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Here is a little preview of what will be included in the next development release. As in the previous development release, you will be able to add your own algorithms that's new on zpool for example. Now you can also add your own Managed Software and specify that it has full compatibility with any supported software, but with a different set of algorithms. In the example below, I've defined a custom CcMiner 2.2, which includes other algorithms than CcMiner 2.1, but is defined to be fully compatible with CcMiner in all other aspects.  In the second screenshot, I've included the custom CcMiner 2.2 to the profit switcher, and put it on top to indicate that if an algorithm is supported by both CcMiner 2.2 and 2.1, it will pick the software for 2.2.  With these changes, the profit switcher becomes more flexible. The Managed Software concept can of course be used without the profit switching feature as well, and will allow you to define multiple versions of CcMiner and other mining software. You can also defined Managed Software to run in API Compatibility Mode instead of Full Compatibility Mode. In API mode, you will have to define all command lines yourself - Awesome Miner will do nothing for you. The idea is to support full customization, but still get monitoring information about hashrates and so on. Like a Generic Miner in terms of flexibility, but with monitoring and statistics available. That's great! looking forward to trying this release |
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Not sure if i've missed this in the thread but is there a walkthrough of;
a) adding a customer miner e.g. ccminer 2.2
b) adding a new algo to profit switching using said custom miner
Cheers, apologies if i've missed it.
a) If it's not a profit switching scenario: If you open the properties of your Managed Miner, you will see that Automatic download is enabled by default. In this scenario, Awesome Miner will download and setup the mining software for you, in this case ccminer 2.1. If you change to Specify Path manually instead, you can point to your ccminer 2.2 executable instead, and Awesome Miner will use this one. If you need to do this on multiple computers, you can also use this feature to push the ccminer 2.2 software to all of them: http://awesomeminer.com/help/uploadsoftware.aspxb) For profit switching scenario: Instead of configuring each Managed Miner like this, you define similar settings for you Profit profile. Go to Options dialog, Profit profile section, modify the profile you use, for example nVidia GPU, select ccminer and click Configure. Now you have the same option to change from Automatic download to specifying your own software path where you can point to another version of ccminer. After having tried hard to do this for a while here is my understanding: You can add a custom miner and you can add a custom algo, however using them for profit switching with a custom coin is not possible. Adding a new algo is not useful for profit switching because any custom coin that goes with the new algo does not update its difficulty/price/block_reward One possibility is profit switching (among hardcoded coins only) by replacing the original ccminer with a custom ccminer, but then you have totally lost the use of the original ccminer for all algos. So your new ccminer better be superior to the original ccminer for all the coins you're mining So yes custom miner/algo/coins are possible but if your goal is to input a new coin, enter the hash rate of the new algo, point it to a custom ccminer and have it in the profit switching mix you can't do it. Would that be correct Patrike? please confirm. Another issue is, even if you're OK with using the custom ccminer for all coins and you're OK with manually updating difficulty/price/block_reward for the new coin regularly, it is still not useful for profit switching because you may only specify one global hash rate for the new algo for all your rigs. So assuming your rigs are not identical, the hash rate will be incorrect for all but one rig. Therefore profit switching that new coin, even with the above restrictions, would be pointless for more than one rig. I've made some improvements in this area in the development version 3.2.1. See the following post for more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676942.msg20341208#msg20341208With the new version, you can add your own algorithms, and then add it for zpool and you will get profitability information. However, if you add a new coin that Awesome Miner cannot find, you will not get any automatic profit information. The concept you describe about having support for multiple versions of ccminer for the profit switcher is the next step for me to implement. This has been requested a lot recently. Great, I appreciate your effort to address these issues. I'm using 3.2.1 and it has good improvements but having to use zpool to get coin info is not ideal for various reasons, also zpool does not cover most coins. Its not really zpool that the software is getting the info from, its whattomine that most of it is pulled from, so the limitations fall on the use of that website as the source data. I hope the dev adds the ability to add new coins in the future and give us the ability to add our own api url links for the data being pulled for the coins. This would allow massive customization on being able to add new coins and maintain a good correct profit number, because there is are dozens of websites to pull these api sources from on the day of release for each coin.. The method that Patrike prosposed above for profit switching would require zpool to pull the info (by using "unspecified xx algo" as the coin) If you wanted to use whattomine (that has many times the number of zpool coins) you cannot currently add any of their covered coins that are not already hard coded in AM for profit switching as of 3.2.1 But I definitely agree it would be a great improvement to have option to add coins through api url or at least start by allowing all current whattomine coins to be recognized For WhatToMine.com and Coinwarz.com, there are no hardcoded coins in Awesome Miner. It uses the coins API of these services to get all available coins. The drawback is that several of the new coins that are listed here: http://whattomine.com/calculatorsare not returned by the WhatToMine API. I've contacted the author of WhatToMine about this to find a solution for it. As soon as they are returned by WhatToMine, they will appear in Awesome Miner. Is AM using an API call to whattomine that returns all the coins together but without several newer coins? Because if you click on any of these newer coins on the link you post above and add .json to the url you do get the info. Like this one for example: http://http://whattomine.com/coins/65-adn-scrypt-og.jsonAnd the url for each of the coins seem to be standardized so that the symbol is always between the first and the second dash There is also currently this issue: If you try to add a coin to a pool and that coin can be mined with a few different algos AM will only list the coin under just one of the algos which is not necessarily the most profitable one. That makes profit switching incorrect for that coin. The page you mentioned above ( http://whattomine.com/calculators) lists those multi-algo coins as separate coins with different diffculties and different profitabilities. This one for example: http://whattomine.com/coins/115-dgb-qubithttp://whattomine.com/coins/114-dgb-skeinhttp://whattomine.com/coins/112-dgb-myriad-groestlhttp://whattomine.com/coins/113-dgb-sha-256It would be great if we can get these multi-algo coins listed under each one of their algos |
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Not sure if i've missed this in the thread but is there a walkthrough of;
a) adding a customer miner e.g. ccminer 2.2
b) adding a new algo to profit switching using said custom miner
Cheers, apologies if i've missed it.
a) If it's not a profit switching scenario: If you open the properties of your Managed Miner, you will see that Automatic download is enabled by default. In this scenario, Awesome Miner will download and setup the mining software for you, in this case ccminer 2.1. If you change to Specify Path manually instead, you can point to your ccminer 2.2 executable instead, and Awesome Miner will use this one. If you need to do this on multiple computers, you can also use this feature to push the ccminer 2.2 software to all of them: http://awesomeminer.com/help/uploadsoftware.aspxb) For profit switching scenario: Instead of configuring each Managed Miner like this, you define similar settings for you Profit profile. Go to Options dialog, Profit profile section, modify the profile you use, for example nVidia GPU, select ccminer and click Configure. Now you have the same option to change from Automatic download to specifying your own software path where you can point to another version of ccminer. After having tried hard to do this for a while here is my understanding: You can add a custom miner and you can add a custom algo, however using them for profit switching with a custom coin is not possible. Adding a new algo is not useful for profit switching because any custom coin that goes with the new algo does not update its difficulty/price/block_reward One possibility is profit switching (among hardcoded coins only) by replacing the original ccminer with a custom ccminer, but then you have totally lost the use of the original ccminer for all algos. So your new ccminer better be superior to the original ccminer for all the coins you're mining So yes custom miner/algo/coins are possible but if your goal is to input a new coin, enter the hash rate of the new algo, point it to a custom ccminer and have it in the profit switching mix you can't do it. Would that be correct Patrike? please confirm. Another issue is, even if you're OK with using the custom ccminer for all coins and you're OK with manually updating difficulty/price/block_reward for the new coin regularly, it is still not useful for profit switching because you may only specify one global hash rate for the new algo for all your rigs. So assuming your rigs are not identical, the hash rate will be incorrect for all but one rig. Therefore profit switching that new coin, even with the above restrictions, would be pointless for more than one rig. I've made some improvements in this area in the development version 3.2.1. See the following post for more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676942.msg20341208#msg20341208With the new version, you can add your own algorithms, and then add it for zpool and you will get profitability information. However, if you add a new coin that Awesome Miner cannot find, you will not get any automatic profit information. The concept you describe about having support for multiple versions of ccminer for the profit switcher is the next step for me to implement. This has been requested a lot recently. Great, I appreciate your effort to address these issues. I'm using 3.2.1 and it has good improvements but having to use zpool to get coin info is not ideal for various reasons, also zpool does not cover most coins. Its not really zpool that the software is getting the info from, its whattomine that most of it is pulled from, so the limitations fall on the use of that website as the source data. I hope the dev adds the ability to add new coins in the future and give us the ability to add our own api url links for the data being pulled for the coins. This would allow massive customization on being able to add new coins and maintain a good correct profit number, because there is are dozens of websites to pull these api sources from on the day of release for each coin.. The method that Patrike prosposed above for profit switching would require zpool to pull the info (by using "unspecified xx algo" as the coin) If you wanted to use whattomine (that has many times the number of zpool coins) you cannot currently add any of their covered coins that are not already hard coded in AM for profit switching as of 3.2.1 But I definitely agree it would be a great improvement to have option to add coins through api url or at least start by allowing all current whattomine coins to be recognized |
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Sigt.suprnova.cc very much lag  I don't know, it looks like a trick to me! the miner keeps receiving work from the pool as if all is well but accounts are not credited with any coin. Who keeps what is mined suprnova?? |
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Not sure if i've missed this in the thread but is there a walkthrough of;
a) adding a customer miner e.g. ccminer 2.2
b) adding a new algo to profit switching using said custom miner
Cheers, apologies if i've missed it.
a) If it's not a profit switching scenario: If you open the properties of your Managed Miner, you will see that Automatic download is enabled by default. In this scenario, Awesome Miner will download and setup the mining software for you, in this case ccminer 2.1. If you change to Specify Path manually instead, you can point to your ccminer 2.2 executable instead, and Awesome Miner will use this one. If you need to do this on multiple computers, you can also use this feature to push the ccminer 2.2 software to all of them: http://awesomeminer.com/help/uploadsoftware.aspxb) For profit switching scenario: Instead of configuring each Managed Miner like this, you define similar settings for you Profit profile. Go to Options dialog, Profit profile section, modify the profile you use, for example nVidia GPU, select ccminer and click Configure. Now you have the same option to change from Automatic download to specifying your own software path where you can point to another version of ccminer. After having tried hard to do this for a while here is my understanding: You can add a custom miner and you can add a custom algo, however using them for profit switching with a custom coin is not possible. Adding a new algo is not useful for profit switching because any custom coin that goes with the new algo does not update its difficulty/price/block_reward One possibility is profit switching (among hardcoded coins only) by replacing the original ccminer with a custom ccminer, but then you have totally lost the use of the original ccminer for all algos. So your new ccminer better be superior to the original ccminer for all the coins you're mining So yes custom miner/algo/coins are possible but if your goal is to input a new coin, enter the hash rate of the new algo, point it to a custom ccminer and have it in the profit switching mix you can't do it. Would that be correct Patrike? please confirm. Another issue is, even if you're OK with using the custom ccminer for all coins and you're OK with manually updating difficulty/price/block_reward for the new coin regularly, it is still not useful for profit switching because you may only specify one global hash rate for the new algo for all your rigs. So assuming your rigs are not identical, the hash rate will be incorrect for all but one rig. Therefore profit switching that new coin, even with the above restrictions, would be pointless for more than one rig. I've made some improvements in this area in the development version 3.2.1. See the following post for more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676942.msg20341208#msg20341208With the new version, you can add your own algorithms, and then add it for zpool and you will get profitability information. However, if you add a new coin that Awesome Miner cannot find, you will not get any automatic profit information. The concept you describe about having support for multiple versions of ccminer for the profit switcher is the next step for me to implement. This has been requested a lot recently. Great, I appreciate your effort to address these issues. I'm using 3.2.1 and it has good improvements but having to use zpool to get coin info is not ideal for various reasons, also zpool does not cover most coins. |
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Not sure if i've missed this in the thread but is there a walkthrough of;
a) adding a customer miner e.g. ccminer 2.2
b) adding a new algo to profit switching using said custom miner
Cheers, apologies if i've missed it.
a) If it's not a profit switching scenario: If you open the properties of your Managed Miner, you will see that Automatic download is enabled by default. In this scenario, Awesome Miner will download and setup the mining software for you, in this case ccminer 2.1. If you change to Specify Path manually instead, you can point to your ccminer 2.2 executable instead, and Awesome Miner will use this one. If you need to do this on multiple computers, you can also use this feature to push the ccminer 2.2 software to all of them: http://awesomeminer.com/help/uploadsoftware.aspxb) For profit switching scenario: Instead of configuring each Managed Miner like this, you define similar settings for you Profit profile. Go to Options dialog, Profit profile section, modify the profile you use, for example nVidia GPU, select ccminer and click Configure. Now you have the same option to change from Automatic download to specifying your own software path where you can point to another version of ccminer. After having tried hard to do this for a while here is my understanding: You can add a custom miner and you can add a custom algo, however using them for profit switching with a custom coin is not possible. Adding a new algo is not useful for profit switching because any custom coin that goes with the new algo does not update its difficulty/price/block_reward One possibility is profit switching (among hardcoded coins only) by replacing the original ccminer with a custom ccminer, but then you have totally lost the use of the original ccminer for all algos. So your new ccminer better be superior to the original ccminer for all the coins you're mining So yes custom miner/algo/coins are possible but if your goal is to input a new coin, enter the hash rate of the new algo, point it to a custom ccminer and have it in the profit switching mix you can't do it. Would that be correct Patrike? please confirm. Another issue is, even if you're OK with using the custom ccminer for all coins and you're OK with manually updating difficulty/price/block_reward for the new coin regularly, it is still not useful for profit switching because you may only specify one global hash rate for the new algo for all your rigs. So assuming your rigs are not identical, the hash rate will be incorrect for all but one rig. Therefore profit switching that new coin, even with the above restrictions, would be pointless for more than one rig. |
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Man, Im having a hell of a time wrestling with the interface on this thing. I just want to setup a simple 1 GPU config for managed profit mining on mining pool hub. No matter what I do when I have my GPU in the proper place, it won't let me add a mining pool to it (button stays greyed out, and if I enter one in the settings it just doesn't show up in the mining pool tab on the bottom).
If I just run it w/o one it just says stratum authentication failed in the console window. Im going to try reinstalling it at this point out of sheer frustration, this seems like it shouldn't be any kind of hassle.
Pretty frustrating that there isn't even a simple way to remove the default (or any other miner) from the page where they are shown without getting into the arcane settings page. Doesn't make much sense..
I also cannot see any way to remove hosts once you add a new one on the managed profit miner (ok, found it in the options, but pretty awkward, again).
You have to add your worker in mining pool hub before setting up the software or it will reject your connection.... just fyi that's not what miningpoolhub.com says: "Workers will be automatically added one by one slowly after you start minining. You don't need to add each worker manually if you don't need to check or configure it immediately." |
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Hello.
Maybe I am wrong, but I did as follows.
Since I only have nvidia cards, looking at whattomine I see that it always suggests the following coins: hush, zen, zec, zclassic.
So I added a pool group, with 4 suprnova pools, one for each coin.
Then I added a profit miner, with an "equihash only" profit switching profile, with only EWBF enabled.
In profit switching, I enabled "custom pools", selecting the suprnova pools group.
Starting my new miner, EWBF connect to dwarfpool, that I never configured (maybe that's EWBF default?).
Just to understand: can I use a pools group to make awesome miner switch after checking the most profitable coin at whattomine?
Thank you.
The workaround is to delete the default .cfg file that EWBF comes with, otherwise you end up mining full time for someone else. |
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Bug report:
Profit switching insists on using EWBF 0.3.4b for NoeoScrypt coins/pools even though EWBF by default is disabled for all algorithms except Equihash (under Managed software.)
This results to EWBF complaining it's receiving the wrong work and producing zero hashes but keeps on running unless stopped or its switching minutes are up.
Using Development Version 3.2.1
But I think AM should be stopping any running software that produce zero hashing for any reason for more than x minutes. That way bugs like this or other issues won't matter so much.
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