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To be fair, they have been answering all feedback and critics.
Even the non constructive ones. Perhaps we should provide good feedback or ideas that go beyond demands like “fix the demand side”.
All valuable companies have taken many years to be successful and yet we demand them to be successful and have the token to moon in 1 year.
If you do not believe in the company do sell your tokens.
People is earning dividends and this is not a science fiction ico with a non working product.
Finally, someone said it. |
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There will always be salty and/or unhappy people, especially if hidden behind nicknames.
Nothing new. We continue ahead.
There will be an important update this week with an updated roadmap on the V2 version.
We wanted to upload it earlier but we had to discuss and coordinate too many things after our CTO honeymoon last month.
Thanks!
Good to hear. Is Medium the only other place where you're active? I'd like to find out where I can get news about the project the fastest.. Thanks! they post in medium and share it on telegram, twitter and facebook |
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Guys, Chill. I have been in contact with the team since they communicated the news and everything seems legit. If you check the whitepaper, it was said that the budget was around 8M USD, and that they would use anything above for the crowdfunding push fund, it was also stated that it would just be for the first year, and that eventually, the REAL would need to get sold to fund the investments. They are following exactly what was described. The only innovation is to become a more open platform, but with the new model and purchase program, which resembles BNB, I believe it can become very successful. Do I feel bad that they had 20M resources and now half ? Yes. But I can not imagine how they feel. They are the first to suffer this. Did you all guys sell at ATH ?, not me  All I got is a plasma TV from those times. They raised 11M USD, they still have the same, and a working platform, several real estate investments (4 this year) subsidized with the crowdfunding push fund, and a great plan for the future. I do not think we can't complain. If you do not like what they will do, sell and move on! but please do not spread more FUD. For those of you suggesting it is a scam, I suggest you contact them, talk to them, or even visit them in Singapore. They are very good hardworking people who happen to be working in this mad crypto sector. |
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Looking good. Patience paid off. |
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According to their whitepaper they will accept tokens at market value.
Hopefully they dont do that and place a floor value .. around 1$ would be fair
Also, dont think they have 21M for properrties. They have total of 24 and they said they would invest 70% that is 17M
But also there are taxes....
I guess we will all know very soon!! Lets hope for the best
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Hi everyone,
We are sorry and understand the frustration because of the delay. We are in the same boat.
I have been allowed to share with you that we are looking at some quick solutions while we acquire our license such as doing a deal with an existing license holder. If those initiatives are fruitful we might go to market much sooner.
We will also release some other good news very shortly on our blog.
Again, thanks for your patience and support.
Miguel
That's a good idea! Hint: We need good news. I hope that can be possible. |
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"Yet,(...) the development of properties and operating commercial buildings by offering digital tokens that represent a share in the company, the regulator states that this would constitute securities under the SFA." e.i. Securities and Futures Act. The above was already known in November 2017. Yet they waited 5 months to share it with coin holders  )) source: https://www.ccn.com/singapores-central-bank-issues-new-guidelines-ico-securities-laws/FYI: REAL token do not represent a share in the company. They are payment/utility tokens to be used in the platform. There are some token holders like me that study the case and would have seen that immediately. Well, in A GUIDE TO DIGITAL TOKEN OFFERINGS issued by Monetary Authority of Singapore under "Digital tokens which constitute capital markets products" we read: "2.3.3 a unit in a collective investment scheme (“CIS”), where it represents a right or interest in a CIS, or an option to acquire a right or interest in a CIS. " and " Under section 2(1) of the SFA, a “collective investment scheme” is an arrangement in respect of any property bearing all of the following characteristics: participants have no day-to-day control over management of the property; property is managed as a whole by or on behalf of a manager; participants’ contributions and profits or income of the arrangement from which payments are to be made to the participants are pooled; and purpose or effect (or purported purpose or effect) of the arrangement is to enable participants to participate in or receive profits, income or other payments or returns arising from acquisition, holding, management or disposal of, the exercise of, the redemption of, or the expiry of any right, interest, title or benefit in the property or any part of the property. " I asume you are not a lawyer but there are some elements that won’t comply with this when platform is launched (lack of control -we can choose not to participate or which property to invest-, also pooling of income..) . In any case they are regulating it, so i do not see whats your point. I am pretty sure what they say is true. |
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"Yet,(...) the development of properties and operating commercial buildings by offering digital tokens that represent a share in the company, the regulator states that this would constitute securities under the SFA." e.i. Securities and Futures Act. The above was already known in November 2017. Yet they waited 5 months to share it with coin holders )) source: https://www.ccn.com/singapores-central-bank-issues-new-guidelines-ico-securities-laws/FYI: REAL token do not represent a share in the company. They are payment/utility tokens to be used in the platform. There are some token holders like me that study the case and would have seen that immediately. |
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I knew that this wasn't some random shit, who had patience till now it will be rewarded soon with steady passive income in the coming months/years. I just believe in it
Same here 👍👍👍 |
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Luv it! Very slick, congrats dev |
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Is this a scam coin? I see no team members information. No telegram discussion. No linkedin. Why hide everything?
They stopped the telegramchat because of scammers & impersonators. The official telegram-announcement channel does exist though, as the twitter, facebook and medium-account. As I said, no team information (no one to take the blame), no slack or any ways of possible communication between possible investors and team. For all we know the pictures and the articles could be fake. Did you register on this forum just to spread FUD about REAL ? (just 2 posts about it). if you follow this thread or their social media and blog posts it is clear nothing is fake.. Also check real.markets/old |
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looking good. and many things for q1. "Stay tuned for upcoming news regarding beta version, exchanges, legal, investments and hiring milestones which will happen during Q1 this year." Things are going at the right pace , guys just buy the dips and be finally happy when we'll start buying real properties partecipations Yup!! As i said.. very bullish!! Our patience is going to pay off big time. |
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Oh, btw, they stated many times the reasons for their delays. Some of you guys should read their announcements...
Even Google, Apple and Microsoft have delays...
I love what Panorama wrote above:
"If you go back through this thread, you'll find that it's mostly shitposting and complaining, so there's not much reason for her to participate. It seems that's why they are sticking to the public communication channels.
If you've got a real question, she'll answer you if you reach out, but I wouldn't expect her to jump into the lion's den here for no reason."
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It's tough to grasp that many projects are running their own timeframe and looking at others move quicker can be frustrating, but it's the downfall of access to so much info when in the past others relied on simple quarterly reports and press releases.
Developing the platform understandably takes time. Getting the legal work done and finding real estate to invest in shouldn't take as long. This has nothing to do with "too much" access to information. Each project needs time to develop. The roadmap is being implemented. Keep calm. A true and transparent project. I recommend keeping your card. Prices are up there, take a look at it here: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/real/Agree. It is fun to see the same impatient whining attitude across all ICO threads. They've been releasing a communication or announcement every week, answering all questions while advancing on the roadmap. People thinking that you just go to your bank with the raised crypto funds, get on many exchanges, navigate on the current regulatory environment, and have everything done in one month are delusional. There is no such thing as overnight success and this team is very experienced and capable. Very bullish on REAL. I keep my eye on the Real Etherscan address where all the Eth was collected, they still have nearly 26,000 ETH in the main wallet that is now worth $12 million, they have just in the last 24 hours cashed out 8,000 eth from the platform budget, this guarantees that they have the $3million they have budgeted for the platform build. The market cap is of REAL is only $3.9million but they have assets of $12 Million now to spend on properties, volume is low because nobody is selling – granted nobody is really buying either. I’ve been critical of the team previously but I honestly think if they can keep to the roadmap and Eth can maintain this sort of support until January time, we’ll be in a great situation with this token. What we need is more exchanges, and to be patient. yeah, Exactly no one sells and no one really buys. I think until December 17, 2017. When they finish the lid and start. The REAL price will be increased. And REAL will actually pay dividends of ETH. The roadmap is being implemented seriously. ICO funds are being used. We should not be pessimistic. Keep calm. A real project, it's a great company. Long-term stability is better than pumd and dump in previous months totally agree. |
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1. Thank you & how to contact you guys?
2. What is the actual date for platform?
3. Github no update at all, last update smart contract stories.
4. Whose the engineer in charge for platform?
5. Please dont tell me its a RED flag.
6. Its your duty to stay active in the group! Not deleting the telegram channel, how you guys handle community? You should treat the investor same as you request the money from them. You guys soo good when it comes to collect money, after collect delete channel? With a reason spam?
7. How to answer all of this with proof and result?
Thanks & Regarda
Not from team but please let me... easy answers.... please do some research 1. All social networks (real.markets) and email (real.markets.com/old) 2. Check roadmap on their last medium post 3. They mentioned they did not upload code to GitHub for security reasons until it is audited. Makes sense, they are dealing with investments. 4. I suppose Javier Llabres, their CTO. 5. ? 6. No, it is not to be active in a chat moderating spam, scam and answering the same questions over and over again. Their duty is to work and execute plans so it is a great business and success for everyone. 7. done. |
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Last price increasment on Ethereum can help a lot REAL team.
Hope they can advantage of it.
Yes, even for us ICO participants it is very lucrative as the ETH was $350 approx. when we participated and now it has grown approx 40% now. It will be a very successful company for the token holders. |
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So new roadmap is out, what do you think? Let's be honest, I was expeting those dates, a company can't set up legal and liquidity things in just a couple of month. I can surely wait, better if they take time to make things right
True. Timing is normal. And let's not forget they initially had planned for 8 MM USD budget and they cut to 3MM USD to benefit the token holders with that extra USD 5 Million. I have not seen any other ICO company doing the same and I see some people here being unreasonable. LOL. They cut their budget because they were basically forced to. Aside from the pressure put on them to address the issue, if they didn't do anything, they would have had an $8 million budget and only $3 million to invest. That's obviously not good economics. Plus, they've either been unwilling or unable to show the breakdown behind the $3 million budget. They provided detail when it was $8 million, so not sure why it's not provided with the updated budget. To their credit, Melissa messaged me privately to ask what they could do to help show me they are a capable team and I outlined a couple of the specific issues I have. We've actually messaged about things like this before, so I know she's trying...I just don't know if the team behind her is good enough. Also, the Telegram group has started banning people who ask questions, including myself. I know I've been critical of the team, but I take pride in making sure everything I say is based on fact. It's not a good sign that they are banning people who ask questions. Well, you mention they were forced to cut their budget by USD 5 Million but imho, they were not, and they could just have followed what they said in their whitepaper... they just chose the best economics for us token holders, not for them. That just is a huge sign of good faith for me. Also, they did not ban anyone they just shut down the group as they explained and I am glad they did. Too much spam, phising and whining like it happened in the Slack groups. |
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Crap.
I also saw it on the official announcement channel.
That was the only way to interact with the team as they don't really come here unless to post a link to a new story but actually participating in a conversation on bitcointalk doesn't happen.
Or am I wrong about that?
I am pretty sure they respond to every query via twitter, faceboook, telegram or email so ..... no, open chats are actually the worse way of interacting with the team. There is too much "noise". If I had a question I would just ask them. |
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So new roadmap is out, what do you think? Let's be honest, I was expeting those dates, a company can't set up legal and liquidity things in just a couple of month. I can surely wait, better if they take time to make things right
True. Timing is normal. And let's not forget they initially had planned for 8 MM USD budget and they cut to 3MM USD to benefit the token holders with that extra USD 5 Million. I have not seen any other ICO company doing the same and I see some people here being unreasonable. |
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