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I can't believe this coin has gone unnoticed, what are your thoughts on this? The coin is called Render Token. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/render-token/Currently trading at 0.07 USD, with 91 million tokens it is ONLY 6.3 million market cap Check out their website - https://rendertoken.comCheck their advisors, it includes JJ Abrams (Yes, the guy who directed STAR TREK and STAR WARS movies), Ari Emanuel (The Hollywood mogul on whom Ari Gold of 'Entourage' TV series is based and is the owner of UFC) and Brendan Eich of Brave/BAT. This is an article written by Ari Emanuel about the RNDR token - https://medium.com/@ArielEmanuel/this-is-life-after-television-de59539d9100From the article - "Since then, Jules and I have been building a system for the future. It will all be built on RNDR. We have lined up and signed deals with all of the major media companies from Disney and HBO to Facebook and Unity. LightStages will be built at our WME offices for blockchain based scans of all our clients and athletes. I am driving media to go through the Render Token network." The token has real utility - "The Render Network™, through the use of RNDR™ tokens, is the first network to transform the power of GPU compute into a decentralized economy of connected 3D assets. OTOY’s vision is to distribute the framework of the existing rendering service in OctaneRender® using RNDR, a digital token built on the Ethereum blockchain. The Render Network is designed to connect users looking to perform render jobs with people who have idle GPUs to process the renders. Owners would connect their GPUs to the Render Network in order to receive and complete rendering jobs using OctaneRender. Users would send RNDR to the individual performing the render work and OTOY would receive a small percentage of RNDR for facilitating the transaction and running the Render Network." Their parent company OTOY is a big player when it comes to rendering for cinema and games for a decade now. The coin has very good utility and is similar to Chainlink (LINK) in rewarding the node/network operators. Coinbase is planning to list this! Here's the article - https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-continues-to-explore-support-for-new-digital-assets-2c5b84813fcfThe project is live, and already delivering renders. Check this out - https://vimeo.com/rendertokenJust check out a few of these videos to see how incredible the tech is. |
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I'm talking about STOX.
Yes, the coin that billionaire boxer shilled during the ICO.
STOX had a market cap of around 8 million USD earlier this week. It more than DOUBLED the past couple of days to 18 million USD. And this was real utility purchases, not a speculative pump. See below.
They announced a prediction competition -
"When will the 1st goal be scored on the Final" referring to the football world cup.
To enter the prediction you need to stake minimum 1000 STOX, and winner takes all!
As of now 36 people have bet 87,800 STOX (hence the price rise, the buys to stake for this single prediction!)
87800 out of a circulating supply of ~45,750,000
Which is 0.19% of the circulating supply.
All for ONE bet.
Imagine the possibilities when it opens up its doors and launches for real time predictions.
Check out how beautiful their UI is in comparison to AUGUR (REP). Check out the simplicity.
Just go to stox.com check out all the above. See the token utility and how undervalued it is.
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Once the main net is launched, HODLing VEN will generate THOR, just like holding NEO in a wallet generates GAS. GAS typically trades at 1/3rd the price of NEO.
Without doubt it's a good long hold.
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Hello, the cars look gorgeous.
Is there any gamification or are the cars just the render image? When you say garage can we look into the interiors of the car the engine etc. - how does it work? Also is there a time limit for the supply or you'll keep them on until they get sold?
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Guys - I have a serious concern about electroneum and I hope someone will answer this.
I like the idea of marketing through an app and making it viral to bring it to the masses - I don't know how likely it'll be successful and wish the app would have been available to investors to try out because that seems to be electroneum's USP.
The reason I haven't invested in this is -
(1) I haven't seen the app
(2) If the idea is to make this viral a lot of people are going to get cheap/almost free coins and there's going to be a huge dump in the market bringing the value of investors in the ICO down.
(3) Most of the initial budget seems to be geared towards app marketing and development - hardly anything for customer acquisition (I mean 'use case' customers, not app customers) - which will give electroneum ultimately its value
If this is marketed virally and people start to dump people will start to lose faith in it. I hope I'm mistaken and there is an immediate use case solution to drive up the value which will in it's own way encourage viral marketing further since it will drive up value of the coin.
Also, is there any difference between the coin itself seems to be very similar to aeon.cash, I would be interested in knowing the differences. Aeon also markets itself as a mobile friendly cryptocurrency and it is also based on the Cryptonote algorithm.
1. The app is available 2. If millions of users seem like a dis-advantage to you, maybe you are looking at it through a short term lense? This is a serious long term project. 3. Well, #3 is simply incorrect in its assumptions. I dont follow the logic to even explain where you went wrong there. Lets not shill other coins Deep breaths Blackwidow  Please Hi contraband, appreciate the straightforward replies, which is why we have anns in forums like this, so investors can reach out to devs/team and get their doubts cleared. I'll check out the app - this is the app mining game that's the focus for getting viral correct? Is it available on the istore? Regarding point number 2 - It's not that I'm looking at it from a short term lens, I'm just deciding whether I should invest in the ICO now or buy it from an exchange later. If there is an upside to buying into the ICO I would like to know - because with the current developments it looks like I would get more value when this hits exchanges. Either way as of now I intend to contribute. Regarding point number 3 - unless a coin possesses inherent use value - for example people buy ethers to invest in ICOs; this is a use value for ethers, and this drives the price of ethers up. In the case of electroneum, there seems to be a lot of focus into viral marketing and mining, which means lot of coins being out there with probably only speculative value, and no inherent use value. In the white paper there are mentions of intent of targeting gaming and gambling sectors as use cases but no further details, and it seems to me it will take a long time for inherent use value to be built up. My personal analysis is that this is a good project, with a good team, but with a long way to go so I believe I would get more value investing later on rather than the ICO, unless the devs can elaborate otherwise. And most white papers / ico websites have comparisons of similar concepts and competitors, I was wondering if there is a differentiation between electroneum and aeon; I have no investment in aeon but it seems to be similar. I certainly hope mentioning another coin is not shilling. |
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Guys - I have a serious concern about electroneum and I hope someone will answer this.
I like the idea of marketing through an app and making it viral to bring it to the masses - I don't know how likely it'll be successful and wish the app would have been available to investors to try out because that seems to be electroneum's USP.
The reason I haven't invested in this is -
(1) I haven't seen the app
(2) If the idea is to make this viral a lot of people are going to get cheap/almost free coins and there's going to be a huge dump in the market bringing the value of investors in the ICO down.
(3) Most of the initial budget seems to be geared towards app marketing and development - hardly anything for customer acquisition (I mean 'use case' customers, not app customers) - which will give electroneum ultimately its value
If this is marketed virally and people start to dump people will start to lose faith in it. I hope I'm mistaken and there is an immediate use case solution to drive up the value which will in it's own way encourage viral marketing further since it will drive up value of the coin.
Also, is there any difference between the coin itself seems to be very similar to aeon.cash, I would be interested in knowing the differences. Aeon also markets itself as a mobile friendly cryptocurrency and it is also based on the Cryptonote algorithm.
Electroneum can't be sold for 12 months is what I read. But you can mine and buy in November. there was a video of electroneum stating this too. I believe a lot of people who've invested in electroneum and replied to this thread would be looking to do short term trades - and if what you say is true a lot of people are going to be disappointed and frustrated. Has the elctroneum team disclosed this upfront on their website and/or white paper? Short term trading is extremely important to keep visibility and interest in the coin. Liquidity is a big concern for token holders and is one of the cornerstones of cryptocurrencies. |
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Guys - I have a serious concern about electroneum and I hope someone will answer this.
I like the idea of marketing through an app and making it viral to bring it to the masses - I don't know how likely it'll be successful and wish the app would have been available to investors to try out because that seems to be electroneum's USP.
The reason I haven't invested in this is -
(1) I haven't seen the app
(2) If the idea is to make this viral a lot of people are going to get cheap/almost free coins and there's going to be a huge dump in the market bringing the value of investors in the ICO down.
(3) Most of the initial budget seems to be geared towards app marketing and development - hardly anything for customer acquisition (I mean 'use case' customers, not app customers) - which will give electroneum ultimately its value
If this is marketed virally and people start to dump people will start to lose faith in it. I hope I'm mistaken and there is an immediate use case solution to drive up the value which will in it's own way encourage viral marketing further since it will drive up value of the coin.
Also, is there any difference between the coin itself seems to be very similar to aeon.cash, I would be interested in knowing the differences. Aeon also markets itself as a mobile friendly cryptocurrency and it is also based on the Cryptonote algorithm.
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I do not feel as strongly as you do on this matter but I too have similar thoughts. When Hshare showed up at 1 billion and top 10 marketcap that also scared me and was like wait where did this come from? Now look where
Yes, I noticed the same too. Have you seen HShare's list of investors? Quite notable other than Bitmain is Citic; Citic is a Chinese state owned corporation with a dubious history of forex trading. This coin is quite likely to be highly centralised and I won't be surprised if it is affected by wild swings. Also, still too premature in its development for its valuation. A lot of traders are going to buy into this and lose money. I really appreciate threads like these because they fairly express feelings without trying to be hostile. The reality is that Cardano has been an ongoing project since mid-2015 in one capacity or another and only recently did the initial participants have a chance to exercise liquidity. The price didn't suddenly go up exponentially due to a big pump rather it was a reflection that two years of progress have occurred from setting up research centers to developing the core client since the last price signal.
Finally there original market was scoped to Asia and now a much larger set of people are considering Cardano. It's reasonable to assume a dramatic shift and lots of volatility.
Hi Charles, kind of you to reply - delightfully surprised to see you here! However I don’t think the market played a role in the pricing, traders were and are mislead. Which isn’t really too difficult to do. When launched on Bittrex the price of ADA coin was arbitrarily anchored at a much higher price to establish higher trading levels than it would have if done fairly. I don't know if Bittrex or Cardano is responsible for this. I think Cardano has a lot of things going well for it and could have fairly reached these heights maybe with a little more time, but instances such as this really makes a lot of us lose trust - one of the cornerstones of decentralisation is to ensure a powerful exchange or crypto elite do not manipulate pricing; if so we may as well as have banks and governments shelling us coins. |
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I’m not a cryptographer, mathematician or a coder. I can’t review or comprehend Cardano’s open source and ‘patent-free’ code. I can’t gauge if it’s truly evolutionarily groundbreaking since it yet needs to be used and openly reviewed by the community, not just a select few from the elite scientific / cryptographic house of lords.
Which is why probably when I went through Cardano’s website and documents it caught my interest – it hit all the right notes! ‘First crypto in highly secure Haskell, industrial strength’, ‘unit of account settlement layer, control layer for smart contracts’, ‘geared towards privacy protection rights of users, also taking into account needs of regulators’, ‘can evolve and adapt quickly without schisms by way of soft forks’, 'multi-purpose modular and flexible proof of stake Ouroboros', ‘airtight democratically governed blockchain model’ are just a few conspicuously outstanding statements.
Charles Hoskinson, CEO of IOHK – someone I admire (his Udemy course on bitcoin was one of my early researches into crypto) – tends to be politically correct which is good in the crypto sphere.
However when you wake up in the morning and see a half a billion dollar market cap ADA coin just jump in, launched on Bittrex - a highly reputable exchange at what I presume is over 10x the ICO price, you actually begin to wonder if Jamie Dimon and the other crypto-naysayers have a point.
Seeing as Cardano has some of the most respected members of the crypto-community, with a history of being through the ups and more importantly the downs; you’d think they’d take care while launching onto a prominent exchange, because when half a billion dollars appear overnight at exponential pricing, people are going to lose money and get hurt. And calling them plebes who have to do their due diligence isn’t something that’s expected from such leaders of the community.
The space is unregulated and needs responsible leaders and community members alike, or else we continue to raise red flags to bodies like the SEC, have more China like ICO refunds, and lot of people losing faith in something as revolutionary and disruptive as blockchain and cryptonougat.
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Link certainly seems to be a promising technology that is needed, however 150 mill for what seems to be a team of two? They've won a competition to show PoC to Swift to their credit, other than this proof of concept they don't seem to have anything working at the moment.
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Lisk is planning to (other than providing blockchain as a service and allowing creation of side chains onto Lisk's main blockchain) launch an ICO platform for which you do not need coding to deploy smart contracts, and this is going to make it much easier for smart contract based businesses & ICOs to come up. So Lisk is essentially planning to bring many aspects of ethereum to the masses.
OMG is planning to launch an interoperable wallet platform, where everything with value can be transferred and exchanged, fiat, crypto, etc., payment wallets and gateways working in different countries can be connected. People can also launch their own wallets on this platform for payments.
Lisk is certainly undervalued at this time and will likely see a bump when they rebrand (should happen soon) and more people actually understand what Lisk does, but both would be good investments - both will still grow quite a lot more.
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How is this different from Aeon? It's also based on Cryptonote.
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In my opinion, Civic is one of the most undervalued coins in the market today. Digital identity management and security is going to be massive - not just because of blockchain and cryptocurrencies, but because of progress in the digital age and artificial intelligence.
Civic has an excellent team, a strong well respected (even though sometimes unnecessarily vocal) leader, a proven working platform, and an early start being a prime mover, already have a good number of relationships and customers.
Take your call.
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Tier 4 Queue 1 - ongoing.
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Hello, I've been whitelisted and sent some ethers, I believe my limit is not over, can I send over some more? Or will a 2nd transaction be rejected?
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Centra and TenX are certainly the top two.
Both have received excellent funding, and have good teams, and have working cards / cards ready to market.
If you're planning on getting cards alone, get both.
If you're planning on investing long term, split your investment. TenX prices have fallen so it is a good time to spend on it.
If you're planning to invest short term, I'd say put all your money on Centra. They have a working card which they're distributing, and have generated enough hype for their ICO for it to get sold out quickly, which means there will be demand - which will lead to a price boost.
This is not investment advice, just my observations.
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Hi Adam, Neo gets its value primarily as a platform for launching ICOs. It will be at least a couple of months before China gets back on the bandwagon - and brings about regulations for ICOs. I'm sure they won't abandon / ban ICOs and exchange trading for long or they'll get left out or drive their citizens to putting money outside the country - that's the strength of p2p, but the situation right now isn't good for Neo. The reason it has stuck at 20$ value right now is that there's a lot of 'speculators faith' on Neo, and no real value as I see it. Unless there are other ICOs that would prefer to launch on Neo's platform rather than Ethereum (no signs of this however) don't expect much.
I would suggest if you find a good potential alternate buy then liquidate your Neo for now, so at least that will grow in value. Or if you are willing to hodl for long, do it, but there will be long term uncertainty here - so be aware of this if you take this call.
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They seem to be offering what Centra / TenX / Monaco (debit cards / spending cryptos everywhere) and Everex / OmiseGO / AirToken (finance / micro finance) and LAToken / Real (investments into real estate, shares etc.)
Seem to be wanting to do too many things which have already been done multiple times (by icos who seem to be more focused), they don't have a working product, and they are asking for 55 million US$ plus in the ico - which brings to a market cap of 110 million US$ plus at the ICO stage!
On top of this the young partners run other businesses, so I don't know how dedicated they'll be to this. The founder seems to be enterprising but this is his fourth business. They've tied up with other companies who if you study are also startups without a track record. They seem to have a good strategic advisor in the form of Ex-DHL global head and some good publicity but my opinion is they are trying to do a lot, without a track record in the sector and without focus, and they're doing things which lot of other players in the crypto space already have a head start in.
If they meet the hard cap I won't be surprised if the price dips post ICO when it hits exchanges.
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