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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 07, 2013, 02:45:40 PM
I think the biggest issue you have to address is time. A good RPG takes years to fully develop. A good MMORPG takes many more years. How many will still be into GPU mining then?

What you're saying sounds a lot like entropia online. People invest money into a what is, basically a casino, and some lose big returns, most make small returns or break even, some win big returns. It's a cool idea, though, and it works with Entropia as it is addictive as balls. Instead of money, they're investing hashes, which they could go out and invest in a pool on their own or risk it in the game.


Unlike Entropia universe you do not need to invest any money, the game would be free to play and fuelled by the coins mined for both players and owners (that gets a % of the coins mined and transactions in game) as if the game is popular and stable more players will come and the value of the game coin will increase. And again it's not a casino, it's a real rpg system, at least it has the barebone elements of it, but not at all a casino.

There would be a player based economy on a layer to acquire specific items to improve their gameplay speed and effectiveness, all on top on the baseline coin mining within the 3d environment.

While it's true that mmorpgs takes years to develop, nowadays we have toold like HeroEngine, so you have all the technology ready, just need to integrate game assets, gameplay and the cryptocoins system (you can start with a limited amount of gameplay/textures and expand with progressive patches). I have a quite reasonably good idea for the tools, the only missing puzzle I'm weak is if it's feasible and how to adapt and integrate the cryptocoin wallet/generator on top of an existing set of technologies.
2  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 06, 2013, 04:06:54 PM
All games are faucets. You can play on minecraftcc.com. They pay straight up for mining out any new block. I believe they are free.
The other one is 5 dollars and you're in the game. Free to earn after that. The server admin has stated that is all you need and you can play for free. There is no need to donate after that. The big donaters fuel the servers, but it isn't neccessary.

If you want a game where everyone can get free bitcoins without any sort of donation/pay to play method, how would they ever stay afloat?

If you want a 3d game that allows you to give hashes while you play, I wouldn't expect much graphically while your GPUs are trying to do 2 things at once.

A neat GUI faux RPG like Progress Quest masking a miner... that'd be entertaining.

Considering the power of most rigs to the average modern pc, you could just use 10-20% of the gpu to create great graphic, 2 to 4 7950 are overkill even for the top game at 2560x1600, so basically you can create a profiler so get 50% gpu in normal condition (average pc card), or 10% gpu with 4 cards or less, and the rest would be used for mining with a difficulty adjusted to the amount of players, so you always get a balanced number of coins around the world.

It wouldn't be just masking a miner, but create a real rpg gaming experience with all the basic elements and a virtual currency generated within the game, just like any mmorpg virtual currency but with a difference that it's limited overtime and can be easily exchanged with bitcoins or other altcoins.

My point is to bring more rpg players to the cryptocurrency world, because all current games are based on making just tiny bits of bitcoins but there is no real gaming experience behind, no real mmorpg fans would be hooked on this level of poor gameplay. The people who are playing those games, would most likely go through all the web faucets and gamble on the web casinos.

3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 06, 2013, 03:20:30 PM
No idea. Just pulled it from the wiki searching for minecraft + bitcoin. I'm not affiliated nor have I tried it at all.

There is also this: https://thebitmines.com . More of what I think the OP was looking for.

Thanks but far from it! Smiley  This is a minecraft based faucet, people deposit btc and playing they get back a tiny bit here and there, and the game owner makes money through sign ups or people deposits. Would be great to see a concept which is not a casino game or a faucet masked in a 3d environment but a true rpg environment even with extremely simplified gameplay compared to fully-fledged mmorpgs Smiley
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 06, 2013, 02:55:04 PM
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BitVegas

Looks like this is the one?

Quite neat actually!

This is a virtual casino based on premined bitcoins by the game owners or players.

I'm talking about more of a real rpg game with exploration, mining and mobs, something towards Guild Wars 2 or Skyrim (but in a small scale), and with its own p2p currency mined by all machines as part of a pool that distribute the coins to the game world while playing in real time, totally different concept. Plus with this one you need to buy minecraft, while I'm talking about a totally f2p game.
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 06, 2013, 02:42:02 PM
Theres a cool minecraft server that does just this.

Link? I can only find 3d games that simulate casino games in a 3d environment, so basically the same logic of those casino web games but wrapper in a 3d world, and using bitcoins not producing their own currency. Would be great to check out if you have got some links.
6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 06, 2013, 02:03:10 PM
It's certainly an interesting idea.  I could definitely see an MMO using this concept, kind of like a next generation Second Life leveraging crypto currency instead of virtual currency.

I bet you could take advantage of a pool using the data from shares to generate terrain and content using procedural generation.  Might just be the next big thing in free games (I.E. the game is free, and the subscription is paid through game client mining on a pool)  Certainly no small effort involved in making such a thing, but it's not impossible.
Cool, nice to hear that while it most likely required a big effort by a large indie development team at least, it looks feasible.

Anyone interested in the idea with time and (c++/javascript, cryptocurrency programming and 3d modelling knowledge) feel free to post here, perhaps there is the basis to develop the discussion and possibly create a growing indie team. I'm a professional based in London with over a decade of experience in brand identity, graphic design, web and user interface design, and I have a wide understanding in all game development components audio as enthusiast (sound design, music composition), gameplay development and technologies and business development, and I play online rpgs since early 80s and studying monetisation business models/real money involved in rpgs for quite some time, so art direction, user interface design, brand identity, online marketing and part of the gameplay and business planning would be covered.

So I would really need interested professionals with development, networking and modelling experience, perhaps knowledge of Unity3d or heroEngine? Smiley
7  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 06, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
I think he's having the entire server hosted on a peer to peer network rather than the currency. So that each node on the peer to peer network acts as part of a giant cloud, hosting the game server.

Who/which game are you talking about?

You, i thought that's what you were asking about.

Ah sorry, the "he's" without even quoting me was not too clear. Care to go a bit in detail about how feasible is and the approach?
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 06, 2013, 01:30:20 PM
I think he's having the entire server hosted on a peer to peer network rather than the currency. So that each node on the peer to peer network acts as part of a giant cloud, hosting the game server.

Who/which game are you talking about?
9  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 06, 2013, 11:52:37 AM
WoW has no cryptocurrency implemented but an unlimited virtual currency stored in a server. While I'm interested to know if there is any game actually producing  limited cryptocurrency (with some sort of centralised and p2p combined) at its core and get it distributed through gameplay. The minecraft or Dragon tale rpg games I have seen look like they are just re-using existing currency like bitcoins and moving them around between players through casino games-like logic.

I'm talking more about a cryptowallet + miner + 3d interface and exploring-rpg gameplay all integrated from scratch including a brand new currency that can be mined only through gameplay but can still be traded through exchange adoption. The p2p system would use player embedded miners to generate currency, and each block generated would not go to the players but distributed in the game world, each coin would contain a randomly generated coordinate string within the game 3d space limits and all coordinates would get published in real-time, so everyone has a chance to target a specific location convenient to them, to fight all the mobs and terrains problem and acquired the coin that will go to the embedded wallet.

Profit would be generated by % of currency generated to the game owner. And all sort of incentive can be applied, like faster % character movements if you provide better mining speed with your rig and so on.

Plus all rpg like I have seen are quite poor in term of graphic and gameplay, I mean to create something that gets closer to games like Skyrim, and a gameplay that it's not casino like, but real rpg-style exploration.

From there, players can trade in game for specific power ups that improves the chance to fight obstacles faster, they can trade coins offline using just the embedded wallet connected or perhaps a companion ios/android app just with the wallet features like blockchain.

10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 06, 2013, 11:32:15 AM
Are you sure you are talking about a game producting its own cryptocurrency and players fight to acquire it in the game, or it's just a 3d minecraft interface to move existing coins around? Any link?
11  Other / Beginners & Help / Mining Rpg Game with crypto mining points, feasible? on: June 06, 2013, 10:38:05 AM
To all developers,

would be feasible to create a peer to peer randomly generated 3d space maintained like cryptocoins where coins are autogenerated with coordinates but users while playing and verified, allowing players to go to the location as fast as possible to mine them through a 3d interface like an rpg world, and then create a 3d/ui layer over it populate the rpg with all sort of obstacles (like monsters your usual fantasy or sci-fi theme) to make it difficult for players to reach the coordinates and mine first.

Cheers.

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