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In a few years when this shit makes some IPO valuated at 5~10 bln USD 160 mln USD will be trully ridiculous

If any day BTC price goes sufficiently low, I will make an offer, which may count from now on if you want, to buy all of them for the price of 1 USD.

So the minimum price will be, at most, 1/21000000 USD, but never zero.

The problem with bitcoins are not the hoarders, spending bitcoin like idiots will not change it and make bitcoin become mainstream. What bitcoin needs is easier ways to convert it quickly into fiat money, which is which most people care about nowadays, regardless if you like it or not. If someone who has never heard of bitcoin wants to buy bitcoin today he or she must register in some exchange, send documents, wait confirmation, send deposit, wait confirmation, buy it, and transfer to the wallet. If someone wants to sell it, it is even worse, because the person must also do all this and hope for the money to arrive to his bank account. The real "bottleneck" of the bitcoin economy relies on 2 or 3 big exchanges which all the connection fiat-crypto happens, added to a few spare ATM around the world where people can at most buy bitcoin for a price much above the spot. Take gold for example. People hoard gold, banks probably are storaging a huge fraction of all the gold, but this does not matter to make gold "mainstream", because gold can be bought and sold easily around the world, which is not the case of bitcoin today. You may love bitcoin and have a thousand reasons to defend it like I do, but you all must admit that there is no practical way to trade (and when I say trade it is buy AND sell) bitcoins today and to make it worse one of the biggest exchanges just went bankrupt weeks ago. You may come and give me thousands of small bitcoins business that allow people to trade them quickly (I particularlly don't know any, but I suppose they exist) but that's still the problem - they are small, no one knows them, and that's why bitcoin is still unable to "break its shell". This shell will be broken the day I can buy and sell it quickly and with a huge depth on the buy and sell side.

There may be fractional reserve money and there is no reason to worry. The difference, when it exists, between real money and fractional reserve money will be clear, because either you have bitcoins in an andress that only you have access or you don't. Bitcoin notes or digits in some bitcoin bank account will not be bitcoin and everyone with basic knowledge will be able do deduce this. The problem today is exactly the fact that this distinction between "real money" and "fractional reserve generated money" is not clear because there is no such thing as a the bitcoin protocol, adresses, private keys, etc for fiat money and because there are central banks to act as lender of last resort, which does not exist in bitcoin.

Switzerland
Australia
New Zeland
Canada
Ireland

in that order

i want them at $10 so I can buy like a thousand BTC

I am pretty sure that if they actually knew how bitcoins works they could easily find someone who could do the "favor" of exchanging $ 7M for, let's say, $ 5M worth of BTC and then in Panama another big guy to buy these $ 5 M for, let's say, $ 4M, and then you have almost half of your money with 0% chance of getting caught.

Either the country has an exchange for local currency itself (which will probably work) or you transfer from USD/EUR exchange to your country (which probably will not work).

Yet some people see us, the "ordinary investors", as desperate and "in a hurry". That's all we have got so far, and moreover, it is 1 month today from the last update, and what we have got? Not a single word.


Exactly. It will be a big surprise if we have something really functional working properly in February of this year, as it was stated early several times. As I said, I would love to be surprised, I just don't expect that is it going to happen, based in all we have seen so far.


Ya, I am not saying it is bad, but that's all. As for the "subscribe" being hidden, don't worry, even if you register, you will not receive anything. We have no news of what is going on, nor anything about what is going to be going on. The last "concrete" thing we had to happen was the launch of NeoEasycoin "prior to 31 december" or "January 1st", which did not happen. Now the only next thing we know is that "Neo will be launching in February". Based on what has been happening so far, what do I think it is going to happen? It will be 28 February, and we will have some "last minute technical problems" which will delay the launch in 1-3 weeks (and in the 4th week, after days of silence, someone will tell us that "next week we will be updated). But that is no problem, because we will have a website to register to their newsletter, which, of course, will never send us anything.

I have read, don't worry. I am just expressing my concerns regarding the given deadlines and the progress of the business even with the reply given being considered. And thanks God not only I can do that (express myself), but it is free.

Exactly, that is what I mean. Based on what we have been receiving of information so far and the way things are going (there are delays, Mr. Danny Brewster can't just deny that. Easycoin was supposed to be ready for 31 dec/1jan and it is not, the declaration that "it was ready on the deadline" is like saying "teacher, I have done my homework but I forgot it at home"), I highly doubt there will be a website properly functioning at February for this business, it is much more likely that will have just another simple website with a space to "register to receive news" (where you do not receive any news), the logos and the youtube video. I would love to be surprised, but I do not think it is going to happen.

So, according to OP and some of you guys, if BTC is massively adopted under this "accept BTC and sells it for USD" system, the price will collapse. Suppose more and more companies start accepting it, the price will go down more and more, lets say 10 USD each. Then, any company willing to do a 210 mln USD transaction would be able to buy all existing BTC (because in your guys logic the part where the buyer must buy the bitcoins so the company may dump it is simply forgotten
 Yeah, the part where most bitcoins anyone holds now were bought and not mined - they are not the "first owners", that is what I mean - is ignored.). Pratically all coins spent and later "dumped" will have to be bought for USD from someone who did the same. The amount of "first spenders" relatively to the rest will become less and less relevant in terms of volume to a point where all coins must be bought for USD before being "dumped", which will annulate this effect (when I say USD it can be any other currency), unless people start holding BTC (the amount that can be mined is limited, so at a certain point you either bought them or earned them by other means than mining), which will drive price UP, and not down. The conclusion that mass adoption followed by currency convertion leads to a collapse in its value leads to this absurd conclusion: if increasing adoption reduces price, then we will certainly arrive to a point where an individual or a group can buy all of them. But how can that happen in a mass adoption environment? Who would sell "the last BTC"?
 

So, it has been almost a month from the last update. So far, not only we didn't have any major announcement, we have no annoucement at all. The big merchant? Nothing. Easycoin? Well, it is 9 january, and the only news was "technical problems that would delay it in 7-10 days". News about conferences with authorities? None. Any other relevant information? No. This is starting to get weird, investors don't get any news regarding a company that is supposedely working on very relevant issues regarding its future, yet all deadlines given are always delayed (weexchange issue, easycoin, big merchant, the last update, etc) and there is simply no information out there. Not only here, but nowhere else.

so, when any word regarding "EasyCoin" will be given?

Ok, that is certainly not great news, but I still think an update should have been given (anyway it is "late" now). I hope this service starts working fine in the next days and/or the silence is broken at least, for bad or for good news.

This thread is pratically dead. After NEO-PR said this is not a thread for upcoming news or whatever, not only news didn't come here anymore but also in no other place. Expect only questions regarding people that somehow did not yet transfer their shares (and at this point probably lost them) and questions that will not be answered. Nothing against not using this thread for news but the silence everywhere at this point of the development of the company is just disturbing.

So, will there be an update regarding the launching of this service? I have posted in the other thread but was obviously ignored, so I hope here I get some answer. The last update had a lot news which we hadn't here anything more detailed since then, and we shareholders remain ignored (conference/public presentation? referral program? central bank of cyprus position on bitcoin? easycoin lauching?). You must understand that it is perfectly plausible for us to demand and be eager for new information regarding this company and its services for a thousand reasons. We do our best to comprehend that you are "working hard and nonstop" in this project yet we want to be up to date with the steps you are taking and the deadlines you have given.

Didn't even know there was a thread. But well, there is still not much information. The website easyco.in just shows up some registration window for joining their "newsletter". My question goes more towards the possibility of actually buying BTC/LTC next days through the site.

any update regarding easycoin?