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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🌐 PagareX 🌐 on: March 08, 2018, 11:45:33 PM
PagareX is created by Russians, the same scammers who created HomeBlockCoin (HBC).

In their previous project (HBC) they manipulated the back-office price and fucked early investors forcing them to convert their interest for much higher "fixed" price and then sell it on an exchange for a much lower market price. The difference was 3, then 10, then 20 times and growing as the market price sinks...

Now they quietly abandoned HBC project (without formally closing it). No project updates, no news, no answering in Telegram or Forum by the devs, just selling their HBC in portions. Price goes down, lending interest goes down...

And now they concentrate on their PagareX project.

SO DO NOT INVEST IN PAGAREX! THE RUSSIAN SCAMMERS WILL DO THE SAME WITH THIS ONE AS THEY DID WITH HBC.
AND YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR MONEY.

Oh, and they will delete this post, as they did with the other ones Smiley



EXACTLY

https://img2.picload.org/image/daocaiww/10.jpg

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HA this IS pretty damning, yet they will likely scam millions once again...
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: When Internal Price going to match external price? 🔥 on: January 22, 2018, 02:51:36 AM
I thought I saw somewhere in the haphazard array of disjointed communications from HBC that they were going to fix their internal HBC/USD price to equal the external exchange(s)?  Does anyone know anything about this or a time-frame?

Currently you get prison-raped converting your lending profits to HBC (and therefore to BTC if desired) as the internal conversion rate is ALWAYS TWO TIMES the actual market value.  For example, right now:

HBC Lending Profit Exchange Rate (that you have no choice about if you want to actually withdrawal/use profits):
1 HBC = 7.98$
1 HBC = 0.000674 BTC

HBC's OWN INTERNAL EXCHANGE current pricing:
Bid: 1 HBC = 0.000317 BTC
Ask: 1 HBC = 0.000317 BTC

CoinMarketCap Value:
1 HBC = $3.64 USD
1 HBC = 0.000308 BTC

At a 220% internal markup, you're $100 in "profit" is actually $45!!!  You get screwed even if you want to trade internally, much less externally.

Is this going to be corrected, and if so, when? It is IMPOSSIBLE to convince any thinking person to Lend when they do sixty seconds of research and realized they're going to be screwed the moment they actually try and use/withdrawal any profits.

You should probably research a little better before writing an entire paragraph about a platform... first the price isn’t always half what the market is...it fluctuates between $7.90 and $8.14...secondly you aren’t losing money I’ll lay it out for you.

1. If you today invested $5000 worth HBC that would give you at current market value $3.60 each approx 1,388 HBC you then transfer them to lending and HBC will give your 1388 coins a value of $8.14 for lending purposes that means you are now lending $11300 which puts you in the highest bracket. You then Wait 24 hours and receive your 1st payment which is avg of 0.015% that’s $169 of the $11300 (BUT remember your actual investment is $5000 dollars) so we transfer the $169 you received and you get 21 HBC you then sell them on the exchange for $3.60 cents (because you never sell below your price entry point) and you make $77 dollars...far short of $169 yes but the math on your actual investment is this $5000 x 0.015 = $75 so you are making 0.015% on your real investment.

Don’t come on here trying to call this platform something it isn’t because everything they have advertised has been the case.

The only people who can complain about the price not being synced are those who invested higher than the $8.00 point which are the early investors.

You have now been discredited BUH-BYE

So, assuming this is accurate (and assuming you can respond like you're not 12... "buh-bye"? Really?), WHY on earth does HBC do it that way, artificially inflate your lend value only to artificially deflate your profit value, even if it does net out close to the same at the moment?  The fact that HBC arbitrarily (seemingly) sets/adjusts the internal exchange price in a way that is not consistent with market value is a hell of a thing to explain to a potential lender/investor...
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / When Internal Price going to match external price? 🔥 on: January 22, 2018, 01:21:59 AM
I thought I saw somewhere in the haphazard array of disjointed communications from HBC that they were going to fix their internal HBC/USD price to equal the external exchange(s)?  Does anyone know anything about this or a time-frame?

Currently you get prison-raped converting your lending profits to HBC (and therefore to BTC if desired) as the internal conversion rate is ALWAYS TWO TIMES the actual market value.  For example, right now:

HBC Lending Profit Exchange Rate (that you have no choice about if you want to actually withdrawal/use profits):
1 HBC = 7.98$
1 HBC = 0.000674 BTC

HBC's OWN INTERNAL EXCHANGE current pricing:
Bid: 1 HBC = 0.000317 BTC
Ask: 1 HBC = 0.000317 BTC

CoinMarketCap Value:
1 HBC = $3.64 USD
1 HBC = 0.000308 BTC

At a 220% internal markup, you're $100 in "profit" is actually $45!!!  You get screwed even if you want to trade internally, much less externally.

Is this going to be corrected, and if so, when? It is IMPOSSIBLE to convince any thinking person to Lend when they do sixty seconds of research and realized they're going to be screwed the moment they actually try and use/withdrawal any profits.
4  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: July 06, 2017, 06:22:56 PM
There is plenty of documentation at wiki.haasonline.com

That's a great place to start, but if you'll look at the basic questions I've asked in the forum link above, you'll see that it is far from complete.  Whether it's what a particular setting does, or something as general as "what's the best way to monitor the current status/activity of my active bots", there's plenty of unanswered questions for getting started past "good job, you have a running bot." Some of my questions may be bugs, but they are probably mostly just not finding documentation for a why/how question.
5  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: July 06, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
I have been using this bot for the past week and I must say it is quite awesome. In order to become profitable, you must understand some basics of TA and spend time tuning your strategy via backtests. I have made some profits over the last week, but due to the uncertainty in China regarding bitcoin, I am currently waiting for the dust to settle before getting back in. I am also in the process of piecing together some documentation on my website (http://bitcoinbotreview.com ) to make things easier for newer customers or those who would like more information about how exactly this bot works.

Super excited to hear about anyone working on documentation.  i'm a new user (though not new to cryptotrading or bots) and getting up to speed has been challenging.  Please check out the post below and feel free to contribute to answers.  i'd also be willing to contribute to documentation (once *I* figure it out) as I think the only two things keeping HaasBot from ruling the world are 1) lack of decent onboarding documentation, and 2) an active online user community of collaboration/support/strategies.

https://forum.haasonline.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1620
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What will kill GPU mining profitability in 2017? on: June 05, 2017, 01:49:41 PM
That pc is tax free in delaware so 1580  is the price.  I get a 98 dollar best buy discount  so it is 1482.  If it earns 8 a day then 6 a day then 4 a day then 2 a day  you average 5 so in 200 days it is 1000 back.  bringing the cost of a quality pc under 480  .

My point is boosting coin prices will sell pc's and pc companies are starting to see the sales.  which means they will feed some money into coins  as a commercial  of sorts.

Or is a meaning less concept in this example.  as no one looking to roi will buy this.   they would build a 2 x 1080ti machine of the same price and run it as an open careless rig.

this is for a dorm and a guy that wants a stud pc for his dorm it just got a lot cheaper due to mining potentail.


Isn't that profitability/return only true until they get their utility bill?  I guess if you're in a dorm and someone else is paying the bill, great, but other than that?
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