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CasinoGuru does not mediate sportsbetting-related cases. They will not handle the case. AskGamblers does mediation to sportsbetting-related cases, so yes, [to answer OP's question above about sport betting branch] they have that "branch", but apparently sportbet.one is not on their list. I initially suggested a mediator because I take a quick look at AG and found sportbet is on their list. I didn't take a deeper look into their page. Upon looking at them just now, it came to my awareness that not only it's sportbet[dot]com [not [dot]one], it's also terminated from AG due to the lack of response. There are other gambling ADR bodies besides AG and CG, but I also didn't find sportbet on them. Thanks for the help anyway, probably a dead end now |
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not sure but definitely try. They have been successful.
They don't seem to have sportbet.one on their list and doesn't let me create a case against them unless they are on the list of casinos. Also looks like they do not have a sports betting branch. |
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is your case being heard at casinoguru or askgamblers yet?
Casinoguru emailed back saying they don't have a branch dealing with sports betting complaints. Does askgamblers deal with sportsbetting complaints? |
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is your case being heard at casinoguru or askgamblers yet?
I have a case open at casinoguru, it did not let me submit a complaint before but it worked now. |
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You aren’t going to make the most profit buying back in house. If you are that good at predicting line movement then you should just be betting one side. There are sites out there that show arbs every day using two books. Some sites call it sure bets. Even if you do it your way and wait for movement, having a provider with different lines will be best. Most people that arb are putting up more than $200.
If the OP is getting a ton of money down on the same bets then he is multi-accounting or working as a team. Once again it comes down to looking at bet slips from all involved.
I have no idea what's even happening in this thread now. I do not use a bot, I am not arbing, my bets are just value bets on mostly esports. I did not multi-account, I signed up to sportsbets.one which the same email I signed up to bitcointalk 7 years ago. I also do not understand bot betting as you mentioned I do before, I still don't believe this is a real thing lol |
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I know lots of cases where people have used bots. Bad line would be a line of 2.58 but they mistakenly put up 3.58. This type of bet should be voided. I forget what the normal percentage is that's used but normally they use what should be the no vig line and if it's off by a certain percentage then it's a bad line. I'm searching for an article that explains it much better than I'm doing here.
Okay like a stale line I see what you mean, no I didn't bet on any of those. Their prematch sportsodds are just pinnacles lines and their live odds are the same as bet365. Not sure if they use the same software or are scraping the odds, but it's all the same shit. Not really much 'abuse' I can do there, if I could beat pinnacle or 365 live using a bot I would move countries and become a millionaire. |
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A lot of people do use bots. Doesn't seem you are doing anything wrong unless these lines are way off where you are betting into bad lines.
I have spoken to a lot of profitable bettors in the betting world and not one person has ever mentioned something like a betting bot that just wins you money. How would this even work? I've been betting for a living for 6 years now and I can tell you this is not a real thing. Unless you mean a betting model that runs data and gives projections, but I don't think this is what you mean either. Also can you elaborate on betting into bad lines? For example in my cancelled bets Seattle Surge @ 2.58 I would say is a value bet. Am I not allowed to bet this line on their site because I think they have priced an incorrect line? |
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To make it easy, do you use bots? In a case like this that is normally the claim, electronic means.
edit, I hope that the OP isn't using a bot.
I am not using a bot. I don't even think there's such thing as a bot which can place value bets, how would that even work? Sounds like something made up by betting sites |
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Do you mind to provide them to an arbitrator, though? They can keep those evidence related to your algorithm private, just for the arbitrator's eyes, which they'll use to verify and validate your counter-accusation.
OP, suppose the casino are willing to get it escalated to an arbitrator, please choose one and stick to that one only. If you both agreed to a mediator, their findings and ruling will be considered final and bindings to both parties and you two should honor their decision.
That is fine by me, I'm willing to go along with that. |
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Is this your second complaint against Sportsbet.one? Looking at your bet slips I've seen this one before. Do you know what their limits are for esports?
It's my first compliant but yeah I posted on their official megathread thing. Their limits on esports are whatever I was betting, most of the time betting the max I could. It's his first compliant against Sportsbet.one as far as I know. There is a duplicate complaint in their ANN thread too. OP's very first complaint against a casino in this forum was involving Esportsbet.io though we don't know if the issue got resolved. The issue with esportsbet.io was never resolved, I got scammed for 1.2btc by them. Hi guys. The OP has clarified everything by himself. Nothing to add... We can't disclose how our fraud detection algorithm works.
good talk! glad you had a lot to add here OP, if perhaps the discussion here is a bit unclear to you due to your unfamiliarity with CasinoGuru and other arbitrators, they act as a mediator where casino and player can share private information in confidence to get situations sorted out.
Many casinos prefer to get things resolved through such platforms when they have to provide sensitive data like their method of detection, their findings of multi-acc, or KYC-related issues due to an option that's offered by the platform where evidences can only be seen by limited eyes.
As such, as other suggested several times on this thread, perhaps you're interested to escalate things to CG, and sportbet.one's team are willing to share their findings with the arbitrator to get validated and verified.
Thank you for the info, I will try that out! |
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apart from the screenshot you have already shared, would you mind also sharing screenshots of the you had with their support where they accused you of the things you mentioned? they have an ANN thread but from the looks of it their forum representative is not that active here in the forum, the last time their representative was online was last April 29, but they didn't post anything. anyway, I sent their representative a PM informing them about this case, perhaps they can further elaborate what was the issue before they cancelled your bets and started to accuse you. The live chat doesn't save any conversations on my side. |
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they then accused me on live support of various vague things:
- bets are made by a group of clients acting in a coalition to bypass the restrictions established by the betting company;
- the client is suspected of using any software that automates the process of setting bets;
- the client uses the game account to play in arbitration situations;
- the client abuses the loyalty programs.
You can not prove that you have not done any of it too. In the case of group betting, sportsbook have tools to detect abusers but for legal reason they can not share evidence. So everyone is now guilty until proven innocent, do you know how much power this gives casinos? Is there a 3rd party who can verify their claims, surely something like that must exist. |
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Website is a scam, stay away: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5496056I bet at sportsbet.one for a week from apr25, deposited 0.92 eth and withdrew 1.52 eth sucessfully. Then had 3 pending bets left when they cut my account limits, they didn't settle them after 2 days of the result and after speaking with live support they told me they were having some issues. and would settle everything within 10 days.. another week after that conversation, they have now cancelled all 3 of my won bets, not returned the stake to my balance. basically just stolen the money, here's the cancelled bets: https://prnt.sc/S5WGelBDSgENthey then accused me on live support of various vague things: - bets are made by a group of clients acting in a coalition to bypass the restrictions established by the betting company; - the client is suspected of using any software that automates the process of setting bets; - the client uses the game account to play in arbitration situations; - the client abuses the loyalty programs. I have done none of these things, more than happy for them to come to this thread and provide what 'proof' they have of me breaking their terms and conditions, I will post my entire bet history below: https://imgur.com/a/FhkmvcILooking at their recent trustpilot it's spammed by people having the same issue, stay away. |
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I bet at sportbet.one for a week from apr25, deposited 0.92 eth and withdrew 1.52 eth sucessfully. Then had 3 pending bets left when they cut my account limits, they didn't settle them after 2 days of the result and after speaking with live support they told me they were having some issues. and would settle everything within 10 days.. another week after that conversation, they have now cancelled all 3 of my won bets, not returned the stake to my balance. basically just stolen the money, here's the cancelled bets: https://prnt.sc/S5WGelBDSgENthey then accused me on live support of various vague things: - bets are made by a group of clients acting in a coalition to bypass the restrictions established by the betting company; - the client is suspected of using any software that automates the process of setting bets; - the client uses the game account to play in arbitration situations; - the client abuses the loyalty programs. I have done none of these things, more than happy for them to come to this thread and provide what 'proof' they have of me breaking their terms and conditions, I will post my entire bet history below: https://imgur.com/a/FhkmvcILooking at their recent trustpilot it's spammed by people having the same issue, stay away. |
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Interested in speaking to you about this, message me on twitter @rhyspalburner or we can talk on discord dms
I got scammed 1.2btc by them 2 years ago and I'm currently trying to gather more evidence
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