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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 10, 2017, 05:09:55 AM
Who's idea was it to release token when alts are doing bad...
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 08:28:00 PM
Brah I am invested. I am not trying to FUD. But when I see B.S. I call it out. The team has no provided a clear and adequate response as to why this "private deal" was not taken from the proper allocation instead from the crowdsale and had no trails since it was not recorded. ALL TO FKING SHADY. I am getting out as soon as it hits the market.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 08:46:13 AM
We been literally lied to. 80~ million were not available to public during pre-ico crowd sale. Only 60~ million. Now who owns the other 20~ million worth of coins. Private investors ya say... NDA non-disclosure. Can't say! FK ME. As an accounting business with this ethics/morals and working is a middle finger to ya face.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 08:27:12 AM
Typical of bad company that can't deliver on promises... no response from the CEO or team. Once they are done with ICO and got their money. It's goodbye community. Unlike popolous, the owner steve actually replies on forums and telegram on criticism and such.

Calm it down with your fud newbie account only just created and only comments are fud on this project, clearly you did not get in on the ico and trying to drivebprices down.

Lol. Rather have an honest team/company to begin with. Just pisses me off, how they played us literally last minute when ICO opened and didn't clarify the situation that is 26 million coins were not going to be for sale to the public and have been given to "private partners". BS. And with no record. As an accounting company. WTF. Making it seem that it was sold during the pre-ico to public crowd.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 08:16:17 AM
Typical of bad company that can't deliver on promises... no response from the CEO or team. Once they are done with ICO and got their money. It's goodbye community. Unlike popolous, the owner steve actually replies on forums and telegram on criticism and such.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 07:33:51 AM
First, I wanna say that I do really appreciate @Nick and @Yohan for being willing to answer questions even when you’ve already been asked the same thing over and over every single day. And you have been very accommodating to the communities needs. Mucho appreciated.

Now onto issues:

I got a bonus and I wasn't even expecting one. Cool. Unfortunately, what isn’t cool, is the Paypie team said one thing and did another. Bonuses were supposed to go to the smaller contributors. But that's not what happened.  The payee team did not release the bonus structure openly for everyone to review until right before the pre-sale started. At the time, I honestly didn’t think much about until now. Now when I really stop and think about it everything, it all seems kind of shady how this whole thing has played out.

So lets review:

This morning a email was sent out right before the crowdsale with this Note attached to the bottom:


“Note: we have signed a deal with a strategic partner for contributing to the platform's development in a long term commitment. The terms of the agreement are confidential and this partnership is one of the most valuable things that could have happened for the platform's progress. We just wanted to share that bit with the community before the pre-sale. Future looks bright!”



According to the white paper, 82,500,500 PPP tokens would be available for the crowdsale.

1ETH = 909 PPP tokens(0.0011 ETH = 1 PPP)


Smart Contract? Yes

82,500,000 PPP Max Hard cap for Crowdsale

4,500,000  PPP soft cap minimum req for crowdsale

27,500,000 PPP for Team and Advisors

55,000,000 PPP for Industry Reserve to help develop partnerships and future acquisitions to become a dominant market leader.

Accoring the the contract ETH provided to us today (0xf8A15b1540d5f9D002D9cCb7FD1F23E795c2859d) = (0xF821Fd99BCA2111327b6a411C90BE49dcf78CE0f)


61,082 ETH was contributed publicly which means 55,523,538 PPP tokens were bought publicly.

This leave 26,976, 462 tokens left that are unaccounted for.


Hypothetically, If everyone had gotten a bonus of 5%(we all know that didn’t happen) then that would then give contributors as a whole 1,348,823 PPP tokens. But that still would leave 25,627,639 PPP tokens left.

This begs the question, why wasn’t this transaction or set of transactions of roughly 26,976,62 PPP tokens recorded on the blockchain at the same time as and under the same contract address as the rest of the crowd sale?? And if this was a strategic partnership deal as stated in the thank you email this morning, then why didn’t the paypie team  use the INDUSTRY RESERVE tokens of 55,000,000 to make this deal instead of taking from the crowdsale AND also at the same time renege on a earlier agreement of giving smaller donors a bonus?Huh The argument that giving everyone a bonus is not really a bonus is very shallow argument and a slap in the face to small investors. Because if going off of that logic, then I see no reason why Paypie shouldn’t have been able to stick to the original agreement which gave the smaller donors the bonus and none for the larger donors.
 
Also why did you feel that you had to make a SECRET NDA deal with business individuals to advance the company along?  How are we to trust that you have investors and also future customer’s  best interest at heart when nothing about the deal has been disclosed???   How is anyone supposed to be okay with that and be expected to just blindly trust you? This is a new era guys and what would have been acceptable in the old fiat, large corporation way of doing business, is NOT okay in the blockchain era. Blockchain requires transparency and the was the absolute opposite.

This wasn’t in the white paper guys and you need to make it right.

Until they give a proper response. I'm advising everyone to raise awareness.

-- If these unaccounted and missing coins were for private investors for partnership, why was it not allocated to the "partnership portion"?
-- Why were they give special limits more than the max agreement of 75 eth?
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 06:14:41 AM
lol troll.. but an honest troll.. most likely the truth.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 04:15:58 AM
Their answer will be NDA can't talk about it. But if they cant give a simple answer as to why the partnership with such a huge amount of ppp missing was not put in the allocation for deals/partnership then it is obvious that this is an inside job that is meant that the missing tolkens is not meant to be locked down. Let's just hope we get out before the dump.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 03:58:32 AM
NDA agreement, who the fuck does that.. especially if the company think it is a good partnership that would benefit the entire project. It would make 100% that if it was a private deal then it would been serperate from the crowdsale portion and be in the partnership portion. HUGE FUCKING RED FLAG.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 03:44:01 AM
First, I wanna say that I do really appreciate @Nick and @Yohan for being willing to answer questions even when you’ve already been asked the same thing over and over every single day. And you have been very accommodating to the communities needs. Mucho appreciated.

Now onto issues:

I got a bonus and I wasn't even expecting one. Cool. Unfortunately, what isn’t cool, is the Paypie team said one thing and did another. Bonuses were supposed to go to the smaller contributors. But that's not what happened.  The payee team did not release the bonus structure openly for everyone to review until right before the pre-sale started. At the time, I honestly didn’t think much about until now. Now when I really stop and think about it everything, it all seems kind of shady how this whole thing has played out.

So lets review:

This morning a email was sent out right before the crowdsale with this Note attached to the bottom:


“Note: we have signed a deal with a strategic partner for contributing to the platform's development in a long term commitment. The terms of the agreement are confidential and this partnership is one of the most valuable things that could have happened for the platform's progress. We just wanted to share that bit with the community before the pre-sale. Future looks bright!”



According to the white paper, 82,500,500 PPP tokens would be available for the crowdsale.

1ETH = 909 PPP tokens(0.0011 ETH = 1 PPP)


Smart Contract? Yes

82,500,000 PPP Max Hard cap for Crowdsale

4,500,000  PPP soft cap minimum req for crowdsale

27,500,000 PPP for Team and Advisors

55,000,000 PPP for Industry Reserve to help develop partnerships and future acquisitions to become a dominant market leader.

Accoring the the contract ETH provided to us today (0xf8A15b1540d5f9D002D9cCb7FD1F23E795c2859d) = (0xF821Fd99BCA2111327b6a411C90BE49dcf78CE0f)


61,082 ETH was contributed publicly which means 55,523,538 PPP tokens were bought publicly.

This leave 26,976, 462 tokens left that are unaccounted for.


Hypothetically, If everyone had gotten a bonus of 5%(we all know that didn’t happen) then that would then give contributors as a whole 1,348,823 PPP tokens. But that still would leave 25,627,639 PPP tokens left.

This begs the question, why wasn’t this transaction or set of transactions of roughly 26,976,62 PPP tokens recorded on the blockchain at the same time as and under the same contract address as the rest of the crowd sale?? And if this was a strategic partnership deal as stated in the thank you email this morning, then why didn’t the paypie team  use the INDUSTRY RESERVE tokens of 55,000,000 to make this deal instead of taking from the crowdsale AND also at the same time renege on a earlier agreement of giving smaller donors a bonus?Huh The argument that giving everyone a bonus is not really a bonus is very shallow argument and a slap in the face to small investors. Because if going off of that logic, then I see no reason why Paypie shouldn’t have been able to stick to the original agreement which gave the smaller donors the bonus and none for the larger donors.
 
Also why did you feel that you had to make a SECRET NDA deal with business individuals to advance the company along?  How are we to trust that you have investors and also future customer’s  best interest at heart when nothing about the deal has been disclosed???   How is anyone supposed to be okay with that and be expected to just blindly trust you? This is a new era guys and what would have been acceptable in the old fiat, large corporation way of doing business, is NOT okay in the blockchain era. Blockchain requires transparency and the was the absolute opposite.

This wasn’t in the white paper guys and you need to make it right.

Can more people raise this in their telegram. I was banned not for this reason but another. We need to ask them about this concerning issue.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 03:36:20 AM
It makes no sense for you as an investor to lie. They even banned me from asking or debating simple things. As an investor i think there will be a big dump when this comes out. Insiders must got 1/10 of price of free perhaps.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 03:29:32 AM
They need to clarify the situation with the private investor... that is why it sold out incredibly fast in less than 1 hour. Very alarming.

They might. but i don't care what liars say

Why would they try to set u up though? I guess they don't want you to raise awareness to the fishy private investor. If what you say is true, that they are lying and have set you up, my faith in this project has gone down hill. Very fishy inside investors.

They should of outlined clearly in their white paper that a portion should be reserve for partnership and what not.. But they do it last minute is very concerning. When they do it last minute we cannot ask question before the ICO and things end eruptly. We should raise awareness to the shadiness.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 03:13:28 AM
They need to clarify the situation with the private investor... that is why it sold out incredibly fast in less than 1 hour. Very alarming.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 09, 2017, 03:07:05 AM
I was also banned for comparing populous and paypie.. the mods on telegram need to chill the fuck out. we trying to get information from people.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 [ANN][ICO] PAYPIE 🔥🔥🔥 ALL TOKENS SOLD OUT! THANK YOU! on: October 08, 2017, 07:42:00 PM
Will there be a problem? I sent multiple transactions funds from a single MEW address at different times, since I had to get funds from different places and feared that I would missed out. The total amount is less than 75.
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