Great! Glad to see the larger miners are finally getting their payouts, after only a week of complete silence from the pool operator. Let's not forget that there is still the issue of the 25% clawback he made to pay himself back for the mistake he made. I know the internet community can sometimes have a pretty short attention span, but I really hope people don't reward this kind of unethical and poor service by continuing to mine here. From my understanding, this is the second time something like this has happened with this pool. How many times are people going to allow themselves to get burned before moving to a more reputable pool?
Second time ? Took me awhile to find the reference, man, your poor decisions have sure created a lot of posts on this forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172667.60.. That was just a display bug, it was just implemented and had a bug in it. A few days before there wasn't even a 24h earnings counter.
|
|
|
Great! Glad to see the larger miners are finally getting their payouts, after only a week of complete silence from the pool operator. Let's not forget that there is still the issue of the 25% clawback he made to pay himself back for the mistake he made. I know the internet community can sometimes have a pretty short attention span, but I really hope people don't reward this kind of unethical and poor service by continuing to mine here. From my understanding, this is the second time something like this has happened with this pool. How many times are people going to allow themselves to get burned before moving to a more reputable pool?
Second time ?
|
|
|
So too busy with "real life" to deal with the business you have online, yet you were able to login several times a day to the forums, just chose to not post anything. HINT: We can see when you login. I hope you never start your own business in "real life" as if you run it with the same kind of ethics and attitude as you do this pool, it will surely fail.
Ofcourse I've logged in several times, that doesn't mean I have time to do anything.
|
|
|
Nicksasa is back after buying back cheaper litecoins? He stole peoples litecoins when LTC was at $5 on BTC-e. Now $2 . Good profit.
Right, because I haven't sold any ltc in the last 2 months.
|
|
|
" Derpederp I steal your Litecoins but it's okay because I have a real life. ".
Piss off dude. Your ignorant attitude isn't making things better. Stop being a fucking douche.
Did I just say that ? No, I didn't.
|
|
|
Ah ofcourse I can't have real life stuff happening too, I'm not human after all. But seriously, hot wallet is for the most part refilled, more will be added today for the users with a "very" large balance. The page will be up asap. And no I haven't disappeared .. what would be the point of that ? @ and the 1% that's still displayed on the site was in d/m/y format, not m/d/y, I've just been too busy with real life things to remove it from the site. I call this BS. In my account there isnt any balance so you returned NOTHING You may have filled the wallet for ppl to withdraw their remaining balance, after what you stole from. I stopped mining right after this thread, and withdrew any funds i had there, so my balance is 0. And still is 0. (Should we really trust our funds on a 15yo kid's pool?) 15yo ? You just made me lol, even in all this mess And didn't you read ? The page for the users that were taken too much isn't up yet. Where did I state it was done automatically ? Nowhere, exactly.
|
|
|
Ah ofcourse I can't have real life stuff happening too, I'm not human after all. But seriously, hot wallet is for the most part refilled, more will be added today for the users with a "very" large balance. The page will be up asap. And no I haven't disappeared .. what would be the point of that ? @ and the 1% that's still displayed on the site was in d/m/y format, not m/d/y, I've just been too busy with real life things to remove it from the site.
|
|
|
Lol, so i should even give the users that got paid 2.5 days it back. Come on, srsly ? Remember when btcguild paid out 1250BTC too much ... And no it's not that easy to tell who got paid double, there is no diffrence in the db if a user is using stratum or getwork.
Yes you should pay back _everyone_ you took money from. Like you said you can't tell who did benefit and who didn't. It was your mistake you should pay for it. You sir, are living in a dream world.
|
|
|
I don't even understand why you are STILL going on with this, i have already said i will put a page or so up for the people that got taken too much. Keep ignoring it and bashing me, we'll see where it gets you. I'm done.
You have all the information you need to correct this issue in your database. You know who got paid double (If any), you know who you took money from. If you already had money to cover the losses you wouldn't have stolen 25% already. Instead of asking people to come to you why don't you just give back the 25% you stole already. Anything less is a theft for your mistake. Lol, so i should even give the users that got paid 2.5 days it back. Come on, srsly ? Remember when btcguild paid out 1250BTC too much ... And no it's not that easy to tell who got paid double, there is no diffrence in the db if a user is using stratum or getwork.
|
|
|
You are saying "stole" as it was for personal intentions... At that point i HAD no choice. I should've just kept it quiet and let the pool go total bankrupt then I guess.
Honestly, some people will be on my bitcointalk banlist tomorrow.
You did steal it, stealing is taking without asking, which is what you did. You are justifying the theft because your mistake was paying out some people double for mining (apparently, this hasn't been proven). What you should have done is simply covered the costs of your mistake yourself. This is what a professional would have done. This is what anyone who wants to continue doing business does. An immature person with no business sense blames everyone else, steals their funds to cover their own loss and then attacks people who criticize their behavior. ie You. Rather than NICKSASA lose money for this mistake all the pool users do collectively. NICKSASA comes out on top for his mistake, the pool users don't. You are living in denial my friend. I don't even understand why you are STILL going on with this, i have already said i will put a page or so up for the people that got taken too much. Keep ignoring it and bashing me, we'll see where it gets you. I'm done.
|
|
|
Have I EVER denied it wasn't a problem caused by me ? No, I haven't. But you can't blame me for pointing out that nobody bothered to contact me in 2 days that they were being double paid. You're lucky that I'm not a total dick and just disappeared with the pool (that has happend before with ltc pools.).
Oh so this is why you are treating people with contempt. Because you actually "stuck around" and stole 25% instead of stealing 100% you feel like people owe you a bit of gratitude. Understood. Can we give Nicksasa some gratitude for only stealing 25% of the funds and sticking around? People? Come on he's not like those other pool guys who just ran with everything. You are saying "stole" as it was for personal intentions... At that point i HAD no choice. I should've just kept it quiet and let the pool go total bankrupt then I guess. Honestly, some people will be on my bitcointalk banlist tomorrow.
|
|
|
Have I EVER denied it wasn't a problem caused by me ? No, I haven't. But you can't blame me for pointing out that nobody bothered to contact me in 2 days that they were being double paid. You're lucky that I'm not a total dick and just disappeared with the pool (that has happend before with ltc pools.).
And i'm not sure if i have said this before, but i have already put all of my personal ltc in it (2k).
|
|
|
If you are so interested anyway you should've read my latest posts in the main topic. But no, ofcourse you haven't. I'm really starting to wonder why I am even doing all this trouble anymore, if this is all I get back anyway. LTC community has gone downhill since the price went up, there's no doubt about that Why blame the litecoin community for your behavior? You made a mistake, now you're taking thousands of dollars away from other innocent people to cover *your* mistake. I don't know how much more simple this could be. You are living in denial about it. If you can't run a pool properly don't run one. Shrug, read my latest posts on the main topic. I can't make it simpler then that. I've already said i will put something up for users that got taken too much from. WHat's next ? You are going to say i shouldn't take anything from the miners that were paid double ?
|
|
|
If you are so interested anyway you should've read my latest posts in the main topic. But no, ofcourse you haven't. I'm really starting to wonder why I am even doing all this trouble anymore, if this is all I get back anyway. LTC community has gone downhill since the price went up, there's no doubt about that
|
|
|
Instead of acting like this, you should really read my latest posts on the main topic. And I burned myself ? It's the pool that is the victim. And the fact that nobody even bothered to tell me (out of the 2000 users, in 2 days) they were getting paid double ... some of you guys knew this was coming.Would you rather have the pool closing, just like MtRed and only get half of your funds ? Instead of taking funds from people who didn't double mine shouldn't you have taken it from those that did? And then covered the losses yourself for the mistake you made? There was no easy way to do that. And I should cover them ? Are you kidding ? Blame the +2000 users that did like their nose was bleeding.
|
|
|
1% fee instead ?? you were paid DOUBLE. 2 days and 14h for getwork miners, 14h for stratum miners.
My girlfriend barely mined at all during the the last few days on notroll.in. She unfortunately had also never cashed out. Which means that she had 35 LTC sitting in her account at notroll.in, which took her weeks to accumulate at 150 kH/sec. You decided to simply take 10 LTC out of her account, because you made a mistake with your site and burned yourself. She wasn't even mining during the overpayment period, and even if she was, she certainly doesn't mine 20 LTC in one day (the amount she would have had to have mined during a double payment period for this adjustment to have been "fair"). 10 LTC is almost 1/3 of all the LTC she has EVER mined, in the weeks she's been active on notroll.in! That is outright theft, and I cannot believe that there are still people mining in your pool after this. Instead of acting like this, you should really read my latest posts on the main topic. And I burned myself ? It's the pool that is the victim. And the fact that nobody even bothered to tell me (out of the 2000 users, in 2 days) they were getting paid double ... some of you guys knew this was coming.Would you rather have the pool closing, just like MtRed and only get half of your funds ?
|
|
|
what is the DIFF column in the notroll worker summary?
the difificulty of the blocks they are doing?
some are 32 sometimes though I see 128?
It shows you the difficulty the pool set (vardiff, min is 32) for the last share you submitted.
|
|
|
1% fee instead ?? you were paid DOUBLE. 2 days and 14h for getwork miners, 14h for stratum miners.
|
|
|
To everyone that is sure that they lost too much, I will put up something (a page, or pm's, i'm not sure yet.) so i can look into it. I know it wasn't fair to everyone but i had to take immediate action.
It's sad to see that even after 2 days nobody even thought of telling me. I really thought the LTC community was more mature then this. (And as stated before by MANY pools, pools are NOT a bank.)
Nick, I'm just trying to calculate exactly how much extra does not belong to me. "Before you flip out, let me explain this. On 7/04/2013-8/04/2013 getwork miners were paid DOUBLE. Then since 14h ago EVERYONE was paid double. Ofcourse i HAD to correct this. This was also the reason the hot wallet dried up while i was away (and i still am, btw)." so if I'm using stratum, then mines is just the 14h part correct? Yes, around 14h.
|
|
|
To everyone that is sure that they lost too much, I will put up something (a page, or pm's, i'm not sure yet.) so i can look into it. I know it wasn't fair to everyone but i had to take immediate action.
It's sad to see that even after 2 days nobody even thought of telling me. I really thought the LTC community was more mature then this. (And as stated before by MANY pools, pools are NOT a bank.)
|
|
|
|