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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS on: October 01, 2017, 09:33:23 AM
Nice idea dev...finally another different thing...seems to understand that POW part of the experiment is over? So we can't mine anymore?

Yes, that is correct. Mining is over. The OP has been updated to reflect that fact.

I set up a block explorer at http://multipos.net:3001/

The explorer will take some customization to support the multiple currencies on the chain, but it has basic functionality.

I'm up for suggestions on distribution. I mined a lot of all the coins and can give them away, but the giveaway plan has to be a good one.

I can give bounties for help with distribution too.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS on: October 01, 2017, 07:01:00 AM
New Release: v1.1.0.1

The new release is available that will allow for pure PoS to take over at Monday, October 2, 2017 4:00:00 AM GMT. The chain will be frozen at block 94478 until that time. After that, PoS will continue. This is approximately 21 hours from the time of this post.

Download links are in the OP and at github: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/tag/v1.1.0.1
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now on: September 30, 2017, 08:15:45 AM
If I didn't know any better I would say all the other variants of coins in this experiment were code named for real coins and this was just an experiment in gullibility.

We mined a bunch of real coins for the developer in this 'experiment'.

His first post basically stated cryptically that was the deal.

Am I wrong, developer?

That would be very interesting, but if you solo mine to your own node, no one can "steal" your hashes.

Stake what coins you mined and we will see where this will go.

You can look at the hashes you contributed, compare to the mining difficulty and to your reward. You will see you earned the rewards you mined. Also, the total mining on this coins I think was about $200, and I believe I payed about $180 of that on my own hashes. I need to do the math myself. It could be more and it could be less.

There wasn't much investment in this experiment, so no one should have been out anything but some time. I hit it with a lot of hashes myself, which probably spoiled mining to some extent.

I'll take ideas on the best way to give coins away. I can burn a ton of coins and have a protracted mining period. Or I can give them away, but I need a good way to give them away and some Sr. Members and above with at least neutral rep to help distribution.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now on: September 30, 2017, 07:40:33 AM
The chain stopped a few hours ago because I did some bad math (too many proof of work blocks for the rewards). I'm going to put out a release within 1 day that goes full PoS. Thanks for mining! My apologies for the stuck chain.

The bad math stopped mining about 20 hr too soon, which would have led straight into pure PoS.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now on: September 16, 2017, 07:54:17 AM

I just realized I messed up the interest rates, but not fatally.

The interest rate calculations right now are based on any individual currency's getting all the blocks.

Of course this can't happen because there are 14 staking currencies, so in the future, shortly after the PoW period is over, I will change the calculation to something like this:

Code:
award = interest_rate_P * money_supply_P * (time_now - time_of_last_block_of_P) / (seconds_in_a_year * 100)

Where P is one of the staking currencies.

The 100 in the denominator simply means that interest_rate_P is expressed as a percentage. Although interest will compound every time a block is found for P, difficulty adjustments will prevent the compounding from influencing the interest rate to any non-trivial extent. Compounding is bounded by the continuous compounding equation, anyway.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now on: September 16, 2017, 06:16:22 AM

To see your balances go to Help -> Debug -> Console in the menu and type "getbalances".


I am mining with a lot of power right now. I don't know what others are mining with, but you need a real miner, not a USB stick.

If I dominate mining, we can have an airdrop / signature campaign or something. I would prefer mining though.

I'd like to get the coins distributed, but don't want the chain to be weak, so I am hitting it with decent hashes.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now on: September 15, 2017, 09:25:46 AM
Though not added to the build yet as a hardcoded node, please use the following in your conf. I would add it but am looking at hosting providers for permanent nodes. The current hard coded one is permanent. I will add 2 more when I settle on hosting. The following is temporary:

addnode=162.254.26.79
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now on: September 15, 2017, 01:23:49 AM
 I have completly lost the network today while i was gone.   Does anyone have working nodes that i can add to the roaming folder.  Thankyou

Please restart your client. The seednode went down for a while and took the network with it. As more people jump on, things will improve.

I will set up a couple of more seednodes soon as well.



Also Please Update to the Latest Release

https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/tag/v1.0.0.2

The previous release skipped some currencies for mining. This hits all currencies with coins left. Please mine with it.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now on: September 14, 2017, 08:16:34 PM
And how to know which coin is mined or can you tell which are on the list?

You will know from the wallet. In the GUI, you will see in Transactions tab. In the CLI, you can use the command listtransactions.


This looks like a fair launch to me good going.  I just want to ask is pow a set amount of pow blocks or just x blocks total and could you let us know last pow block. Thank you

It is in the ANN. All coins but 2 have a PoW max at 63,000,000. One can't be mined and one has 15 max.

Mining pool ?

No pool operators have come forth. I will try to set one up that mines directly into your wallet.


How to get free coin dev ?  Cheesy

I am mining a lot of coins, so this may be possible, for bounties perhaps.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS on: September 14, 2017, 12:51:34 PM
PoS-N

About

PoS-N not a coin. It is a blockchain with many coins. It is PURELY EXPERIMENTAL and no currencies on the chain may have any value whatsoever. The developer makes no promises to develop any infrastructure except a seed node and block crawler. Mine these currencies if you want to participate in this experiment.In this sense, it is very similar to bitcoin, in that the only value at the time of launch is what knowledge may come of the experiment.

If you want to mine coins on this chain only to dump them as soon as they hit an exchange YOU WILL HAVE TO DO THE WORK TO GET THE COINS YOU MINE LISTED. The goal of the experiment is NOT to make money for miners. Period. Miners need to form communities around their coins and do the work to make money. Remember: It is an experiment, and the only thing I will attempt to do is to make sure mining works, is fair, and that PoS will work.

So what is the experiment? The experiment is to find out the optimal interest rate for a proof of stake coin. Miners will mine the chain, and mine a different random currency with a different stake rate. Staking begins after the mining period.  The interest rates of the various coins in the random rotation follow the Fibonacci sequence: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597.

Because Every block miners (scrypt) will randomly mine one of many currencies, I don't know how pools will react or properly distribute currencies according to mining power.  I anticipate some confusion and perhaps errors with distribution from pools, so mine to pools at your own risk, and please do not blame pool operators for any problems in distribution. It will most likely not be their fault. Pools may or may not want to bother trying to adapt pool software to this chain. Whether they do or not has the same effect on everyone mining, so the process will be still be fair.

Mining is a flat reward for the currencies so that the last block will earn the same as the first block. Currencies in the random rotation are awarded 9375 coins per block. All currencies in the random rotation will have 63,000,000 money supplies at the end of mining.

I had to pick a currency for the GUI (which I needed for so-called "fair launch", this currency has the ticker of PSN, named after the chain. It is merely a matter of convenience and because it has an inflation rate of 1%, being the lowest number of the Fibonacci sequence. If you want to mine only this currency or any currency, set the mineonly flag to PSN in the config file. Even if you don't set the flag, you will randomly mine PSN.

My goal in choosing PSN for the GUI was not to play favorites, but to have a default currency for noobs who want to look at a GUI wallet. I also guessed that 1% interest rate may not be a great incentive for adoption, and that choosing this single currency for the GUI for launch would give it a significant advantage over other currencies.  The GUI should support as many currencies as needed in time, or specialized GUIs could be created for each currency if communities evolve around them.

All currencies are equals by the CLI client, which is what most experienced miners can use the CLI to create addresses and send coins. Instructions will be posted in time, or users can consult the help output of the CLI.

This coin is experimental, but in observation of good practice DOES have a fair launch period of one hour, or 300 blocks, of 1 coin per block. The regular PoW block reward is 9375 coins. Also in observation of fair launch practices, a windows wallet is available (necessitating having a default currency in the GUI).


Downloads

GitHub: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n

Latest Release: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/tag/v1.1.0.1

Windows Installer: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/tag/v1.1.0.1 (can't link directly to it here)

Windows Zip: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/download/v1.1.0.1/PoSN-Qt-1.1.0.1-Win32.zip

Mac DMG: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/download/v1.1.0.1/PoSN-Qt-1.1.0.1-OSX.dmg


VirusTotal

* Install-PoSN-1.1.0.1.exe
* https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/7cab4e475ec21dcdcc9ecc510ad13879cfaf7a9054d3a99b9d5b4f4ca5178558/detection
* 0/64

* PoSN-Qt-1.1.0.1-Win32.zip
* https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a85641b82ea2f22ba9bdcf6a1ad7e92d7df0d538eeae0f430cfabf4253c11072/detection
* 0/61

* PoSN-Qt-1.1.0.1-OSX.dmg
* https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/09055c23f8d8d9d0bfbc0983569824489eb7c399f9dc53604a4d696385fa7ed3/detection
* 0/58

* PoSN-Daemon-1.1.0.1-Ubuntu-16.04.tar
* https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/86ed8bd7b3e43604204eb9038106bbad36ac5819d25fd946a03f3bd2e9dd7929/detection
* 0/58



Block Explorer

http://multipos.net:3001/


Mining

Mining is complete.

This coin can be mined with standard miners:

Code:
./minerd -a scrypt -u RPCUSERNAME -p RPCPASSWORD -o 127.0.0.1:50414

Stats

* Tickers of Random Rotation: PRM, PSN, P03 ... P17
* Algo: scrypt
* PoW Block Times: 12 Seconds
* PoS Block Times: 2 Minutes
* Max PoW for Random Rotation: 63,000,000
* Block Reward: 9375
* PoW Duration: 94478 blocks (~13 days)
* Fair Launch Duration: 300 Blocks (1 hr),
* Fair Launch Block Reward: 1 coin
* PoS Rewards (First 3 years):  1, 2, 3, 5 ... 1597%
* PoS Rewards (After 3 years): Lower of initial interest rate or 4%
* Peer-to-Peer Port: 29861 (testnet 29862)
* RPC Port: 50414 (testnet 50415)
* Net Magic: 0xef, 0xff, 0xfb, 0xed (testnet 0xf9, 0xbb, 0xfd, 0xff)
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