Funny people always worry about others holding but clever people looks to mark high profit yield with their investment. When you have invested in bitcoin and you are being holders means hope you will not sure that you with that title.

Such a great observation! Hats off to you, mate! By telling this bitter truth, you opened the uneducated holder's face who know nothing but the "HODL" word! Holding is not a bad virtue, but you have to have enough knowledge when to hold and when to sell, and by doing this, you can be a trader too! Don't listen to anybody, use your own brain and manage your wealth as like as you want! This strategy will remain strong until the crypto end day!

I guess it depends on, if in this period you trade trying to 'buy the bottom', or whether you short, or use trading platforms that allow you to do similar things

But that explanation undermines your previous point

If you are looking into the market once or twice a week, you may see where the ship sails, and thus choose your entry and exit points (mostly, the latter).  Indeed, if you make a couple trades a week, this won't make you into a day trader (though opinions may vary), but that still makes you a trader, not a 100% holder

Technically, it is exactly the idea behind "hodling", i.e. to forget about your cryptocurrency investments for a few years (the longer the better). You can see such advices springing up here and here of the forum, especially when someone was unlucky to buy at or near the top. To sum it up, a hodler is essentially a failed trader

This was related to me right now.. 100% agree to people who says , just holding assets is can't make profit itself.. do trading with it.
But the problem is I didn't know how to trading , just know basic steps of trading.. mostly I do trading and lost about 10-15% of my assets and I stop it.
Maybe later I must learn more about trading , because this was important to gain more profits.

Yes, you are correct that hodling is not a good idea but trading is also not a good idea as the market being manipulated by whales can lead to losses as we don't when the market can go up or down but surely it is much better than hodling.

I think we do not need to worry about HODLING if the investment is intended for long term. This is important to understand because where HODL could be a reason of loss for many investors, it could be a savor for those who HODL to regain their losses. SO regardless of the market situation, you should HOLD if you either intend big profits or you expect recovery.

They are still same people coming on this platform to pour their anger because of their lack of knowledge, strategy and patience, instead of them to learn from the older ones on how they were able to manage through all the storms they went through before bitcoin reaches its ATH last time.

When did they invest that they would not let the peace of bitcoin be, we have some matured investors that would even buy shares in a company in the real life, leave it there for even up to 30 years before they even think of asking about it, which they don’t usually regret after going back to it. So, we really need to be patient for our investment to really grow by holding.

The problem is what people are being told. Some people that lost their money in bitcoin today, it wouldn’t have happened if they were given the right information. Some of them just hopped in because they thought that bitcoin is a place for a quick money, but what they met was different . When giving information to people , it’s best that we let them know the risks involved in cryptocurrency, it’s not just about making profit , you can as well lose your money . So if you’re hodl, then do so what you can afford to risk.

I think you’re not getting what he’s trying to say. It’s not everyone of us that knows how to trade , so there are lots f people that lose their money in trading because they don’t know how to trade, it happens to a lot of people everyday. Hodl is a way out for those that don’t know how  and wouldn’t like to stress themselves much with all the stress and risks that comes with being a day trader. Day trading is good if you know how to trade at least you will be making profits on a daily , unlike Hodl where you will have to wait for like months or even up to a year.

How can it possibly be a valid strategy?

And I'm not even sure what you mean by valid (or invalid) here, care to explain? A trading strategy can be profitable or unprofitable, and that's in essence all that counts and makes sense in the end. I don't know how it can be "valid" if it brings only losses, and for those who bought at anything higher than 10k, it is a losing game as of yet. So instead of daily stress these people received perpetual pain and suffering. Myself, I'd rather stick with the stress

Trading is a losing game for the majority of people.  If people all took your advice then the possible profits to made would shrink to practically nothing just like how the stock market became super efficient.  The truth is holding is a valid strategy for the majority of people that don't want the constant stress of day trading.

Would be great to attract Sales people for us as well.

Texts do not carry a tonality with them. You'll see negativity if you read it in that mindset. I had no ill intentions.
I have seen HUNDREDS of services like yours come and go since I joined this forum in 2013, so excuse my gray outlook judgment of your service with the same yardstick. The track record for genuine services from unknown people on this forum isn't really that great.

With that said, I stand by my point, your payments are on the low side. If you don't believe me, just wait till you eventually run into the same conclusion in a few months.
I'll still advice you to get a high ranking member to vouch for you. That'll do wonders.

Being cheeky won't get you anywhere.



I'm sorry, neither have I heard of your website before nor have I seen anyone of those 9000 traders recommending your site/service. This is despite the fact that I have been a very frequent trader up until October last year(2018).

Understand, I am not dissing on you or your site, I'm just saying 50 quids per referral for a job like this is not fair given the amount of time it'd take to convert each lead to a paying customer for you.

For better results in attracting workers try reaching out to a reputable BTT member and get them to vouch for you. I'm sure if you really have 9000 traders at least 1 would be willing to do that for you.

PS: The point of this forum is not to be just black/white = agree/disagree with anything you post. Sometimes, actually most of the times, you'll get suggestions from peeps like me. Doesn't necessarily mean there's a problem.