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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: October 24, 2019, 01:35:11 AM
Ok ok enough drama.  Crypto has no shortage of drama and squabbling!
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: October 22, 2019, 07:53:55 PM
thank you shiny you are the best
hey community i know it was a disaster  with the refund ,but today i have all the requirements i need to finish the dex i have also some connexion with private investors for the found development  marketing and liquidity
if you remeber i decided to change the plan after the ico i removed maidsafe to my roadmap the proof maidsafe still doesn’t exist if we follow the roadmap you will just have a client and me saying we are waiting maidsafe and burn your money invested hopefully 90 pour cent of team devs stayed with me and helped me to 2 build this 2 platform zero money was spend on marketing or on bullshite think www.veserus.com and www.spendtrack.com with this 2 platform i find a way to get some private hedge fund and investors who want to buy some equity
for the rest of the nvo plan blockstream delivred exactly what we need to finish the dex https://blockstream.com/liquid/#liquid-confirmation i love blockstream sorry but they are the best for me
now we will add xcp in veserus and you will be able to send your nvst for a swap token and trade it in the platform
i am updating the wp because we still have a wp who talk about maidsafe and also update the roadmap
the old ceo remover all the servers and clusters really not easy to contacted you i have zero email and the slack was remover the nvo telegram was removed also i just have btct
the best past part of the nvo project is the plugin system i was thinking all this years the way we can build that and during my travel to cairo with my cto he told me to build a real dex you have to let people add the code to their blockchain in bitcoin people can vote via the node for the futur update and this is the real solution
and also the blockchain of bitcoin reward mining only but let say if you can build services with a real value and you can be rewarded if it s work you can say goodbye to eth and this multiple smart contract
our challenge will be the plugin system because to build a dex today it s very easy
my team dev have a lot of experience today on engineering side i believe we can finish what we start
we will review all the code base we have and update the roadmap
if you have any questions let me know but if we want to succeed we need just brain support from the community we are building a decentralized system it mean it s not for me but for everyone

Sounds good, but let me suggest you do not use nvst to trade, as many of us (me included) no longer have nvst as I sold it on the exchange for a few dollars to someone hoping something like this would happen.  You must airdrop to the snapshot address, or something of that nature, if you wish to be fair.  Thank you.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: October 21, 2019, 09:05:30 PM
Hello NVO community!  

It was a wild ride, wasn't it - the height of ICO madness and crypto being presented to the mainstream, and here was NVO - the project many of us hoped would be the "holy grail" of decentralized exchanges - easily add a token to the platform with miminal pleading and begging - a project could just code it in themselves and voila - free to trade without the worry of regulatory oversight.

33 1/3% of the NVO team is wishing to resurrect this project, mr. nemgun.  No risk to be involved, and even a promise of airdrop to the old snapshot refund address!.

So head on over to telegram or discord and pick his brain, troll him, yell at him, doubt him, believe in him, who cares.  Worth a few minutes to see what he has.

Just don't invest any more funds and you have little to lose!

https://t.me/veserus
https://discord.gg/mdMjSa

From him:

"Ok i am working on the wp of nvo and all the details
I decided to airdrop
All the holders of nvst
With new token you will be able to trade it on veserus
I will creat 30 millions token 25 pour-cent will be airdop for all the holders...

Please I need someone to post on the btct thread of nvo I can t make a double post
After that I will be able to explain all the plans for the nvo development

I will update the wp and also explain how the plug-in system will work
Please give me some feedback or also troll me if it s possible we need activity if I have to make some partnership with what I need I need to show the community of nvo I know it was a disaster but today you have nothing to loose
And I will take my promises
I was working silently to improve my plan and now you have all the evidence to follow and get back the faith of veserus
I also learned English to be able to talk with you directly"

Grab your popcorn and head on over folks.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ravencoin [RVN] PoW GPU Mining | Asset Transfer Blockchain (Updated ANN) on: February 13, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
Today I have sinc my wallet and there are 10 assents from www.ravenland.com. Can anyone tell me whats that?

It is a project that is using this asset they created to advertise as well as test some faucets and functionalities.  They are a pretty cool project.  They just did a test to send their token to every address on the raven chain some time ago.  Looks like you have 10 addresses that were active on the chain some time before the snapshot.

You can go to their website to learn more and they have a nice discord too. https://www.ravenland.org/ 

I would just ignore them or you can send them to burn address.  Future wallet updates should allow you to ignore or auto burn.

From their website if you don't want to go (and I am in no way affiliated with them, just willing to help any project using ravencoin) -

"What is RAVENLAND?
Ravenland aims to implement a blockchain asset layer which is optimized specifically for the use case of transferring land or other physical assets or agreements, such as tokens from one holder to another in a safe and secure manner utilizing the ravencoin network.

We want to use Ravencoin to sell slices of land or to transparently and seamlessly manage the co ownership of building assets using Raven signed digital blockchain keys, which assist both buyers in securing a share of larger assets and assists sellers in securing the liquidity of larger assets not usually purchasable by a single buyer instantly and online.

This we feel would give the market a much wider region of trading, create a fairer, more fluid market liquidity and grant the new ability to trade existential assets of physical worth digitally 24 hours and 7 days a week without restriction, overcoming all borders via the token asset model, something we do not believe has been done before, and something which we believe will go a long way to revolutionizing the estate and land assets industries.

The middle men better watch closely or risk being left behind!
Welcome to RavenLand."
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ravencoin [RVN] PoW GPU Mining | Asset Transfer Blockchain (Updated ANN) on: February 13, 2019, 08:20:10 PM
Now that the asset layer has been live for several months now, i’m very interested to know if there have been any tokens that have actually been used for anything.   

Can someone fill me in, are there any projects currently that use the RVN token system?

Check this out  -  https://raven.wiki/wiki/Ravencoin_Wiki
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: September 04, 2018, 12:58:41 PM
Can confirm I received the refund. Thanks and good luck everyone.

Did you receive back your funds to the same address from where you sent coins?

Mine still didn't receive but Lauda said already refunded. Waiting for his confirmation where he has sent.

The address you have that currently holds NVST is where they sent the refund in BTC at the rate of slightly less than .000093 BTC / NVST
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 28, 2018, 03:42:41 PM


Thanks for the detailed explanation. If we are somewhere near .0000933 then from my initial BTC investment only around 1 out of 6 would be returned.

Not sure where you get that?  Initial rate was .0002036 BTC / NVST

So it is a 46% refund against btc value.  Now if you count the bcash fork it is a bit less.

If someone invested in ETH, for every 1 ETH they sent they are getting the equivalent of 1.22 back.  Not too bad for a consolation prize.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 28, 2018, 03:18:25 PM
You will be sent refund BTC to your address holding the NVST at the rate of about .000093 BTC / 1 NVST.

Could you please explain, how this translates to 40% of the invested btc?

At the initial ICO there was an equivalent of about 3055 BTC raised.  

The total funds raised per currency:
BTC: 1590.919664
LTC: 7807.588
XRP: 1325280.390
ETH: 6477.095
MAID: 765482
DASH: 1916.643
WAVES: 31145.630
DOGE: 23577240.970
ETC: 4126.090

Conversion rates per currency into BTC*:
BTC: 1
LTC: 0.01688190
XRP: 0.00010822
ETH: 0.12242700
MAID: 0.00019581
DASH: 0.07139310
WAVES: 0.00167559
DOGE: 0.00000109
ETC: 0.00760768

Total BTC raised (at these exchange rates): 3055.120324
Total USD raised at the BTC-USD price (Bitstamp): 7790556.826

As you can see, about half of this 3055 BTC value was in altcoins that many have not been converted to BTC yet, and their value against the BTC has gone down considerably.

August 13th, 2018 conversion rate:

BTC: 1
LTC: 0.00903533  (53%)
XRP: 0.00004485 (41%)
ETH: 0.04612566  (38%)
MAID: 0.00003805  (19%)
DASH: 0.02342568  (33%)
WAVES: 0.00032511 (19%)
DOGE: 0.00000037 (36%)
ETC: 0.00200381  (26%)

ETH alone raised about 790 BTC worth, and has declined in value so much that it is now worth only about 299 BTC.  So now we are down to ICO value at only 2564 BTC if you just look at that (But they may have converted some of the ETH for milestones so it is unclear what the actual number is).


60% of all ICO funds have been released per milestone schedule.  Which leaves 40% to be refunded to investors.  You can say 40% of 3055 is 1222 BTC but that won't be how it is done since the alt coins lost value.  The current 40% value is close to 1000 BTC.  And then there is a percentage of funds that were released for milestones that the team did not use and are included in the refund.  Escrows have done the math and told us the value of all funds to be released back to investors including unused forks is about 1400 BTC.  Now if altcoins surge in value and they do their conversions from remaining alts to BTC at that time we will have more than 1400 BTC.  If BTC starts to boom and altcoins lose their value, and they convert at that time, we may see less than 1400 BTC refund.

1400 divided by 15 million NVST tokens is .0000933 BTC per NVST refund.

I hope that makes sense.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 27, 2018, 02:11:24 PM
First, you'll need to download the zip file from https://github.com/Jpja/Sweep-XCP-Paperwallet (https://github.com/Jpja/Sweep-XCP-Paperwallet)

My case is that i am  having issues voting from the ledger nano S and has been impossible  sweep xcp tokens becouse doesnt recongnice the private key of the ledger hardware wallet.


I wouldn't worry about it too much.  The vote is showing a near impossibility to change, everyone will receive a refund.  You will be sent refund BTC to your address holding the NVST at the rate of about .000093 BTC / 1 NVST.

Check both the telegram and discord groups if you have the time.  The telegram group will contain any updates regarding Ton's project he is continuing and the discord group will contain updates on nemgun's project he appears to be continuing.  NVST holders may end up earning an investment in these divergent projects although I am not sure how it will happen.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended] NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet on: August 22, 2018, 04:19:45 PM
I recieved this message today in the bitcointalk forum:
"
NVO project is one of the largest frauds to take place to date.The "milestones" are only used as a pretext for extracting and misappropriating millions of dollars of investors money in unjust enrichment of a group of scammers who had no intention of finishing this project.This is all an act or drama they are playing out now in order to close in huge profit playing good cop/bad cop between themselves.The argument between the devs is only an excuse/smokescreen so they can walk free and clear with millions of dollars and hand you back a pittance after using your coins for over a year with bitcoin multiplying in price and stealing all the forks from those coins.

It is fraud and theft on a massive scale.

"
I contacted my lawyer who now makes contact to a specialist for economic crime in the eu - i am willing to fill a lawsuit in the European Union against all members of the nvo board and also against the escrow - i don´t know if any of them lives in Europe, but i hope so. The first step is to file charges at the police in Germany, which will be done today. I have a pretty good legal expenses insurance which will pay for the lawyers - i would be even fine with a legal settlement, but i would prefer to see some of these scammers in court.
it´s not even about the money, i "only" invested 2 btc - but i am so pissed about this team, the miscommunication and where all this led to. Nevertheless, i am not very confident that this will head anywhere - but at least i will give it a try.

I think the team only developed the "wallet" for the milestone. The escrow holds still most of the coins - so the escrow is also in possession of the fork money (BCC, BCG, BCD etc.) - they have no right to keep that money. 

I liked the concept too, but this smells all too fishy - the delays, tswrs shilling, the murder story told by ton, the story that imed is a psychopath, the disappear of yanni and so on - that all sounds like a very bad mexican daily soap.

Just fyi.

I applaud your decision to take legal action against these people. Many of the investors got confused, scammed or simply have reconciled with fact that their investment is complete loss and the project won't be viable. I hope more victims will follow your example and proceed like you. Remember that 3% of the ICO contributors haven't received their tokens yet and now the team is using them most probably to cast votes for refund and enrich themselves even more.

Cooly,  in the same post you are claiming investors will have a complete loss yet NVO team will try to receive refund from the 3% of holders still to receive their tokens.  So which is it smartypants?  Complete loss or refund?
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 21, 2018, 06:38:27 PM
Some ignorant peeps in here.

Bluelogic is fairly dead-on.

Here is what was said about the milestones:

- 30% release at the end of the crowdsale.
- 30% at the delivery of the beta wallet and first API Cluster

So no matter what - the team received 30% of crowdsale funds to begin the project.  Not sure why anyone thinks they are entitled to a refund for that.  They obviously progressed and started things.

The beta wallet and API Cluster were indeed completed.  And we have even been told they still plan on completing version 1.3 which should correct most of the problems with the current versions.
I was able to receive funds from 5 blockchains and send out 3 of those.  Kind of sucks but if we do get this update version 1.3 then they are cleared a bit in that regard. (NVO if you are reading this don't let me down)

So we are entitled to 40% of crowdsale proceeds.  They raised the equivalent of 3055 BTC but much of that was in alts that have crashed in BTC value since then.  Even with that, we are still receiving about 46% refund.  Which means you are making money in fiat terms, and doing better than if you put all your money in ETH and many other alts.

This doesn't excuse the performance of this team and their inability to solve internal problems.

To those of you thinking you should receive a full refund, I join you in your disappointment over the outcome of this project but not in your assessment of its expected resolution.
And if any of you think the original ICO addresses should get the refund you should have your head examined.



12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 17, 2018, 01:27:39 PM
The refund is actually more than 40%

40% refund would be about .0000814 BTC / NVST

We are going to receive about .0000933 BTC / NVST which is close to 46% refund in BTC terms.  in USD terms we are actually making a little and doing better than if we had put all our money into ETH.

I am not trying to sugarcoat this, just trying to point out the positives, and the fact that this wasn't a scam, or at the worst it was a partial scam where you only really lost if you bought at above ICO price.


13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 12, 2018, 05:28:12 PM
Anyone with half a brain can see from both the preliminary vote and from general consensus across all chats that a refund is the overwhelming winner of any vote that will and has ever been done.  Stop with the useless time wasting and just proceed with the refund already.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 10, 2018, 02:14:18 PM
The DEX is based on Blockstream technology, with integral support for smart contracts, sidechains, and peer-to-peer communication services to keep latency low and throughput high for each node of the network. Sidechains enable the plugin system, and smart contracts enable the trade validator.
You can do anything you want once you have proven live through video call you are capable of coding even a "calculator". You are not a developer so what are you doing in my project. Remove yourself and tell escrows to do a buyback/refund.

With a complete screen of all funds spent and future accounting, I see no reason why we cannot continue.  Whether or not he can code is irrelevant if we can see where the money is going.  He would have no ability to scam if distributions are only allowed through a trusted third party.  This is the best solution.  Unless you have something to hide?
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 10, 2018, 02:27:42 AM
For those wondering, there is another communication medium for this project. Myself (NYR), TSWR and RadiumSoup run this discord.

https://discord.gg/YvB5HXp

Considering loads of people are banned each day from telegram for no reason, it is good to have a second way of receiving information.

All we ask is keep the discussion respectful. Smiley Come join us!!

I support this message.  Telegram appears to be the most popular chat room now, and it is unfortunate that frequent censorship is going on there.  Messages are being deleted and people are being banned left and right, often just for stating opinions with civility that threaten Ton’s narrative and image.  If he is telling the truth and is right in his accusations of nemgun, he shouldn’t act like a paranoid dictator but instead have faith in the integrity of his campaign.  Discord is not controlled by him and is a place to freely discuss facts in the quest for clarity.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 06, 2018, 08:55:46 PM
Achieve great success. i hope your investments grow and your team gets the reward they deserve.

now that is funny
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 06, 2018, 05:43:08 PM
-nonsense snipped -
So I propose that the remaining funds that I am entitled to for the previous milestones be released to me so I can continue development of the DEX, and then investors should be refunded everything that is still in escrow as they are entitled to.
The holders (community) will vote (weighted) on where they want the project to go. Neither you nor Ton are currently in the position to make this call.
the community or the investors? weighted according the amount of NVO tokens in the wallets right now or the amount of BTC invested during the ICO?
Holders (which is what the community consists of), not investors. To prevent people from receiving double refunds in cases where, e.g., you invested, then sold everything and now want a refund, this would go based on current NVST holdings.

Note that this was a suggestion by some community member. All options considered, it seems to be the best one.


Refunds should only be sent back in the exact denomination they were sent in to the same address they were sent from.The matching amount of NVST that was given at that time for those funds should also be sent back to the developers

Anyone who sold their NVST loses the amount calculated off the original base cost unless they can replace them to be sent back to the so called developers.

Calculating refunds only based on NVST holdings is fraudulent and allows anyone to buy NVST and enter the refund pool.It also allows developers who have already misappropriated funds and bought NVST to enter the refund pool escalating the fraud.



Are you kidding.  If you sold your NVST you sold any involvements or entitlements.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 06, 2018, 04:22:01 PM
The holders (community) will vote (weighted) on where they want the project to go. Neither you nor Ton are currently in the position to make this call.

A 72 hours time frame for such a mess will just leave the fate of the project in the hands of a handful of people that hold a large amount of assets. In my opinion if not enough people are represented for the vote a decision that goes towards either of the sides shouldn't be taken, because it's going to be based on what a few whales voted. That's just my opinion and it comes from the fact that a lot of people are not checking the project for updates because the developers have been really poor with communications and deadlines. Bigger holders are more active and interested in this, so they will make moves. Good luck mobilizing the rest 5000 people in three days.

People should just be allowed to decide who they support again by reinvesting if they want to, why this hasn't been considered. Didn't we took enough damage from the founders ignorance and lack of generic approach to the project? I mean, you've seen what a year of progress has brought.

A lot of smaller holders haven't even heard about the project being torn down to pieces. It's going to take several hundreds of people to overthrow a decision made by any of the top 5 whales. I don't think people will mobilize quick enough to react and make the vote fair. Don't expect more than 30% voter turnout, will be curious to see if I am wrong. There's usually systems in place to protect for low voting turnout, is there going to be anything like this here or this is final?

Because if it's final, 2-3 people will decide the project's fate since it's weighted. And it's fair to be weighted since they've put most money in it, that's fine, but I am arguing that there isn't enough time and it has been communicated poorly. At least an extend in time?

Also none of the sides presented any information to help us decide, as far as I am concerned, no one has provided any proof. Just claims against each other.

I agree.  A vote based on the proof-less claims of the divided group that failed us does not make sense.  A refund is the only logical answer.  The project we invested in will never come to fruition according to the terms of our investment.  Let the two remaining leaders continue their projects under a new set of terms and investors.
 
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 06, 2018, 04:15:34 PM
I "invested" 8BTC into this so called ICO crowsale so I want my 8BTC back.You can keep the Btrash for yourself as it is only a shitcoin along with all other forks but I would like my Bitcoin as in real bitcoin BTC refunded.



Lol. If you didn't read the OP a year ago then I don't feel sorry for you. Maybe now would be a good time to read into and get to understand what you invested in and how the escrows work in this situation.

Keep your Lol to yourself asshole.Your opinion is as irrelevant as you are.I have read the farcical OP and even the statement about Maidsafe on it breaches the original agreement nullifying any contractual T&C's.Funds released from escrow will legally have to be returned by these clowns to anyone who requests a refund.

Better to not paying attention to piece of shit like Chris also like TSWR, centermissing, radiumsoup (list is not complete) – they reveal themselves as a dirty sock puppets and shills.

Don't be an idiot we all invested and are all in the same boat.  I want a refund just as much as you. 
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: August 03, 2018, 04:20:29 AM
what's the difference NVO to other decentralized exchanges? thank you
this is a copy and paste  from telegram that I wrote in response to someone worrying about competition so its a little off from what you initially asked

9 NVO is partnered with coin payments, coin payments is a payment processor for almost all cryptocurrencies and they have a vendor base of almost 800k.
Are there any notable shops that use Coin Payments? The store directory doesn't really look promising at all from what I can tell..
here you go https://www.coinpayments.net/store-directory
porn hub uses them for all crypto they acccept. and the reason I used PH for the example is because they are a very big name.

riiiggghhhhttttt.....
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