yeah, they hold BTC for a long time. first we didn't get any HBC or a little HBC because it is hard to get coin in ICO (server issue). Then, after that for anyone want to withdraw BTC, they didn't open the withdrawal, already 1+ month i guess. they have a reason and i'm still waiting for them to open the BTC withdrawal. I'm not saying that this is scam but you get it why so many ppl say so.