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yeah, so price will rise, then they will dump it all on us.
I don't believe neither JPMorgan or GS.
And as long as it will not appear on first pages of newspapers, and as long as media are not providing good narration for bitcoin - we should take it with big distance.
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Is there any chance that when the corona virus appears, some scientists have discovered the antidote of the virus itself so that there is an element of intention regarding the spread of the corona virus because there is a business element in it so that the antidote for the corona virus is sought after by many people, this is like a film about spreading viruses that can kill and destroy the economy globally. what do you think about this?
not really, virus is real and it is a problem, the panic around it is waaaay too big and artificial, and before there were created any reasonable research and plans to solve situation, big money already started using situation and forced countries to overreact and panic. example from my country: - selling mask was prohibited, then it was released when gov related people started to import them and selling - most virus medicines were either prohibited or a lot news appeared that those are not safe to use (somehow for more than 10 years it was on market and used widely without problems) - for some reason when social group starts protesting, our government is finding out that tests were wrong and a lot of infections appears among this social group - now for example miners. - country is preparing help strategies for business that when you actually read small print on it, you will find that it is way to take over those business and so on. Virus is real, political and economic situation is artificial and is using virus to force regulations you would never accept without pandemy. |
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I support Trump in this matter.
In my opinion, the WHO is very much into politics, which is categorically unacceptable for this kind of organization.
In fact, if you look at the history of the Coronavirus outbreak in China, it is clear that WHO did not give the correct risk assessments and recommendations for controlling the virus.
Like how it is into politics? WHO done what it is supposed to do. All economic and political choices were done by politicians, like closing for example USA borders based on one call from one broker. So blame politicians. Trump is person who is making a call to random person (based on subscription amount of this person social media) about his beliefs and theories, asking if what he is saying is true, if person answers yes for Trump it is enough, seriously you trust such person? And in some magic way we have again UK-USA institutions involved into economic and social situation. The ones that make wrong statistical assumptions and wrongly tested virus. Magic. You want what? WHO to predict future? What do you expect? If WHO would act differently and virus would be actually seriously lethal, then Trump and you would have also full back of claims. but the issue lies partially in the fact that the WHO is just a helpful intermediary between countries in sharing information.
It is intermediary between science centers and governments, those science centers are paid and controlled by governments, those are driven by lobbies. Currently we have obvious situation how to make mistakes in papers so some people and insititutions can make their "big shorts" and longs. Whole thing is rather on how one can make strategical influence on single persons and small units to shape global situation. |
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"Why people are afraid on investing to bitcoin?"
Go to any portal that have opened comments and read them:
- earth is flat
- vaccines kills people
- 5g spreads coronavirus
- bitcoin is used by north korea and mafia to laundry money and backup nuclear weapon programs
Then you want to invest, you are opening your bank account and want to transfer money to exchange - and guess what "suspicious transfer has been blocked, please contact with us if you have any questions".
So I have to make some combinations to transfer my money from my account to any kind of crypto exchange.
Because all my banks do not allow me to do that, official explanation is "because those accounts are used for criminal activities and money laundering" (yes - this is official statement of my bank)
Seriously, last weeks I have same trouble with using revolut, so imagine how normal person that do not have knowledge may react. And people with $1kk are not different they simply have more money by luck or by being good is some particular area of life - it doesn't mean they are smarter or good in other areas.
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So my hints: Dan Fabulich - specialized in biomedical engineering and philosophy, Satoshi Nakamoto is japan scientist in biology, Nakamoto is also a japan philosopher. Additionally there is a lot of papers about cryptography and similar where papers of David Chaum are nearby papers of S.N. also Satoshi is popular word and I've found few times that such articles like "Impact of Artificial "Gummy" Fingers on Fingerprint Systems" are next to cryptocurrency and decentralized economy papers. Also there are multiple references to "she" - IMO: Sarah Flannery. So in my opinion, people related at least in philosophy to David Chaum created this person in some very private mailing list, took almost random name, like Satoshi Nakamoto cause someone had his paper opened to read (in addition Tominaga Nakamoto philosophy is related to BTC). It is especially interesting that David Chaum didn't liked the idea that one person - initiator - can become rich, like become lord of the world with unlimited resources. In the end all of them decided that they will never use first bitcoins.   pro hint: if you are searching mailing list archives for such things like interpunction, double spaces etc, dont check emails - most are altered, check those emails how they looks like in replies quotations. |
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ask yourselves - "back in 2010-2017 would I believe that BTC will reach 20k?"
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I was reading my chats with friend from 2009, 2010, 2011 - I was like "bitcoin is temporary thing" while he was "it is awesome it has bright future". In 2010 thinking about bitcoin that 10K-20K is real and will be almost reached quite soon was crazy, no one believed.
Yeah, it can easily reach 100k, now jp morgan accepted BTC - two years ago it was hard to imagine, crypto is best performing asset - hard to imagine few years ago, even biggest sceptics accepts btc as real asset now, brrr brrr printing, etc.
But! I've seen and gone through situation when bread price was doubled day to day, when at beginning of month something costs 1000 of local currency, at the end it was 12000, at the end of year we all were millionaires.
So imagine when bread will costs 10k USD, BTC can be priced in billions.
If you add all factors, BTC can easily reach such prices and will probably do. It is only around 20% of gold market cap.
Right now I already forgot about USD - I am using BTC/AU ratio - cause I have this strange feeling that history will repeat and we all will become millionaires sooner or later.
ahh yeah and govs has this funny kind of behaviour - all my savings where not denominated, while all my loans where, so - 10k of savings stayed 10k, and 10k of loans become 10kk.
And one more thing:
stocks are rising and money are printed - I've seen it before, inflation were artificially kept on low level for year or so, then it exploded and then it was clear that stocks were not rising but currency value was falling much much faster than stocks (but gov and banks game was keeping it invisible for society - looks like conspiracy theory but it was like that in 90's).
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Yes, I think it is just a bubble. Its price has fallen down quickly. Investors still more believe Bitcoin than Bitcoin cash
What do you mean by "fallen down quickly"? 250% higher than month ago? Or what? Is it highly manipulated - seems it was for a moment, now it is stable. It is rather not a bubble.  |
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I understand your point, but this rise in such little time is very suspicious. Also does not explain, why BCH went from $2,800 to $1,500 in 30 minutes, when korean exchanges were down. No pumps were possible.  Probably DDoS attack on mayor Korean exchanges that were down twice last 24hours, otherwise trend would continue and most probably will continue soon. Same happend on bittrex - there was a gap, bittrex hanged and suddenly price dropped |
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No it is not an expensive price. You see it now staying at $1400 when all the haters and ppl where talking about $820 max $1000, people in panic are selling and price is steady. Meanwhile in next weeks BTC can fall to $5000 in correction. Yesterday I predicted that it wil jump above ETH and get 30 bln cap. Do you seriously think so huge money will just dump? When companies are seriously looking for easy migration from BTC to alternatives and it seems BCH is exactly solution for now. It will hit $2000 once again today, or in next 12 hours. Am I 100% sure - no - I may be wrong, but I am still holding and accumulating even with huge profits I've already made. Meanwhile people who for example believe that electroneum can get 100x, are telling you that BCH will crash... BTW about FUD https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7cfseg/right_now_there_is_a_deliberate_false_narrative/ |
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I did my research and I still do not understand, if you do not know how
to explain move on, do not wrote this nonsense`s. Now price is not $800
it is $1528, and you are telling me that is normal?
What you do not understand? Panic about BTC problems and searching alternatives? A tons of articles talking about this, some companies talking about moving with a huge numbers of users to BCH and/or LTC? You didn't do any research. of course it isn't over, using my tumb rule I can say it will get 30 000 000 000 capital before monday
told'ya |
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IMHO still two pumps before us
What makes you say this? Whales would like to get money back. |
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IMHO still two pumps before us
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Sure it can kill BTC.
Why do I think so? Because for few days we are reading a lot of things that we were able to read about BTC and other successful coins not so long time ago.
"it will die after 24 hours"
"it is scam"
"it is pump and dump"
"I dont trust it"
and so on
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Is it bug or is it from future?   |
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Can someone explain to me how BCH cost now $1300 and few days ago price
was $300?
BCH is here from August and some of you think that this new alt-coin can replace
bitcoin so soon?
I do not understand this rise, only thing that comes to my mind is manipulation,
manipulation with supply and demand. Who is buying BCH on this price, I read what
people wrote here every day, but I did not see many posts about buying BCH, who
are this people then? Where the money comes from?
There are some problems with scalbility with BTC, a tons of articles where produced last few days, meanwhile BCH is copy of BTC, with some optimisations. Do your research. |
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It is not over but it is a huge warning to the bitcoin and its community that bitcoin could be easily replaced. There will be always some kind of threats to the bitcoin. I wish I could cash out some of it but I only have a limited amount.
of course it isn't over, using my tumb rule I can say it will get 30 000 000 000 capital before monday |
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With the obvious pump of Bitcoin Cash, one must think that is really the best alts after Bitcoin. However, I don't see it replacing bitcoin. This is just a temporary shift and sooner or later miners, traders will go back to bitcoin market and so its dominance will continue. If you have other choice then you might as well get ETH and hold it for long term. I don't see in the next to 5-20 years that will challenge bitcoin's dominance.
IMHO It will be some sort of alternative, for sure it will jump to #2 soon over eth, I think 50 000 000 000 mcap is real |
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