw of my investment from at least Nov, 2018, and have been being misleading about it.

To support that, I then submit multiple emails from Exscudo saying they're software "updates" have having issues, will be fixed, and are the reason I can't withdraw.

Next I submit communications from Exscudo saying the software is "fixed", yet screenshots show that I still can't withdraw.

Finally a withdraw goes through, but I have to set up "2FA". So I set it up, write down the restoration code and have Exscudo linked to my account showing up in google auth, which displays "my.exscudo.com (Auth) ([my@emailaccount.com])".

The 2FA, like all their previous "updates", doesn't work.

Next I submit pictures of the failed 2FA withdraw with my Google Authenticator app open displaying the code.

Next I submit several dozen communications from Exscudo asking me for passport, government ID, home address, home phone, all things in direct violation of the GDPR -- you cannot change the terms of consent after-the-fact. That is, I sent bitcoin in under X terms of consent, I want what little bitcoin back that they haven't squandered under the same consent terms. The GDPR is very cut-and-dry about this, it's a clear and indisputable violation.

Next I submit dozens of communications from Exscudo where their response to my requests that are, essentially, "your 2FA is broken, here's the original code Exscudo gave me for 2FA, can you manually insert it into your broken 2FA system so I can withdraw" of Exscudo telling me my account is "hacked" because they can't property set up 2FA.

Next I submit a dozen or so request for Exscudo to reveal their GDPR controller -- they're required to but won't. Another clear and indisputable violation.

I copy and send to my GDPR advocate another dozen or so communications from Exscudo aggressively and rudely projecting their incompetence as my problem, and my need to give this company my home address, home phone and personal IDs. The advocate seems pretty shocked: "I hope you didn't!" they say. Another clear in indisputable violation.

Next I submit copies of me forcibly resetting my password on Exscudo. This process goes to my account name, which is my email, and works.

Today I updated the  complaint documentation with a screenshot of Exscudo locking me out of my account. "User disabled, login is impossible".

I ask if the GDPR complaint process can restore my entire investment -- Exscudo wasted the ICO money away, presumably on travel, personal profit and other frivolous expenditures -- they clearly haven't put any of the ICO money into any form of competent software development/developers -- not just the pittance that is left. The GDPR specifically allows requests for non-mitigated losses -- meaning the time and aggravation of dealing with their fraud(s). So I decide on three times my initial investment, plus, of course, the initial investment.

I add working 2FA to a personal website just out of curiosity, it takes me less than an hour; the API is robust, shows examples, is easy to understand with minimal code insertion in the actual website.  I muck up the secret in the DB, can't log in, reset it to the original, takes about another three minutes. Yeah, I remember when Personal Home Page came out so am familiar with LAMP, and there was already a CakePHP plugin. Still, it's not rocket science. Exscudo could've reset the "secret" key in a couple minutes and I wouldn't be dealing with this drama, and they wouldn't be on the receiving end of GDPR investigations and hopefully fines....

I ask for clarification if the GPDR can assist with a group litigation order since it seems to me the initial ICO -- which touted buying 1.0 million EON as the amount for a PoS supernode for DeFi -- was, itself, a bait-and-switch fraud to attract investors to what is itself just a scam. I asked if the GDPR can assist in a group litigation order. This is what yanks think of as "class action lawsuit". Meaning, IF YOU INVESTED IN EXSCUDO AND LOST BITCOIN, YOU CAN JOIN IN THIS SUIT TO TRY AND RECOUP ASSETS LOST.  At the very least, as I'm unsure who actually owns this "private company", the GDPR process will resolve and reveal that.

The GDPR stipulates that the "controller" is personally liable for losses related to GDPR noncompliance. So I have some hope of getting something back as I named the person who kept telling me Exscudo's software problems were the reason I needed to help Exscudo break GDPR laws (and thus help them collect passport/ID information on people from whom Exscudo were fraudulently witholding assets).

I doubt anyone is using the "exchange" at all or is in any way hopeful of getting their investment back, but if you want to go through the aggravation of filing a GDPR complaint (since you can hold people personally responsible, not the company itself), the process is: Try and withdraw. When they want personally identifying information, decline to give it, assert your rights under the GDPR, ask whom the controller is, and when they won't give you your BTC back or disclose the controller, you can join me in the GDPR complaint...  

  _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________


DM for further information or how to join in either the GDPR or GLO.

Personally, I think Exscudo should be more upfront about how much is left of the ICO funds and, without admitting guilt of wasting the investment, just offer to distribute the remainder back to investors and fold the company. If you're reading this, a pint says they fold and "exit scam" run soon...
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is OKEX a good exchange? on: September 27, 2020, 12:55:58 AM
Now my account is locked and they want my passport and driver's license. They already have my home address, name and home phone number.

This is a really shitty situation. Is this your first time using this exchange?
I wanted to know more about KYC and Withdrawal Limits at Okex but I only have find that there a 3 level accounts. But I didn't find any information what kind of data they asked for the different accounts....?
source: https://www.okex.com/support/hc/en-us/articles/360014344392-KYC-and-Withdrawal-Limits

So is it possible that you have exceeded the limit?

But regardless, at least they could send everything back to you. Would you really go for a lawsuit?

Apologies @bct_ail, I didn't answer your questions.

Yes, I will litigate, and ask for punitive damages and for GDPR regulators to step in and fine them. Post Cryptopia, BTC-E etc etc it also registers my deposit/claim for the inevitable hack I'd think is coming as they certainly don't appear to me to have a competent team behind them.

I haven't exceeded any limits as I haven't withdrawn anything as I can't even log in. I've also tried the WeChat auth a frustrating dozen or so times and it always returns "server error". Regardless, Maltese law seems to be 5000GBP/day and EU law is 10K Euro if you register your name and address.

Not comfortable with them having even phone/address information.

I would *NEVER* send these people your passport for a higher verification. As I mentioned, as I read the GDPR, they're not authorized to collect and store it in the first place.

I'm going to stick with Binance/bitfinex. At least you can speak to a functioning, intelligent human...
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / THIS SITE IS AN IDENTITY THEFT SCAM, CONSTANTLY VIOLATING THE GDPR on: September 27, 2020, 12:32:34 AM
Now my account is locked and they want my passport and driver's license. They already have my home address, name and home phone number.

This is a really shitty situation. Is this your first time using this exchange?
I wanted to know more about KYC and Withdrawal Limits at Okex but I only have find that there a 3 level accounts. But I didn't find any information what kind of data they asked for the different accounts....?
source: https://www.okex.com/support/hc/en-us/articles/360014344392-KYC-and-Withdrawal-Limits

So is it possible that you have exceeded the limit?

But regardless, at least they could send everything back to you. Would you really go for a lawsuit?

So it turns out they regulated by the laws of the UK and Wales:

https://www.okex.com/support/hc/en-us/articles/360021813691-Terms-of-Service

13. GOVERNING LAW

The Terms, your use of the Services, any claim, counterclaim or dispute of any kind or nature whatsoever arising out of the Terms, directly or indirectly, shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with the laws of England and Wales without regard to the principles of conflicts of laws thereof.

As an unlicensed exchange they are not vetted or certified to collect government-issued IDs from EU residents.

Violating the GDPR, like I've read they've consistently done by locking accounts after deposit, comes with serious penalties. Specifically meant to be punitive enough to encourage not breaking them again. I'll reach out to their new CEO Jay Hao (who went to Georgia Tech and, fortunately, speaks English) but I have serious doubts that they type of person who takes over a company that so aggressively and flagrantly breaks the law has the moral compass to effect change. Hopefully I'm wrong and he's an upstanding kind of person.

They seem hugely focused on scamming ID documents -- all by random, anonymous people using a singular VoIP phone that they don't answer and/or the group "support@okex.com" email.

Were they, for instance, a registered bank where you could talk to a human, record their name and employment position and their financial license came with guarantees if they steal from you or sell your identity, I'd happily verify if only to get rid of them and their -- to date -- 56 inane, moronic emails and the hassle of dealing with them.

Regardless, I deeply regret ever sending even 3/4 of a bitcoin in mined Eth/BTC there to test it out.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is OKEX a good exchange? on: September 25, 2020, 01:12:43 PM
it's how honorably they behave as custodians of peoples' money. In that, OKEx fails. Utterly.
It's the same as when OKcoin was still operating in the past. I remember when okcoin could not even paid bitcoin jesus regarding the domain usage.

In my experience with the current okcoin exchange aka okex site if it's full with the bots.


Wasn't falsifying internal transaction volume one of the charges Star Xu was arrested (again) for in China?

Regardless, I initiated a complaint with the MFSA. Hopefully if they are actually applying for VFA registration, they won't be able to until all complaints are cleared.

Next step is a lawsuit.

What a bunch of criminals. They keep saying "do this, do that and we'll unlock your account" then it's always back to the spam mail:


    Dear valued customer,

    Thank you for your reply. We understood your urgency on this issue but
    we need the information from you for the account security and
    verification purpose. Please send us the information below in order to
    proceed with the next steps:

    1.Full name (including middle names, please be consistent with your
    document)

    2.Date of birth,

    3.Nationality,

    4.Type of the identity document

    5.Identity document number,

    6.The photo of your identity document.

    7. The account you want to unlink:

    8. Are you agree to freeze the account for 72 hours before removal?

    Once we receive the information, we will definitely help you to remove
    the google authenticator and you can log in to the account. Hope to
    hear from you, thank you.

    Best Regards
    Ashley |Customer Service Representative

    Support@okex.com | +1 2267984487


Has anyone tried calling their support line? For me it just beeps thrice and hangs up. Frustrating.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is OKEX a good exchange? on: September 25, 2020, 12:34:58 AM
Okex is also one of the exchanges that i like the most together with binance. Havent experience any difficulties or problem when j trade on okex, so i assure you that oken is a good exchange.
I agree that okex is one of the good and trusted when it comes to exchange, for me okex is on top 2 exchange next to binance  in my opinion.

Trusted by whom? Certainly not the people they've scammed into (wrongly and needlessly) giving them their passport, driver's license and home address... ...nor by those that get locked out with zero way to speak to someone competent.

The measure of an "exchange" isn't really pointy-clicky ordering, it's how honorably they behave as custodians of peoples' money. In that, OKEx fails. Utterly.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Is OKEX a good exchange? on: September 24, 2020, 05:05:32 PM
OKEX IS A TOTAL SHAM SITE!

I sent origin, zero use Ethereum (from mining "rewards") and Bitcoin into the exchange. Mining rewards, by definition, aren't "laundered" as they've never been used and their origin is on the blockchain for all to see. The physical location of the mining center is available, and all credit card receipts show my partners and I purchased them via a route that has passed AML/KYC verification.

Now my account is locked and they want my passport and driver's license. They already have my home address, name and home phone number.

OKEx, unlike Binance, is an unregulated exchange that will let you transfer in crypto, but then lock your account and -- in clear violation of the UK's GDPR rules -- hold your funds until they can gather everything the need to assume your identity. They have no need for AML/KYC information for amounts under 5,000 Euro by Maltese law, or generally 10,000 in the EU.

And these are not the type of people you want to trust with your personal information -- they seem dead-set on gathering as much of it as they can:

The founder has been arrested for fraud and internal scams, aka "Exit Scams"
https://cointelegraph.com/news/breaking-founder-of-crypto-exchange-okex-allegedly-detained-on-crypto-fraud-charges-in-china
https://asiatimes.com/2018/09/arrest-of-okex-exchange-owner-star-xu-not-crypto-related/

DO NOT TRUST OKEX!

In trying to resolve my lock-out, I've received about 50 moronic messages interspersed with so-called "supervisors" who claim to have the authority to unlock my account, but never do, just shunting me back down the line. There's absolutely no way to call them directly or email someone in charge directly. Since they have my home address and home phone number (I have small children, and I don't appreciate 7am calls from blocked numbers!) and no one answers the call-back number. It beeps thrice and disconnects.

I've asked the MFSA -- Maltese Financial Services Authority -- to intervene, but OKEx isn't registered so there's little they can do.

The next step is a civil suit against Star Xu, however if you read the second link, people he's already defrauded had to track him down by following his personal trainer. Xu called the police on them and it was him who was arrested... Hard to sue someone you can't serve. Conversely, they can easily just come to my house since they have my home address. Regardless, hopefully the civil court will choose to serve the companies counsel of record, if they even have one.

As a long-time miner and crypto user since 2012, shame on me for not doing more research...
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: September 24, 2020, 04:45:22 PM
Months pass and I still can't withdraw my funds. This is really frustrating...
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