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was always waiting for such personal hand in my house. Any thoughts on price for off-the-shelf product?
Price is <=$5000 wow, $5000 is quite a price. What is the purpose of this robotic device, solely communication? May be, but our robot is not a toy. This is a quite serious instrument. The main ( but not sole!) feature is a telepresence with the ability to influence the surrounding objects. The reason for such price is the manipulator itself (~1/2 robot cost). To make it cheaper means to reduce the possibilities of the manipulator (or make it useless). But I can say that $5000 is the top estimate of the retail price. We are planning to develop our robot in the direction of autonomous artificial intelligence after release (via free software updates). It means, he can bring you a beer from the fridge, for example. Also $5000 is still lower than the price of existing home robots (for example, NAO or Pepper), despite the fact that Clapeyron is much more useful. More use cases you can find in our whitepaper. Now we are refactoring wp and site to make the information more clear and demonstrative. New update is coming soon:) just watched video. manipulator will be a great thing if he manage to deliver me coffee in the morning. BTW, what is its length ? Arguably I should consider myself as a buyer. units in pictures below: mm   |
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Great concept btw.
Thank you very much  |
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It's not even a criticism, just unreasonable butthurt.
I can see it's getting personal. I'm not gonna respond in that manner. You asked what we think about your project, I answered as honestly as I could.
and we definitely not heard such harsh statements like yours.
I agree, it was harsh, but it was necessary. You probably weren't ready for that, that's all. When researching ICO, I always check following things: how credible the team is; is there solid, easy to understand whitepaper; how is the coin supply going to be divided; how consistent and realistic the roadmap (timeline of development) is; is there a use case or (even better) a working product or a service already; how is the team communicating with prospective investors and marketing the ICO; As you can see, in my opinion you failed at first hurdle. But you still can improve. Whatever I stated was wrong about you in my previous posts, work on it. Good luck. I hope youre still here in Q3 2020. This is a constructive comment, thank you. We are working on it. |
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I think ICO'S should be illegal ... if you change it to a mining coin only..then..looks great. Should we ingeniously change "ICO" to "mining coins"?) this is just an asset selling ico..no coins no blockchain involved into their project...so it is just money begging  1) A project participating in an ICO hasn't to be connected with the blockchain. (despite that we associate ourselves with blockchain because of specific data collection system) 2) Our ICO is not money begging. This is an attraction of investments. If you think another way, explain you opinion, please. Help us to make our ICO more clear for you:) |
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was always waiting for such personal hand in my house. Any thoughts on price for off-the-shelf product?
Price is <=$5000 wow, $5000 is quite a price. What is the purpose of this robotic device, solely communication? May be, but our robot is not a toy. This is a quite serious instrument. The main ( but not sole!) feature is a telepresence with the ability to influence the surrounding objects. The reason for such price is the manipulator itself (~1/2 robot cost). To make it cheaper means to reduce the possibilities of the manipulator (or make it useless). But I can say that $5000 is the top estimate of the retail price. We are planning to develop our robot in the direction of autonomous artificial intelligence after release (via free software updates). It means, he can bring you a beer from the fridge, for example. Also $5000 is still lower than the price of existing home robots (for example, NAO or Pepper), despite the fact that Clapeyron is much more useful. More use cases you can find in our whitepaper. Now we are refactoring wp and site to make the information more clear and demonstrative. New update is coming soon:) |
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was always waiting for such personal hand in my house. Any thoughts on price for off-the-shelf product?
Price is <=$5000 |
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do you really think this project scam?  I am still not convinced. I know what I can see with my eyes. I still don't like the roadmap, still don't like the whitepaper, still don't like the bounty campaign, and any words from self-proclaimed "development team" can't change that. I admit that there is more info about them now, but it started popping up after my first post, so it's irrelevant. But it may not be an intended scam. Doing an ICO is just an easy way of rising funds without giving investors any assurance, and they know that they may get away with it, when their project fails. At best they just may be a bunch of kids with heads full of dreams, and those dreams will be shattered, when they clash with reality. Good luck to them and to investors, who, against my advice, decide to invest into that questionable project. There is discrepancy in your words: we had link to the community in social network "vkontakte" since the beginning of publication on the bitcointalk. So, you could see admins and their friends, like Vladimir Berzin, before specialized answer for you. And sorry for Nikita Klapeyron surname artefact:)  I still do not understand the claims to the bounty campaign. Can you formalize this? The volume of the market of robotics is growing every year. We chose a free and promising niche and we definitely not heard such harsh statements like yours. |
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try to work. although you could combine the referral system and the usual bounty.
What is problem to use referral link in bitcointalk signature? |
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The idea of robot-assistant is very cool but without huge amount of investions it won't success and you are going only for refferals. It's not good idea.
So, we have considerable hard cap. What are the disadvantages of referral links? |
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Молодежи у нас везде дорога, такие юные ребята решили сделать серьезного робота-помощника. Идея хорошая, но и собрать хотят много. Сейчас на ИКО далеко не всегда собирают нужную сумму, а такую хардкапу вообще сложно будет собрать.
Спасибо) но мы пока не видим способов снижения хард капа, потому что 250к по нашим расчетам гарантируют доведение до такого прототипа, который уже можно пускать в продажу и продолжить развитие дальше. С другой стороны, у нас нет хард капа на ICO, только на pre |
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what do you think about our project?
What do I think about your project? IMHO there is no project. Why? No info on dev team anywhere in the web. Unrealistic roadmap. Your whitepaper just doesn't add up (and trust me, I read quite a few of them). Bounty campaign resembles a Ponzi scheme. It has written word SCAM all over it. Investors beware! You are about to lose your money! That's what I think about your "project". Your words are not supported by arguments. I might agree with the lack of info about team only. But there is some information in any case, also we are going to make a video with the team. Roadmap is realistic if you try to understand our purposes for a roadmap period. It is: to finish navigation, to finish phrases recognition, to make the final design, to train robot to recognize objects and to grab them. That's all. After this period we will update software, but robot has to be sold. What doesn't add up in our whitepaper? Bounty campaign is completely transparent. We just look on total number of website visit from all referral links and the same number for each participant. Clear scheme. Here is that important bit from your bounty campaign announcement: "There is a reward for participation in the bounty program. It will be distributed immediately after the pre-ICO and immediately after the ICO. If more than $ 265,000 will be collected during the pre-ICO, the participants of the bounty program will be able to choose how to get their reward: in PCLP tokens or in ether (equivalent to the pre-ICO pricing). Dollar equivalent of the total award will not exceed 5% of the amount collected. If from $ 250,000 to $ 265,000 will be collected during pre-ICO, 5% of the sold PCLP tokens will be issued and distributed among the participants of the bounty program. Account is crucial for bounty-program participants; it also can be used by investors to track their investments. For bounty participants, the size of reward is proportional to the number of followings the participant's personal referral link. If the pre-ICO's minimal funding limit will not be reached, we will save your bounty progress (from your account) and this progress will be restored in the next trial of pre-ICO. If no pre-ICO will take place, no reward will be given to the bounty-program participants." In order to earn the bounty participants must get investors to buy your tokens. That's a f***ing pyramid scheme. and there is no guarantee to earn any bounty. When pre-ICO fails, there will be another pre-ICO, and so on... Lack of info abot team? Yeah, you got it right, Ilya Gridniev's Facebook Profile: https://www.facebook.com/ilya.gridnev.7587 - one picture posted two days ago (same as in whitepaper!), two friends and that's all - does this person even exist? Not much more about the rest of the team. Your product is supposed to have all bells and whistles, beating the existing and future competition at the fraction of the price. How you gonna do that? Token buyback at a higher price - where is the money for that coming from? Roadmap - in less than two years you are going to have not just working prototype, but ready to use product. That is impossible. Or you much further with the development than you claim you are, and you need funding for things not related to it - cars, apartments, holidays etc. Also, we have link to the vkontakte, where you can look at our accounts like on Facebook. About our "Pyramid": very clear scheme, one more time: we emit 5% from solded tokens and distribute them between ALL bounty participants. The size of awards for each bounty participant will be proportional to the ratio of website visits via your referral link to total number of website visits via all referral links. Referral link is generated for each bounty participant. When he advertise us, he replaces "clapeyronrobotics.com" with his own referral link. You can ask questions about bounty here too, if you don't understand smth and want to participate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2317282.new#newAbout buying back: we have already counted the cost of robot. So, we can sell robot at $5000 price. About realistic roadmap was answered above. And we need money for a big team (not 2 people like co-founders), prototypes of the robot and etc. As described in tokensale: $250 000 is the required amount for the development of final instance of robot. Even if we don't raise above, will still sales of robots. And: second pre-ICO is about second attempt. All moneys will refunded if there is no hard cap according to the smart-contract. |
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Why so negative? 1) About team. If you can't find any info, this does not mean that it does not exist. As I said, we'll publish more info soon. If you can not wait, you can look through my personal VK account. In my friendlist you can find all team members. I can give my phone number or address, if you want. https://vk.com/berzin11295 (VK) 2) About "f***ing pyramid scheme". Lol, man, you can apply your words to everything. We are just planning to reward people who help us to spread the info about our project. This is a part of marketing, lol! 3) About our roadmap etc.. We had been developing our robot several years, yes. But there were only 2 students. But today there are not students anymore. We have powerful core. There are graduates of MIPT, BMSTU (Russia), Czech Technical University. Yes, we are not 40 years old, but we have enough experience, knowledge and enthusiasm to complete roadmap tasks. We already have working prorotype. I'm sure, we can develop it to the final product. Robotics is my life, man. Your criticism is empty. It's not even a criticism, just unreasonable butthurt. |
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I have interested in translation for portuguese.
Ok so no translation too ? Only referral link ?
Hi, we are looking for specialist in Japanese language first of all. Also we have spanish already, I think. So, we don't need in other languages in preparation for the pre-ICO. |
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Hi , what are the bounties campaigns? Translation? Twitter, Facebook , etc ?
We decided to refuse the traditional signature campaign. You have to register on our website (clapeyronrobotics.com) and take your own referral link. When you take part in advertising just replace "clapeyronrobotics.com" on your referral link. Your reward will be proportional to the ratio of website visits via your referral link to total number of website visits via all referral links. The total size of reward described above. |
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It will be a long time before robots can replace human. Anyway, nothing prevents him from doing sports, for example, or creative activity.
About technical information. Yes, thank you, I think, we could present some principles and ideas we use. I think we will pay more attention to this in the next version of our whitepaper. And we are planning to publish one more video about our functional prototype.
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We'll present detailed information about our team soon. We almost found a well known escrow. I can say, that most of us are graduates of MIPT(SU) (Bachelor's / master's degree).
So, besides for the team, do you have more questions/doubts? Your opinion is very important for us
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what do you think about our project?
What do I think about your project? IMHO there is no project. Why? No info on dev team anywhere in the web. Unrealistic roadmap. Your whitepaper just doesn't add up (and trust me, I read quite a few of them). Bounty campaign resembles a Ponzi scheme. It has written word SCAM all over it. Investors beware! You are about to lose your money! That's what I think about your "project". Your words are not supported by arguments. I might agree with the lack of info about team only. But there is some information in any case, also we are going to make a video with the team. Roadmap is realistic if you try to understand our purposes for a roadmap period. It is: to finish navigation, to finish phrases recognition, to make the final design, to train robot to recognize objects and to grab them. That's all. After this period we will update software, but robot has to be sold. What doesn't add up in our whitepaper? Bounty campaign is completely transparent. We just look on total number of website visit from all referral links and the same number for each participant. Clear scheme. |
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