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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: TekStart Bitcoin Miner - 1.5TH/s expands to 10TH/s on: May 30, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
Traditional fund-raising methods have been running in parallel for several months now.
2  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: TekStart Bitcoin Miner - 1.5TH/s expands to 10TH/s on: May 30, 2013, 05:52:01 PM
g8bluSti -> We are trying to avoid the same mistakes as BFL!

This is legit guys.

Honestly, I have never seen such a bunch of skeptics. Did Avalon and BFL do that much damage? I would be interested because we don't want to make the same mistake.

Here's the deal ... ever since the telecom/dotcom bust of 2001, the VC/angel community has punished the hardware community by snubbing its nose to legitimate companies with great semiconductor ideas. They were then spoiled by the eBay/Google/Facebook/Apple software apps. On one hand, I don't blame them. If you invest $1 in hardware, you may get $3 back at best. In software, you can get $10 to $20 (or more).

So why would you want to invest in hardware? Simply put, you can't run software without hardware. The VC's don't see it that way or refuse to see it.

As a result, we (the hardware collective, like the Avalon's, BFL's, BitFury etc.) cannot get the $2M to build this stuff. Therefore, we have to resort to some sort of investment play. Avalon and BFL chose to pre-sell. Where they failed is that they do not have experience in this market like we do. So when they designed and built this and it didn't work - DOH! We have to get help testing and debugging it. I don't know these guys personally, but I think it's the classic S/W engineer vs/ H/W engineer battle. We see it every day. S/W guys think H/W is easy. H/W thinks the S/W guys are idiots. Until the day, one of them has to work on the other side of that "wall". Then they learn a quick lesson. But that's a topic for another day.

We are a US (CA) based hardware team with >150 years experience. We don't have $2M in the bank and we're not putting our collective homes up for collateral to the bank. At least not the married ones.

So let me clear up a few misconception on the eBay ad:

- We are looking for an investor with deep pockets. To build a 10TH/s system is not for the faint of heart. The $425K amount is just to take the FPGA protoype to ASIC and produce the first box (the investor gets to keep the box and generate revenue with it).
- Once that works, then we will either pre-sell the 10TH/s boxes for $95K each and then go to production, OR we will have the same investor take this to the next level and pony up the remaining $2M needed to go to production of the boxes. The investor would then either take a fixed number of boxes for themselves, or market the boxes themselves. Anything is a possibility.
- IN ADDITION, we will also sell our ASIC chip (10GH/s) on the open market to all who wish to build custom boxes (a la the Avalon method). Currently, the projected price is $50 per chip.

An alternative strategy is to presell the chip order and foprget about systems altogether. That said, the investor would need to come up with about $1.2M (instead of $2M).

Let me know if this is interesting to you. You know how to reach us.

Cheers
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Alternatives to Bitcoin on: May 13, 2013, 07:57:56 PM
Besides Bitcoin, I have also heard of Lightcoin. How many other digital currencies are there in the market?

We need to look at our 2nd generation machine and see if we need to target these other digital currencies.

Thanks
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