By all means, i welcome you to ignore my posts. But it was not directed towards you in any manner, though you were welcome to respond. However, High King Of Gomorrah, your snarky comment is not respected, or your opinion considered anything more than that, an opinion. As i said, i am here waiting for my bitfloor refund and then im leaving this community. As i have been the fool once and believed BTC was worth something, though time has shown not only the people running the companies are skeevy, but the people handling them and in them (i.e. PiratAt40). If you disagree with any comments, please go find the negative aspects of BTC and see if it is worth the financial risk. No bank will back you if your "btc wallet goes missing", none of it is federally or state backed currency.  And if you believe Kmart, Starbucks, and your Local Diner will being accepting BTC as currency then you are the fool.

Heres this link again. FEDERAL judge rules Bitcoin INVESTMENT constitutes Securities. On that fact it is a contractual investment at times. But it is not 'money', it is pseudo currency. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jordanmaglich/2013/08/07/court-green-lights-bitcoin-lawsuit-rules-investments-constitute-securities/

BTC is pseudo currency, PERIOD. You will never begin paying for your macdonalds or your dry cleaning with BTC. Maybe some places accept it, but they believe it has some real value. Big businesses will never start hiring BTC CFO's to follow the 'bitcoin trading market' to help their company trade with Europe BTC markets and make financial BTC choices.

Cash, Dollar, Cash.

Ignore. Hit ignore. I ask you, oh the grandest King of Dirt.

As soon as the refund is processed im gone, and everyone who wishes to continue with bitcoin can do so, with no judgement. As i said before, personally i do not trust something that doesnt 'exist' physically. Give me a Quarter Gram of Silver over a screen that says i have '1 btc' any day.

Any response from you other than "I enjoy the taste of my foot", will be met with a non-response.

Everywhere does not accept bitcoin. Therefore it is not true currency. It is pseudo currency. Cash is king. There is very few places in the US that would REQUIRE any other sort of other payment. They may ACCEPT BTC or whatever but they only want BTC because they believe it is of a true value. Which it is not, it is worth whatever the market claims it is worth. 1 Dollar is worth 1 Dollar at every store. 1 BTC is worth XXXX dollars and fluctuates. This isnt a question. You can invest $500 dollars in chicken nuggets, but in the end you have chicken nuggets that are only worth whatever someone claims they are worth, whereas your $500 is worth $500, period. And the whole "well US dollars are actually worth less on the market due to this and this and this", that is for the businessmen and internationals to speak of. But for any Civilian, it is $1 is worth $1 everywhere within the country.

I agree. But the only "TRUE" currency is whatever currency the country you live in provides. Everything else is pseudo-currency/faux currency. Id rather have "true" currency then a pseudo currency. Just personal opinion.

I agree. Im only here for the sole fact that i still have yet to receive my bitfloor refund. I am non-IAFCU. I will NEVER again invest in a scheme like this, being bitcoin. If many of you havent realized, it is a hub for people to play you over. Read this, maybe this would bring Romans head out of the sand.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jordanmaglich/2013/08/07/court-green-lights-bitcoin-lawsuit-rules-investments-constitute-securities/

All our money being put in is investments in a faux currency. If at any time someone said "Hey, im closing" or "This is worth nothing", then the people who are collecting these investments would be rich and all the investors would be the poorer. Its no different than real currency/investments. And the judge in the case above agreed.

Im finally sorted my issues with Bitfloor and LocalTill (to an extent). I have $1550 in bitfloor and due to it being below 3000 it is being processed non-IAFCU. Says exactly what Infested quoted above.

"Your refund information is under review. Once reviewed, your refund will be sent to you electronically."

What does the GIF have to do with anything?

Answer is, Because he can get away with it. He can run us all through the loops and no one is doing anything to fight him on it.

To spottedmarley, infested999, Dreamscape, etc...

Any of you regardless of which state you are in can open a New York Department of Financial Services case against Bitfloor, as its the state they operate in. With the NYDFS getting numerous complaint that would spark a fire under their ass to make a move and get things solved even faster. And non-compliance would be negative to Romans favor. So he would have to respond to wallow in his own creation.

And anyone (Must reside in NY) can open a Class Action Suit against them. Class suits are state based but you need a state case representative. This would/could cover all those effected by the BS we have under gone.

Heres another thing to ponder (as we do not truly know what has happened with our money), Think of the interest built up on all the money he has held for near 4 months. If the accounts were in the millions and he has even 1% interest, thats alot of money he gets to keep for himself in the end...

Asides the point, The faster people files with NYDFS the faster a solution will come. And if someone decides (and knows a bitcoin law firm) to open a suit against them, this is the time. Well actually, 3 months ago was the time, but the longer waited the deeper the pit gets to climb out. But everyone who has been mishandled by this is owed answers and a resolution. Doubtful that any of us are excessively greedy, but we want back what we put in (the money). And at this point they are refusing to coordinate and work with many of us. And an example with me is they have blocked my account. But i have all the other proof, except my account. This is unacceptable. TD bank isnt just going to lock your account and not tell you anything. Bitfloor is holding money in our name, they owe answers.

Better than that i have the localtill deposit Transaction ID #, I have the Bank of America slip, and i have 1.6K missing in my personal accounts (removed as cash) the same exact day. And i have a NYDFS case submitted the next day and 3 days after that it was opened by NYDFS (this is back in april when they closed. Day they close is when i deposited.)

As i have said to them and localtill, all this is more than enough info to gather my funds. Localtill finally admitted that they "found/traced my funds" and bitfloor would credit them to my account. But then my bitfloor account doesnt log in. AND when i hit forgot password, it never sends the reset email. When i try it (password reset) with another 100% unused account i get a reset email, even though i absolutely never used this email.

Kind of feel its their way of "sticking it to me" because i reported them to NYDFS. So they block me accessing it. And block my password resets. And never respond to my emails.

Eventually this will catch up with Roman, if NYDFS decides hes playing games, away he goes (meaning court, payouts, jail, whatever the result).

All any of us care for is getting our money back, of which has been gone for 3 almost 4 months. And if someone didnt care about their money, they probably wouldnt be in bitcoin or on this forum.

Well by some magical means my account login no longer works. With about 1.6K in there it doesnt seem it will be coming out. And with bitfloor support not responded there is nothing left to do.

It is bitfloor support to help, or it is back to the New York Department of Financial Services to open a new case on Bitfloor. Goes from being a localtill problem, to being a bitfloor problem. When will it cease!

Love how the ads for this thread were for butterflylabs... Backhanded humor.

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This thread was about a localtill issue. It was Edited and removed by me but there still an issue. Knowing how they react if they see this they will just say "oops no money" or never respond. All in all Localtill is a load of puppy filth and their New York account will be spoken of to the New York Banking commissioner. Anyone else encounter localtill problems? Issue was money was deposited by means of localtill, never ended up in account, and the Bitcoin company has ceased. So now localtill is sitting on money that isnt theirs. So that is the issue. And its not an amount of money to take as a full loss. Yes, if some was lost in the exchange it could be handled, but it wouldnt be the full amount.