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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: First day mining help on: May 20, 2013, 09:39:06 PM
Do not orded from BFL. Even a snail could ship the units faster than them, do not expect your order to arrive before Christmas. Consider buying gpus instead, but make sure you do research for some hours before you invest.

So no real way to get an ASIC machine right now?
2  Other / Beginners & Help / First day mining help on: May 20, 2013, 09:01:23 PM
I just started today and I am using Guiminer and I joined a pool called BTC Guild.  I am just using a laptop that I use for gaming with a GeForce 445m graphics card.  I can tell this is worthless as it takes hours to get .0000001 BTC. On one of the guild pages it shows who got the most share for each shift and I get 2-10 while others get millions.  How do they do it, and what, if anything can I do to increase my output to actually get something someday.  I was also wondering what people thought of the $279 5Gh/s box from butterfly labs.  How long after you order do you get it and is it worth it?  At current prices, you only need 3 bitcoins to make back your money.

I guess my question is....how do you do this effectively, or am I just late to the party and there is nothing left to do?

Thanks
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