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1  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: September 07, 2017, 09:53:10 PM
Before the raid, I sent some money from coinbase to BTC-e. They asked if the money was going to another exchange and which one. I did not lie and told them the money was going to BTC-e. This information is obviously now in the hands of the Feds or soon will be.

No, it won't be. Sending funds to BTC-e wasn't illegal. Coinbase has no legal requirement to inform the feds. And they have shown that they care about customer privacy.

My question is this: How fucked am I for using an unlicensed exchange? I didn't even know it was illegal to US customers to use BTC-e.

Not fucked at all. It's not illegal. It was illegal for them to serve you as a customer with inadequate AML/KYC and without money transmitting licenses.

I have significant holdings of cryptocurrency that I will be cashing out at some point in the future. Is all of my money now guilty of a crime and therefore subject to civil asset forfeiture laws? I have no desire to launder the money or break any additional laws, I intend to pay my taxes at the end of the year. If I even have to pay a fine for using BTC-e I'd have no problem with that. But my real fear is that one day I wake up and my bank account is frozen and I am facing federal indictment for my ignorant mistake... What can I do to get right with the law and keep my hard earned fortune?

edit/follow-up question: Was it even illegal for me to use BTC-e? Or was it only illegal for BTC-e to serve me?

Stop freaking out. You're all good! If you have funds on BTC-e (or will have funds on the new site), just be very careful about not sending those coins directly back to a licensed exchange like Coinbase. Those coins could be subject to civil asset forfeiture. Get some clean coins through another exchange/service first.


I don't think you will have problems if you transfer coins to Coinbase. Why would you? Coinbase has not had any problems with the gov't.
2  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: August 30, 2017, 09:00:24 PM
What I don't understand is the 45% Token they are offering. I was all in ETH. Does that mean that if 45% of my ETH is worth $10k at current market rates, they are going to give me $10k in their token to spend on ETH or BTC or whatever? So I can just buy ETH again and be back where I was when they crashed? I would hope so...
3  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: August 26, 2017, 06:28:02 PM
Right... so no service to US Residents... they do not say how we are going to get our coins... if they are even going to give them to us...
4  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: August 22, 2017, 09:18:14 PM
Alright... now I'm getting impatient.
5  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 29, 2017, 08:25:02 PM
I have to agree with you. There is no way the US, if they did in fact seize the assets, can legally confiscate our money. They would need to prove the money was dirty. For those of us that can prove that our funds are legitimate, they cannot hold our funds indefinitely. And if they try, we have the right to file a class action lawsuit--there are many legitimate traders and a lot of money at stake. My 9k that I invested was worth 21k. If I had withdrawn it, I would have done so through Coinbase and would have reported it in my taxes. They have no right to take my money. I will fight for it. I hope you will too. Strength in numbers.

have you not read of civil asset forfeiture? they're stepping it up too. and that's for cut and dry innocent cases. this is gonna be a real mess.

Yes and if you can prove your money is clean, you can get it back but you will have to fight for it. That just allows them to seize it without due process. This is why we need to file a class action lawsuit if they do not allow us to withdraw our funds. Having purchased coins with a verified identity on Coinbase, I am personally not worried. It's very easy for me to prove that I wasn't involved in any crime. And who knows, maybe it won't even come to this. Maybe in a week they will let us withdraw.

However, if not, we need to start thinking about how to band together in this and get the ball rolling with an attorney. You all should start gathering your personal account information/emails/transfers/wallet addresses that will help your case and show that your assets were obtained legally. If it comes to it, we can put it all together and hand it over to an attorney.
6  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 29, 2017, 08:03:12 PM
I have $200,000$ Bitcoin in BTC-E.. about 2/3 my net worth..I have always been legit, even went out of my way and paid upward of $25,000 taxes to USGOV when I wire transferred out of BTC-E year or two ago.. There is no legal basis to steal our money, I like to think it can't be done.

I have to agree with you. There is no way the US, if they did in fact seize the assets, can legally confiscate our money. They would need to prove the money was dirty. For those of us that can prove that our funds are legitimate, they cannot hold our funds indefinitely. And if they try, we have the right to file a class action lawsuit--there are many legitimate traders and a lot of money at stake. My 9k that I invested was worth 21k. If I had withdrawn it, I would have done so through Coinbase and would have reported it in my taxes. They have no right to take my money. I will fight for it. I hope you will too. Strength in numbers.
7  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 29, 2017, 06:54:33 PM
What about the bitcoin or other wallets any activity there?

Yes. Anybody know? I had nothing in BTC. I'd be curious to see where that went.
8  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 29, 2017, 06:46:04 PM
Well, at least they are keeping it all together. It might be the US. I would hope they allow us to get back our coins if we verify our identity. I would be more than happy to do that. I have around $9k invested of hard earned cash.
9  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 28, 2017, 09:50:28 PM
Did anyone read what the shadowserver offers? Yeah they say they are there to prevent cyber crime. But perhaps BTC-E was using it. It would have been helpful in the DDOS attacks a few weeks ago. Has anybody checked the WHOIS in the past? If so, do you remember seeing a different server in use?
10  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 28, 2017, 09:37:18 PM
I am not seeing that page--at least not yet. Are you joking?
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