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1  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Update5! Важное! 09.08.2017 on: August 14, 2017, 08:16:57 AM
Prichina, po kotoroy my derzhim kripto, kak bitkoyn, - eto izolirovat' nas ot takikh lyudey, kak FBR. U vas yest' amerikanskaya valyuta ... na vash vybor. BTC-e ne imeyet prava zanyat' pozitsiyu 21-go veka dlya podderzhki tekh, kto zastryal v mire FIAT. Yesli vy verite v kripto ... togda kripto vy derzhite. BTC-e razrushayet veru v kriptonu, podderzhivaya amerikanskuyu valyutu. BTC-e dolzhen zaplatit' kriptovuyu monetu, kotoruyu oni derzhat na 100%, i davat' zhetony dlya drugogo der'ma. Prichina, po kotoroy my imeyem kripto monetu, - eto otsutstviye very v valyuty FIAT. Pochemu vy nakazyvayete nas za provedeniye kriptografii? To, chto vy derzhite 100%, vozvrashchayetsya k zakonnym vladel'tsam. Te, kto byl razorvan FBR ... voz'mite yego s FBR .... YA ne stal igrat' v azartnyye igry s dollarom SSHA ... pochemu ya dolzhen platit' za vashi vybory? BTC-e platit kripto, vy derzhite 100%, a te, ch'i sredstva izdevayutsya ... ikh vybor. Ikh bor'ba .... ne moya !!!!
2  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Update5! Важное! 09.08.2017 on: August 14, 2017, 07:18:58 AM
Те, кто в FIAT, рискуют FIAT, Те, у которых монеты владеют монетами, возвращают монеты. Те, кто играл на бирже, потеряли .... неудачу .... иногда ты выигрываешь. Те в монете не схвачены ... верните нашу монету. Я не чувствую себя обязанным покрывать потери игроков в FIAT. Верните мои очень маленькие сбережения жизни .... пожалуйста.
3  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Update5! Важное! 09.08.2017 on: August 14, 2017, 07:07:07 AM
Those in FIAT play the risk of FIAT, Those in coins own the coins.....return the coins. Those playing the exchange lost....bad luck....sometimes you win. Those in coin not seized....return our coin. I do not feel obliged to cover the losses of gamblers in FIAT. Return my very small life savings ....please.
4  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: August 11, 2017, 12:13:26 PM
From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2075551.0

Update5! Important! 09.08.2017

exit the current situation with arrested Fiat:

1. latest 14 days we were engaged in a fight for your money, managed to get control over 55% (depending on the course), and the remaining 45% is arrested means most in fiate. As the lifting of arrest from the accounts of the amount will be reduced.

2. What is the way out of the current situation we see:
2.1. Work under the current brand of BTC-e is not possible due to closed questions from the Office of the Finance Ministry's financial crimes United States.
2.2. Currently we are negotiating with a group of investors (investment company), about buying and early launch service and repayment of debts to customers. Next will be more detailed the process of paying off debt.
2.3. once we pass all balances investment company would be recosted balances.
2.4. conversion Procedure taking into account 55 per cent of available funds:
2.4.1. All obligations on fiato (USD, EUR, RUR) will be converted into tokens BTE (BTE 1 equals 1 USD) exchange rate on the date of conversion. Perhaps, for the more expeditious closing of debt obligations, according to the ICO will be held BTE tokens.
2.4.2. If you have a balance sheet amount koinah, then you will be charged 45% of the balance of coins and enrolled 45% BTE (BTE 1 equals 1 USD). Exchange rate on the date of conversion.
2.4.3. If you have a balance in BTE, you will be credited 45% of koinah (the amount will be divided into 7 different coins equally BTC, LTC, NMC, NVC, PPC, ETH, DSH) and charged at a rate of 45% in BTE.
2.4.4. In fact of all recalculations from all users will be able to withdraw their funds from 55% system.
2.5. Investment Company works with observance of KYC, AML and necessary license for this activity, all users will need to pass verification.
2.6. The indicative dates for the launch of the end of August.

3. all debt obligations will be closed primarily from operational Commission income investment company, as well as from means that we intend to sue those who illegally arrested.

Closure of the debt will take place according to the principle of redemption of tokens BTE from the market.

The next update will be more detailed information on the procedure for access to information on your balance and when those funds can be withdrawn.

BTC-e team officially announce that all the funds that were in the contingency fund (including our entire income) were submitted for repayment of debt.

P.S. Warning! Frequent posting on forums fejkovyh links to supposedly our new domain. All official information about our service is placed only in our twitter and our official account on the Forum.

With best regards, the team of BTC-e
5  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: August 01, 2017, 03:07:49 AM
FBI don't have the private keys/encryption keys.....otherwise the whole thing would have played differently by now.

No.... I believe from empirical evidence, there is an attempt to re-establish and bona-fide users' interests are being protected by the operators in order to keep their own money tree intact....best answer for them. Who knows whether they are negotiating a way out of this mess with the FBI right now? Ultimately everyone has a preferred outcome and this is just business.....negotiating a future acceptable to all. Obviously various parties hold various cards.....so negotiation is the most sensible thing for all. Ultimately, btc-e want to operate an exchange, we want our money and USA want to be satisfied there is oversight. How the USA leash the zealots at the FBI depends on everyone involved coming to an equitable settlement.
6  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: August 01, 2017, 12:26:42 AM
By my calculation I am owed BTC price plus BCC price at time of redemption for the BTC units on the btc-e exchange at the time it went down. The RIGHT thing to do is populate a BTC and BCC wallet owned by me for the number of BTC units I had when site went down.

Who is going to ensure the honest people with verifiable personal transactions to btc-e are not innocent victims (collateral damage is an expression that comes to mind because somehow in all wars, collateral damage is perceived to be inevitable...almost acceptable). Well...innocent victims are not acceptable collateral damage in a digital space because everything can be verified....reversed....etc.

There is no reason this cannot be sorted fairly....unless greed or laziness or both is the guiding principle of those imposing the rules.
7  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: August 01, 2017, 12:07:37 AM
This is only about the 4 billion dollar theft and tracing the money through to btc-e, as well, the use of btc-e by ransomware criminals and the US government is simply chasing the criminals. Unfortunately, by servicing US citizens without having appropriate rules in place has left them (btc-e) open to further punishment beyond the 110 million $US fine. By not banning US citizens or not playing by their KYC rules, btc-e has left its liability open to confiscation punishments associated with the proceeds of crime legislation that warrants payment of double the damages......which the US government will chase from either Alex or btc-e....whichever is easier. Both probably.

The timing of the takedown is interesting with the BCC hardfork because whoever owns the bitcoin will get coins in both currencies. Those who had their bitcoin in a trading account would have had their actual bitcoin residing in a btc-e hot or cold wallet belonging to btc-e. Therefore.... when the dust settles, btc-e would own your BCC entitlement which was trading in futures markets at $900USD per BCC unit. They will keep that. The rumours of a 40% exit fee for 90 days when they come back online would also provide additional funds for subsequent US government actions.

My gripe is that these strategies are forcing current users to pay for what should be paid from their last 6 years profit. They did wrong....not we users.
8  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 31, 2017, 09:11:52 AM
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good luck


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9  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 31, 2017, 08:33:34 AM
I am a serious advocate who has been screwed out of my life savings.

I am motivated to monitor, support, advocate and resolve this situation.

the only thing I have is intelligence, education and motivation. If you can support me, then I can devote myself.

I believe I stand for the right of the individual.

Donate to     1DXva5xsiUaUjSR6CSWLBtr2g2thNsDqiU   something that you can. Then I can bring my 50 years of expertise in several fields to bear on the problem without having to be distracted.
10  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 31, 2017, 08:10:45 AM
1. I am serious in the belief the world is held to ransom by an outdated minority who never did an honest day's work in their life....they control the current monetary system.
2. The answer is distributed ledger....the people decide....the market truth becomes reality....for the first time.
3. as individual currencies collapse under manipulation or corruption.....your true worth is reflected on bitcoin by the price you charge for your product or service....in a worldwide context....what could be fairer?Huh??
4. I am among the poorest in a first world country struggling....AUD.....and here is the only place fairness will be restored.
5. So I ask you btc-e..... do you want to be remembered a good man? or a bad man?.... history is written by the victors, but if you choose badly, it affects all your children and generations that follow.... .... or you can secure your place in history as the patriarch of the new currency. The mechanism that freed the greater unwashed.
6. This is a crucial moment in the history of crypto.
7. We are the victims of a criminal despised in our lifetimes with a long term less than satisfactory report card......or .....we are the courageous supporters of the changing new world......we...through our collective purchasing power and individual beliefs can support the things we believe in....like....sustainable.....fairness.....green.....if we take over the money, we dictate a brighter future based on an ultimate democracy.....distributed coin.....distributed votes....distributed power.


seriously.....am I the only one who sees how momentous this incident is?Huh?
11  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-e hacked ?? on: July 31, 2017, 07:47:21 AM
I have never spoken before.

Likely the site will come back online with a different address offering everyone to withdraw with 40% fee in 90 days.......AND IF WE WAIT?....maybe less commission.

I have never spoken before.

My analysis is that he wants to get back online and continue the trading site....likely comply enough not to get seized....likely also he has a $110,000,000 bill that he would rather fund by people selling/redeeming now than dipping into the profits of the last 6 six years as a cost of doing business.....call that a Russian mentality or non customer service attitude.....whatever.

I would ask that this proposition is clarified ..... communicate somehow that yes....you will take from unbelievers in the first 90 days 40% and charge normal fees for those who stayed......not sure the benefit. Dude: Your reputation is at stake and the next 10 years of commissions are down the tube......pay the fine....comply with the way you operate so they can't get a sealed indictment again....suck up the loss against all your profits and make money forever....smart move. Rip off people who had nothing to do with the miscreant behaviour on btc-e.com and you destroy your ability to hold a loyal following. This open source community who believes in the model you put there for us (and yourself ok) will stand behind you if you grow a set. (of balls.....for the non-English speakers who don't understand idioms).


I think everyone here will stand behind you to free the world of the idle rich in the current monetary system who treat people like cattle. Bitcoin frees all peoples and you did what you did because it was right. I will back you.

Vote 1.....phineas562 World President.....platform......a fair and equitable money system for all independent of the goons who currently rule your lives.

Phineas562 catchcry!!!
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