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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Ripple has failed. on: September 23, 2013, 08:26:12 PM
>>>>In this way, highly risky loans make their way to asset holders through Liquidity Providers without any warning or determination being made by the lender.<<<<

There is no way for me to end up with your IOU's unless I trust you directly no matter how many connections there are between you and me. What I can end up with are dollar denominated IOU's you might have owned from a gateway that we both trust. If I trust Bitstamp for $10 and you trust Bitstamp for $10, I could end up with $10 that you initially deposited into Bitstamp or bought in trade.

If you send your buddy a $10 IOU, not from a gateway, but your "personal" IOU and even if that same buddy of yours sends me his $10 IOU via Ripple there is no way I'll ever have your IOU in my wallet unless I specifically set the trust for you in my client to $10. Right now your trust line in my client is set to zero and I wouldn't change that even if a friend asked me to.

I would never do this because I don't know you. What I would do is set $10 trust for our mutual friend, so the debt is between him and me, I own his IOUs, not yours. In order to use Ripple safely all you have to remember is don't trust strangers, something your mother taught you when you were 4 years old.

The real way the trust lines work is not unlike dollar credit balances from my regular business clients. I run a biz which is a B2B operation. My customers order work from me on credit that I extend to them. I extend them credit basically to pay for work that they are ordering for delivery to their business client and so on. The payment terms between me and my clients are not in any way dependent on their getting payment from their customer. I have every legal right to sue them for money they owe me regardless of whether or not their client pays them.

In the real world this is not to say that a bad player using credit going bust can't take down others, we know they can from experience. This happens in my biz from time to time. A big customer or company goes TU and leaves a lot of smaller vendors holding bad receivables, my customers want me to share the pain. The only way around this chance of loss is ONLY ACCEPT CASH.

I can tell you that only the illegal and third World economies run on a cash basis. The real world runs on credit lines like I described above. So your argument that Ripple has already failed is already proven wrong, because the trust lines work pretty much the way the real world of credit between small players works right now.

If I was selling you something I'd want XRP and not your personal IOUs. I'd take XRP because XRP is not at all dependent on me trusting you. This is not all that different than you showing up to buy a used car from me, you'd better bring cash and not a check.

I would also take Bitstamp USD or BTC because I already trust Bitstamp BTC and USD IOUs. I'd also accept BTC from you.... BUT I'd want 3 confirms before I handed over the goods. Still takes about an hour, right?!

If you paid me in XRP, Bitstamp/BTC or Bitstamp/USD the transaction would be almost instantaneous.

Therein lay the real reason Ripple has value.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [1 BTC Bounty] What is Bitcoin? on: June 03, 2013, 12:15:06 AM
Bitcoin is digital money that knows no national border, is impossible to forge and completely immune to the inflationary policies of governments and central banks. It is math based, secured with cryptography and does not rely on trust.

The fact that so many people are willing to exchange their own country's currency to own it is Gresham's Law at work.

3  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Ripple: A Distributed Exchange for Bitcoin on: May 08, 2013, 02:07:20 PM
Here's an even better place to track the XRP/USD and XRP/BTC.

https://ripplecharts.com/markets

As you can see from these charts the volume of trading has gone up significantly in the last week or so along with the price of XRP against both BTC and USD.
 
Once you have your starter XRP (you only need about 100 and that shouldn't cost more than $2 on Bitstamp ) you can trade BTC/XRP from the Ripple Wallet.
4  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Ripple: A Distributed Exchange for Bitcoin on: May 08, 2013, 12:54:18 AM
Their site says they are in Beta but if you can simply click through "open wallet", select "existing users" and create a new wallet. You too can have a place to put Ripple, USD, BTC, etc.

Getting the account activated is a little confusing because you need Ripples in there before you can buy Ripples within your wallet through the gateway. The easiest way, without begging from your friends or trying to trade with strangers in dark internet alleys, is to transfer some small amount of BTC to Bitstamp, sell it for USD and buy Ripples on Bitstamp to start your account. Occasionally they will have a sign out saying they have none to sell but then it goes away and they do.

You don't need much to activate the wallet, just about 100 of them. Then you can "trust" Bitstamp for BTC, send more BTC to your Ripple wallet and buy Ripples by placing an offer. BitStamp has the highest volume and best pricing, so you can choose them as the issuer. You have to "book" orders, there are no "market" buys. It is a little buggy doing this in the Beta wallet client but it can be done. Just make sure you get the decimal point in the correct place. Cool
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: May 07, 2013, 04:36:37 PM
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6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Businesses and Developers, Let's Get Started! on: May 07, 2013, 06:50:39 AM
And I have 30 years experience.
7  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Businesses and Developers, Let's Get Started! on: May 07, 2013, 06:49:02 AM
I do pre-press and large format inkjet printing. I take bitcoin in payment.

www.gracezaccardidigital.com
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Just the useless welcome post :) on: May 07, 2013, 06:33:56 AM
Welcome!
9  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Safest place to buy Ripple? on: May 07, 2013, 03:39:44 AM
Create an account at BitStamp
Move some BTC to your account
Sell for USD
Buy Ripples with USD
Send Ripples to your new wallet

You only need to buy about 80-100 Ripples to activate your wallet, about 1$ worth

With Ripples in your wallet you can buy within the Ripple wallet under advanced>trade

You have to send BTC to your Ripple wallet via BitStamp, to do this you need to "trust" them for this amount in BTC, then you can enter an "offer" to sell BTC for Ripples
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I'M FREE on: May 07, 2013, 02:25:56 AM
I wish I was free like you Sad
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