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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First zero block - where did it come from ? on: May 10, 2011, 06:08:19 PM
I understand that the genisis block was created by Satoshi but what about the 2nd block? if Satoshi never spent any of the first coins what was the inputs for the 2nd block  Huh I thought we where hashing transaction data but the first 10 blocks where not involved in any transactions.
in fact what was the first block to be spent?

Transactions are only verified, they aren't required to hash a block. It's entirely possible to mine blocks without any transactions in them.

if you are right - it looks like if we  just imagined,drew ( somewhere in database on a server) some symbols  and called them 'coins' with fixed amount of them,for example 21M , and said that these symbols could cost smth and began trade them

or for example we could take 1 paypal usd or 1 libertyreserve usd (no matter what exactly, even pixel or some bits or smth else digital) and agreed they could cost 0.1 or 10 or 100 real USD etc and that there couldn't be more then 21M of them

In comparison with Bitcoin, Bitcoin network only guarantee  protection from printing new coins by somebody except bitcoin users , final amount 21M  and absence of central authority issues new money

and the question is where do all the blocks, coins take value from ?

2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First zero block - where did it come from ? on: May 10, 2011, 05:36:59 PM

Transactions are only verified, they aren't required to hash a block. It's entirely possible to mine blocks without any transactions in them.

could you please explain how it could be  possible to mine blocks without any transaction in them ?
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First zero block - where did it come from ? on: May 10, 2011, 05:34:07 PM
if genesis block was created by Satoshi it cost nothing or how ?
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First zero block - where did it come from ? on: May 10, 2011, 10:23:53 AM
1st, 2nd, 3rd etc first blocks (at least 10 first blocks, maybe more , i checked only first 10)   were not involved in any transactions - so it's not clear who created them and what the first spend was
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First zero block - where did it come from ? on: May 10, 2011, 10:16:37 AM
to deadlizard

right, if first block was created by Satoshi I think it means it was created from air, practically like any other currency in the world is printed

 
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First zero block - where did it come from ? on: May 10, 2011, 10:13:29 AM

I understand that technically it's very easy to code not to mind it but I mean about Bitcoin concept where each block is generated only by doing some calculation ('mining')

Who and how mined the first zero block ? Did it appeared from nowhere ? from air ? or from where ? - I don't understand exactly this point
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / First zero block - where did it come from ? on: May 10, 2011, 09:52:41 AM
Could somebody please explain me the following questions

When looking at http://blockexplorer.com/b/0 you can see there is no field 'Previous block' in the zero block like any other block has

Where did the first zero block  come from ?

I mean how first 50 coins (first block number 0 ) appeared in the circulation in the system while form the beginning of the system there were only users with zero balances in the system and nobody could make any transaction because everybody has 0 in the balances?

Who did emission of those first 50 coins in the system ?

Correct me please if I misunderstand somewhere in my thoughts
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